Is Roman Catholicism Evil?

[TMS]

Only God is Good, we are all evil by nature, but the thing that makes the difference is who we give control to. Satan or Jesus, one or the other, there is no middle ground. The Catholic Church teaches evil traditions that are pagan by nature. Some people in the Catholic Church are ignorant to the truth and God will judge them accordingly. But the church teachings are evil and pride stops them from changing. For example they believe they are higher, or greater then the Bible.
Isa_8:20 To the law and to the testimony: if they speak not according to this word, it is because there is no light in them.
They removed the the 2nd commandment from the Ten.
Exo 20:4 Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image,... Exo 20:5 Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them,....

 

[beta]

I was read from the testimony of ex Jesuit Dr Alberto rivera about sex s andal in vatican, they are satanic and make sex party for one of their ritual to gain more power require by lucifer, they are lucifer worshiper, than people accused Dr Alberto AS alias.

But, this link below prove Alberto not Lie, vatican is.

this well known news paper say there is sex party in the vatican that kill a pretty teens, happen in the 80'

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wo...apped-for-sex-parties-for-Vatican-police.html

it is prove that catholic is satanic religion.

happen again last year


Vatican police raid drug-fueled gay orgy at top priest's apartment* - NY Daily News

It seems you know of all this evil in the vatican yet you are happy to follow their sunday-resurrected jesus whom they introduced to this world....and must surely approve of what they are doing.
You happy with this jesus ? or any other of the many false ones who roam christianity ? Just where do you think these MANY false christs are if not in the christian religion ?
I am not making this up...JESUS said it Mat 24. Did He lie ?
There is only ONE TRUE JESUS and everybody fights AGAINST HIM if they are teaching and preaching in another's name...SUNDAY resurrected jesus is another !

 

[oldethennew]

"God is King of Heaven. He chose Mary to give birth to His only begotten Son, Jesus. Historically, the woman chosen by a king to give birth to his acknowledged son is the queen, according to royal hierarchy. And the Queen is always subordinate to the King."

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God refers to 'New Jerusalem' as 'the mother of us all', not the 'queen of us all'...

 

[garee]

It seems you know of all this evil in the vatican yet you are happy to follow their sunday-resurrected jesus whom they introduced to this world....and must surely approve of what they are doing.
You happy with this jesus ? or any other of the many false ones who roam christianity ? Just where do you think these MANY false christs are if not in the christian religion ?
I am not making this up...JESUS said it Mat 24. Did He lie ?
There is only ONE TRUE JESUS and everybody fights AGAINST HIM if they are teaching and preaching in another's name...SUNDAY resurrected jesus is another !

Christian is the new name God named his bride the church in the book of Acts . Catholicism and not Christianity is what the Catholics serve.

 

[Endoscopy]

Catholic worship Lucifer.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AHyY0PV2iVU

What a piece of garbage. When it attacked Free Masons I knew this. My father was in it and I became part of the youth in DeMolay. There are 2 branches, Christian and practicing Jew. To become a member you are supposed to be one or the other. They are supposed to be members of a church or temple. Practing Satanism is pure rubbish.

 

[Jackson123]

It seems you know of all this evil in the vatican yet you are happy to follow their sunday-resurrected jesus whom they introduced to this world....and must surely approve of what they are doing.
You happy with this jesus ? or any other of the many false ones who roam christianity ? Just where do you think these MANY false christs are if not in the christian religion ?
I am not making this up...JESUS said it Mat 24. Did He lie ?
There is only ONE TRUE JESUS and everybody fights AGAINST HIM if they are teaching and preaching in another's name...SUNDAY resurrected jesus is another !

Beta, I am not follow catholic, I am following Jesus, but I don't see any urgency about what day Jesus resurect in relation to salvation, like I was say, Jesus focus oN love, in matt 25 about last judgement. But yes catholic worship Lucifer.

 

[Jackson123]

What a piece of garbage. When it attacked Free Masons I knew this. My father was in it and I became part of the youth in DeMolay. There are 2 branches, Christian and practicing Jew. To become a member you are supposed to be one or the other. They are supposed to be members of a church or temple. Practing Satanism is pure rubbish.

I don't get your point, so you don't believe catholic worship Lucifer?

 

[Endoscopy]

I don't get your point, so you don't believe catholic worship Lucifer?

I stated before in a group I attended a Catholic Church and lo and behold the gospel was preached in the mass. I went to South Africa and was taken to the Catholic Church the agent there went to. The church service was informal like a Baptist Church is here. Again the gospel was preached. I go by the evidence of what I saw and heard!!!

On the other hand all 7 sisters of the large protestant denominations have been taken over by secular ministers. Gary North wrote a book Crossed Fingers that documented the takeover of the Presbyterian USA in 1932.

Sub denominations of them still preach the gospel.

 

[Jackson123]

I stated before in a group I attended a Catholic Church and lo and behold the gospel was preached in the mass. I went to South Africa and was taken to the Catholic Church the agent there went to. The church service was informal like a Baptist Church is here. Again the gospel was preached. I go by the evidence of what I saw and heard!!!

On the other hand all 7 sisters of the large protestant denominations have been taken over by secular ministers. Gary North wrote a book Crossed Fingers that documented the takeover of the Presbyterian USA in 1932.

Sub denominations of them still preach the gospel.

i hear that regular member doesn't know that catholic worship Lucifer. Like freemason, low level member doesn't know that they worship Lucifer, but bishop and know what going oN. Alberto rivera say, sex party ritual is happen once a year. They do It secretly, some time accidently there is casualty and leak d to the media, but most Happen in secret.
vatican want take over the world, vatican behind new world order. Some say Jesuit create communist, start with Paraguay reduction for 150 years, so I believe antichrist is pope.

The Jesuit Continiuum - the Systems, Memes and History: Jesuit origins of Communism - Part 1

 

[Endoscopy]

i hear that regular member doesn't know that catholic worship Lucifer. Like freemason, low level member doesn't know that they worship Lucifer, but bishop and know what going oN. Alberto rivera say, sex party ritual is happen once a year. They do It secretly, some time accidently there is casualty and leak d to the media, but most Happen in secret.
vatican want take over the world, vatican behind new world order. Some say Jesuit create communist, start with Paraguay reduction for 150 years, so I believe antichrist is pope.

The Jesuit Continiuum - the Systems, Memes and History: Jesuit origins of Communism - Part 1

Harping on Catholics when the 7 sisters of the big protestant denominations went secular. Like Jesus said get the log out of your eye before taking the splinter out of another's eye. A little less than half of the population go to church Only a splinter of those going to church hear the gospel message. That is the huge issue instead of the Catholic Church.

 

[garee]

I stated before in a group I attended a Catholic Church and lo and behold the gospel was preached in the mass. I went to South Africa and was taken to the Catholic Church the agent there went to. The church service was informal like a Baptist Church is here. Again the gospel was preached. I go by the evidence of what I saw and heard!!!

On the other hand all 7 sisters of the large protestant denominations have been taken over by secular ministers. Gary North wrote a book Crossed Fingers that documented the takeover of the Presbyterian USA in 1932.

Sub denominations of them still preach the gospel.

They might preach a gospel if you could call it that. but must serve another gospel other than the one in respect of to all things that are written in the law and the prophets(sola scriptura) the true gospel .There false gospel rising above all things written as a tool for lording it over other men's faith , We are commanded to seek the approval of God not seen, the eternal not men seen, the temporal . In the end of the matter no faith.


They widen the authority of the true gospel by adding the oral traditions of the fathers called a law of the fathers or a law of men.

Therefore making the true gospel without effect.

 

[Brian_Graham]

Catholic worship Lucifer.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AHyY0PV2iVU

Ahhh, Jackson123. Spoken like someone who truly loves conspiracy theories and will accept as fact anything you are told, just so long as it criticizes the Catholic Church. Especially if it means you do not have to learn or make any effort at understanding Hebrew, Greek or Latin. I find it quite interesting that you contend "Catholics worship Lucifer," when you have a total of no knowledge about what "lucifer" actually means.

The word lucifer is a Latin term derived from lux ("light") and ferre ("to bring"). It was originally used to refer to the planet Venus (the "Morning Star"). In the Bible, the Hebrew term hēylēl (used only in Isaiah 14:12) for "day-star, son of the morning" was originally translated in the Catholic Bible (i.e., the Vulgate) using the Latin "lucifer."

It is popularly thought that the word "lucifer" is actually a proper name -- for Satan, no less. This is because early biblical commentators like St. Jerome saw the passage in Isaiah as a description of the fall of Satan ("Lucifer" allegedly being Satan’s name before he rebelled against God). Centuries later, the Latin word lucifer was left as is by the translators of the King James Bible (only in Isaiah, even though the Vulgate uses the word lucifer elsewhere -- e.g., Job 11:17 and 38:32; Psalms 109:3; and Ecclesiastes 50:6).

Jesus is described as the "morning star" (phosphorus) in 2 Peter 1:19. This kind of imagery is used often of the Messiah in the New Testament (e.g. Matthew 4:16; Luke 1:76-79; and John 1:7-9) and may hearken back to Old Testament descriptions of the Messiah (e.g. Numbers 24:17; Isaiah 9:2, 60:1-2; and Mal. 4:2). Jesus is also called the "bright morning star" (using different Greek terms than 2 Peter 1:19) in Revelation 22:16. The underlying Greek terms are translated in Latin as "lucifer."

The fact that the Latin Bible uses the word "lucifer" not in reference to Satan is easily established by a search on this Protestant site: < https://www.biblegateway.com/quicksearch/?quicksearch=lucifer&qs_version=VULGATE >.

So, according to the Bible, "lucifer" is Jesus -- the Morning Star! In short, it is nothing less than slander to suggest, due to your own lack of biblical knowledge and languages, that the Catholic Church worships Satan.

 

[Jackson123]

Harping on Catholics when the 7 sisters of the big protestant denominations went secular. Like Jesus said get the log out of your eye before taking the splinter out of another's eye. A little less than half of the population go to church Only a splinter of those going to church hear the gospel message. That is the huge issue instead of the Catholic Church.

I am not sprinter out of another eye, I try to tell what I read and seem trust worthy, to make people aware that catholic worship Lucifer.

What do you mean by sprinter out another' eye?

because you think I am criticized catholic?

What about yourself, don't you criticized me? It mean you do splinter my eye, and not aware.

anyway to me enthrone Lucifer is worship Lucifer, worship idol is also mean worship Lucifer, and Christian not worship idol.

secretly catholic enthrone Lucifer, i believe, because openly they worship idol.


you may believe worship idol doesn't worship Lucifer, but I don't see the different.

 

[Jackson123]

Ahhh, Jackson123. Spoken like someone who truly loves conspiracy theories and will accept as fact anything you are told, just so long as it criticizes the Catholic Church. Especially if it means you do not have to learn or make any effort at understanding Hebrew, Greek or Latin. I find it quite interesting that you contend "Catholics worship Lucifer," when you have a total of no knowledge about what "lucifer" actually means.

The word lucifer is a Latin term derived from lux ("light") and ferre ("to bring"). It was originally used to refer to the planet Venus (the "Morning Star"). In the Bible, the Hebrew term hēylēl (used only in Isaiah 14:12) for "day-star, son of the morning" was originally translated in the Catholic Bible (i.e., the Vulgate) using the Latin "lucifer."

It is popularly thought that the word "lucifer" is actually a proper name -- for Satan, no less. This is because early biblical commentators like St. Jerome saw the passage in Isaiah as a description of the fall of Satan ("Lucifer" allegedly being Satan’s name before he rebelled against God). Centuries later, the Latin word lucifer was left as is by the translators of the King James Bible (only in Isaiah, even though the Vulgate uses the word lucifer elsewhere -- e.g., Job 11:17 and 38:32; Psalms 109:3; and Ecclesiastes 50:6).

Jesus is described as the "morning star" (phosphorus) in 2 Peter 1:19. This kind of imagery is used often of the Messiah in the New Testament (e.g. Matthew 4:16; Luke 1:76-79; and John 1:7-9) and may hearken back to Old Testament descriptions of the Messiah (e.g. Numbers 24:17; Isaiah 9:2, 60:1-2; and Mal. 4:2). Jesus is also called the "bright morning star" (using different Greek terms than 2 Peter 1:19) in Revelation 22:16. The underlying Greek terms are translated in Latin as "lucifer."

The fact that the Latin Bible uses the word "lucifer" not in reference to Satan is easily established by a search on this Protestant site: < https://www.biblegateway.com/quicksearch/?quicksearch=lucifer&qs_version=VULGATE >.

So, according to the Bible, "lucifer" is Jesus -- the Morning Star! In short, it is nothing less than slander to suggest, due to your own lack of biblical knowledge and languages, that the Catholic Church worships Satan.

So you believe in 1963 vatican enthrone Lucifer or Jesus AS a King?

Jesus has been a King forever, why not enthrone 2000 years ago, why not do It openly.

Why I believe catholic worship Lucifer? Another consideration is the way they worship Idol, tell that yes they are luciferian.

look what they believe, wear scapula when one die will go to heaven, this is equate Jesus AS savior to $ 10 scapula, Lucifer behind this doctrine, how about inquisition, all point out to Lucifer.

 

[Jackson123]

Ahhh, Jackson123. Spoken like someone who truly loves conspiracy theories and will accept as fact anything you are told, just so long as it criticizes the Catholic Church. Especially if it means you do not have to learn or make any effort at understanding Hebrew, Greek or Latin. I find it quite interesting that you contend "Catholics worship Lucifer," when you have a total of no knowledge about what "lucifer" actually means.

The word lucifer is a Latin term derived from lux ("light") and ferre ("to bring"). It was originally used to refer to the planet Venus (the "Morning Star"). In the Bible, the Hebrew term hēylēl (used only in Isaiah 14:12) for "day-star, son of the morning" was originally translated in the Catholic Bible (i.e., the Vulgate) using the Latin "lucifer."

It is popularly thought that the word "lucifer" is actually a proper name -- for Satan, no less. This is because early biblical commentators like St. Jerome saw the passage in Isaiah as a description of the fall of Satan ("Lucifer" allegedly being Satan’s name before he rebelled against God). Centuries later, the Latin word lucifer was left as is by the translators of the King James Bible (only in Isaiah, even though the Vulgate uses the word lucifer elsewhere -- e.g., Job 11:17 and 38:32; Psalms 109:3; and Ecclesiastes 50:6).

Jesus is described as the "morning star" (phosphorus) in 2 Peter 1:19. This kind of imagery is used often of the Messiah in the New Testament (e.g. Matthew 4:16; Luke 1:76-79; and John 1:7-9) and may hearken back to Old Testament descriptions of the Messiah (e.g. Numbers 24:17; Isaiah 9:2, 60:1-2; and Mal. 4:2). Jesus is also called the "bright morning star" (using different Greek terms than 2 Peter 1:19) in Revelation 22:16. The underlying Greek terms are translated in Latin as "lucifer."

The fact that the Latin Bible uses the word "lucifer" not in reference to Satan is easily established by a search on this Protestant site: < https://www.biblegateway.com/quicksearch/?quicksearch=lucifer&qs_version=VULGATE >.

So, according to the Bible, "lucifer" is Jesus -- the Morning Star! In short, it is nothing less than slander to suggest, due to your own lack of biblical knowledge and languages, that the Catholic Church worships Satan.

Seem to me when catholic pray in public/ opnenly It say in in the name of Fathe, Son and Holy Spirit, you say Lucifer mean Jesus, why not pray in the name of Lucifer?

 

[Brian_Graham]

Seem to me when catholic pray in public/ opnenly It say in in the name of Fathe, Son and Holy Spirit, you say Lucifer mean Jesus, why not pray in the name of Lucifer?

"Lucifer" is not a proper name, so it would only have an uppercase "L" when used at the beginning of a sentence. Therefore, one would not pray to lucifer any more than one would pray to "tree" or "moon." I said, quite specifically, that "lucifer" means "the morning star," and that the Bible describes Jesus in the verses I cited as the "morning star." Or do you deny the Bible? I don't say that "lucifer means Jesus."

But you have chosen to believe that the Catholic Church worships Satan, and that it is evil. So I see no point in continuing further since you appear to have no desire or interest in discussing anything -- even when presented with evidence and citations. Nor do you provide anything from a single credible source to support your statements. That goes against everything I've been taught in academic theological analysis. Your sole focus throughout has been to proselytise. Fortunately, your view is part of an extremely tiny minority.

 

[CS1]

people in glass houses should not throw stones LOL
the cathloic church is moving in the same direction as many mainline evangelicial churches . many here pervert the love of God to be acceptance of many things God said HE would NOT Bless. And they confess Jesus as Lord.

 

[AngelFrog]

Christian is the new name God named his bride the church in the book of Acts . Catholicism and not Christianity is what the Catholics serve.

The Catholics I've met, to be clear, those who state they are Roman Catholic, when asked if they are Christian and without fail, always answer me with, I'm Catholic.

I haven't been aboard in awhile so I don't know the answer to this however, are there Catholic's on this site? Would this be offending?

For me in what I've seen of the practice, I think Catholicism is Roman Pagan faith. Not anything to do with Christ. Is it evil? Well, the RCC church history is no ball of sunshine that's for sure. However, can we honestly say the Protestant history is ?
Evil is a strong word. I'd say the RCC is false when it is thought to have anything to do with Christ. Besides, shouldn't it be recognized by the name it gives itself to answer the question of, is it the true practice of Christ and his teachings or good news?

Roman
Catholic
Church

No.

 

[Pemican]

Catholicism teaches many false concepts and false interpretations of the scripture. Do I believe that at least some Catholics are saved? Yes I do. It depends on whether they put their faith in the person and work of Christ. Some do, but some are going through the rituals like robots hoping that if they go to mass now and then, go to confession now and then, and do a few good works now and then they will avoid hell. I'm not sure that some of them believe in anything except hell, which scares them into at least going through their religious activities. A sad and way to live. I use to try and explain to a Catholic roommate of mine that salvation is by the grace of God, and he would laugh and say, "Oh no! You have to do good works.!" God's grace and the work of Christ on the cross wasn't enough, God needs our help apparently. I do hope he is saved. He was steeped in Catholicism since a child.

 

[Jackson123]

"Lucifer" is not a proper name, so it would only have an uppercase "L" when used at the beginning of a sentence. Therefore, one would not pray to lucifer any more than one would pray to "tree" or "moon." I said, quite specifically, that "lucifer" means "the morning star," and that the Bible describes Jesus in the verses I cited as the "morning star." Or do you deny the Bible? I don't say that "lucifer means Jesus."

But you have chosen to believe that the Catholic Church worships Satan, and that it is evil. So I see no point in continuing further since you appear to have no desire or interest in discussing anything -- even when presented with evidence and citations. Nor do you provide anything from a single credible source to support your statements. That goes against everything I've been taught in academic theological analysis. Your sole focus throughout has been to proselytise. Fortunately, your view is part of an extremely tiny minority.

you Said Lucifer is not proper name, why vatican enthrone Lucifer?

because vatican like improper name?. My Dear, vatican did enthrone Lucifer, mean satan, not Jesus.

look what they believe, AS a clue. they believe in moslim God, scapula AS a savior etc.