Is Socialism biblical?
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... not sure what that has to do with people who work hard getting looked over...
I suggest you read the whole thread again... we are not talking about those who don't want to work, we're talking about the stereotypes that anyone who draws assistance doesn't want to. In reality, MANY who draw assistance DOES work, including myself, when I was on assistance. We talking about how painting with a broad brush isn't going to change anything and it isn't going to motivate anyone.
Unless the objective is to just gripe about how things are instead of looking for solutions, then it's not going to affect anyone and things will continue as they are. If that's what you want, fine, but that's precisely the result of generalizations and no talking about the real issues.
I suggest you read the whole thread again... we are not talking about those who don't want to work, we're talking about the stereotypes that anyone who draws assistance doesn't want to. In reality, MANY who draw assistance DOES work, including myself, when I was on assistance. We talking about how painting with a broad brush isn't going to change anything and it isn't going to motivate anyone.
Unless the objective is to just gripe about how things are instead of looking for solutions, then it's not going to affect anyone and things will continue as they are. If that's what you want, fine, but that's precisely the result of generalizations and no talking about the real issues.
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I'll take a look.
*sigh* Well, at least you INITIALLY gave me credit, but it too much or too little, I guess I can appreciate that, lol
Appearance, fairness in the workforce, I was more talking about personality than I was about physical appearance... that's why I was confused. Sure, discrimination on appearance is a problem, and it goes WAY back in humanity... but that's not what I was talking about.
For people who naturally give off an air of friendliness, better at hiding their frustrations from customers... those advancing ahead of me always made me a little resentful because TO ME, keeping the lobby clean, presenting a good product via cooking, precision in taking orders - these take more skill, relatively, and take more time and effort to perfect. I always felt it was unfair that someone who can just talk better and appear more friendly got ahead of me, while on my knees, I'm doing all the grunt work no one else wanted to do.
Oh I got praised, believe you me... but this motivates you only so long. Just like the worker that came in early, I was discontent because of my work portionally to the people who got hired AFTER me, yet in only a fraction of the time I'd been there is already climbing the ladder. And I know I have to look at myself, as well, on that issue.
But the bottom line to it all is that people don't want to work because there is no financial incentive to. The gov prevents savings for the poor, and the corporate businesses prevents mobility. After a while, you get discouraged and just quit.
Maybe you don't. Maybe you have a stronger will and would scrape by for the principle of the matter. And I'm not saying living on a check, making no effort is ok... I'm saying I understand why people do, that's all. Many people who settle on welfare didn't do so thinking "I'm going to take advantage of taxes and do whatever I want"... they do so thinking "I can't find no other way to pay my bills." It's a very real problem. The dollar has lost it's purchasing power, wages haven't kept up with inflation, we are not the same economy we were 30 years ago for people to easily climb out of poverty.
*sigh* Well, at least you INITIALLY gave me credit, but it too much or too little, I guess I can appreciate that, lol
Appearance, fairness in the workforce, I was more talking about personality than I was about physical appearance... that's why I was confused. Sure, discrimination on appearance is a problem, and it goes WAY back in humanity... but that's not what I was talking about.
For people who naturally give off an air of friendliness, better at hiding their frustrations from customers... those advancing ahead of me always made me a little resentful because TO ME, keeping the lobby clean, presenting a good product via cooking, precision in taking orders - these take more skill, relatively, and take more time and effort to perfect. I always felt it was unfair that someone who can just talk better and appear more friendly got ahead of me, while on my knees, I'm doing all the grunt work no one else wanted to do.
Oh I got praised, believe you me... but this motivates you only so long. Just like the worker that came in early, I was discontent because of my work portionally to the people who got hired AFTER me, yet in only a fraction of the time I'd been there is already climbing the ladder. And I know I have to look at myself, as well, on that issue.
But the bottom line to it all is that people don't want to work because there is no financial incentive to. The gov prevents savings for the poor, and the corporate businesses prevents mobility. After a while, you get discouraged and just quit.
Maybe you don't. Maybe you have a stronger will and would scrape by for the principle of the matter. And I'm not saying living on a check, making no effort is ok... I'm saying I understand why people do, that's all. Many people who settle on welfare didn't do so thinking "I'm going to take advantage of taxes and do whatever I want"... they do so thinking "I can't find no other way to pay my bills." It's a very real problem. The dollar has lost it's purchasing power, wages haven't kept up with inflation, we are not the same economy we were 30 years ago for people to easily climb out of poverty.
The most succinct way I think I can put everything jaybird, posthuman and I have been saying is this:
It's easy to judge someone for not climbing out of a hole you never fell into... or more so, it's easy to judge someone for not climbing out of a hole because YOU DID, not realizing your hole was not as deep as theirs.
It's easy to judge someone for not climbing out of a hole you never fell into... or more so, it's easy to judge someone for not climbing out of a hole because YOU DID, not realizing your hole was not as deep as theirs.
J
i agree about the government, but they are not stupid. they are fully capable of running these programs as they have done in the past, GI bill before it was rolled back, gov grants for poor kids that want to go to school, municipal power companies, etc. but they choose not to.
where can i find this place where these girls work, the ones with the big humpty dumpty's?
where can i find this place where these girls work, the ones with the big humpty dumpty's?
You don't manipulate millions to go to the polls, saying out of one end of their mouths that politicians are all the same, AND YET STILL going and voting... (It doesn't occur to anyone to "protest vote" which is perfectly legal). You don't convince millions of people you are liars by profession, YET THEY STILL VOTE, and be a stupid bunch of people. It takes a certain skill to manipulate the masses. (Having control of information, via TV and newspapers, is the Ace in the hole... it's no wonder they are trying to get control of internet traffic now, as well, calling it "fair" "net neutrality" and all this.)
this is an interesting website:
Government is Good - The Forgotten Achievements of Government
"Although conservatives portray government as incompetent, public sector programs have actually amassed an admirable record of success in a wide variety of policy areas."
Government is Good - The Forgotten Achievements of Government
"Although conservatives portray government as incompetent, public sector programs have actually amassed an admirable record of success in a wide variety of policy areas."
I read that here in the States, as you advance in career and start getting into higher positions and corporate positions, women who want a "cutting edge" should wear makeup... and they do better than women who don't DOING THE EXACT SAME THING, with the same skills etc etc. I also read an article about how body language, simple little quirks, can put your job in danger not even knowing it:
https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/9-tips-body-language-guarantees-you-get-job-ada-lehmann
Common Body Language Mistakes Employees Make - Business Insider
16 Body Language Mistakes to Avoid at the Workplace
Some of these things, I sympathize with. If you're talking to someone, it's rude to look at your phone. Period. But others, like hugging yourself, slouching, etc... what does this have to do with my productivity? Maybe I'm cold, or maybe I slouching is more comfortable for me so I work harder.
Moving up, or even keeping your job, has more to do with social savvy, ESP as you move up the ladder, than it does actual work you put into things. That's the perk of our consumer society. One person can do minimal work, with good social skills and behavioral cues, and move up, someone else can put out twice as much productivity, and get fired because they don't "connect" in just the "right way" with people.
Take the book "The Fine Art of Small Talk." She goes into having a step-by-step on how to look approachable in the workplace, and how to small talk. She expresses her own experience where she would work very hard, very competitive in output, BUT... she doesn't small talk with anyone. She doesn't make anyone feel fuzzies so over and over she was passed for promotions. Because like many introverts, social interaction is tiring and takes energy (yes it does, look it up, science on this), so she directs that energy to her work... but that doesn't pay in the long run. Working hard is nice but you have to network, too.
It REALLY is about who you know, not what you know or your skills. So when someone says "Learn a trade!" and "Work hard!" well, barring the COSTS to do so (resources needed for smooth dress and grooming and schooling), who's going to teach me how to have smooth body language and a natural disposition? I work on it with family and friends, and I know I REALLY need to work on it as I reenter the workforce. (I am currently working with Division of Rehab to target jobs right for me.) But me personally, I find interviews awkward, because I'm so focused on "looking personable" that my fears only propel my awkwardness.
As someone who struggles with social awkwardness, partly due to my environment growing up, partly personality, partly comfort... this scares me. Esp in more desk-type jobs, which I think I'm more suited for than customer service, I have to work twice as hard... not at ACTUAL work, but at my reputation.
It's not that I never smile, it's not that I'm not courteous to people. But it's really hard for me to "best bud" with people I don't know or just met, and that's what's expected. Teamwork is essential in many jobs, I admit, but why is "just the RIGHT" eye contact necessary? Don't stare, but don't advert your eyes.
Got it. And the fact that so many articles like this exists testifies to how common these mistakes are.
Now, on the other hand, there is pressure by companies to keep costs down and a ton of applications. This forces the employer to find "short cuts" in shifting all the applications. Many companies use software to sift through applications initially.
I have personally been googling on how to make a resume pop, and good, or rather, acceptable behavior is what I need to work on. And I will, because I know that increases the chances of a job.
But hard work alone, and being productive? That doesn't get you anywhere unless you can also act very well.
https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/9-tips-body-language-guarantees-you-get-job-ada-lehmann
Common Body Language Mistakes Employees Make - Business Insider
16 Body Language Mistakes to Avoid at the Workplace
Some of these things, I sympathize with. If you're talking to someone, it's rude to look at your phone. Period. But others, like hugging yourself, slouching, etc... what does this have to do with my productivity? Maybe I'm cold, or maybe I slouching is more comfortable for me so I work harder.
Moving up, or even keeping your job, has more to do with social savvy, ESP as you move up the ladder, than it does actual work you put into things. That's the perk of our consumer society. One person can do minimal work, with good social skills and behavioral cues, and move up, someone else can put out twice as much productivity, and get fired because they don't "connect" in just the "right way" with people.
Take the book "The Fine Art of Small Talk." She goes into having a step-by-step on how to look approachable in the workplace, and how to small talk. She expresses her own experience where she would work very hard, very competitive in output, BUT... she doesn't small talk with anyone. She doesn't make anyone feel fuzzies so over and over she was passed for promotions. Because like many introverts, social interaction is tiring and takes energy (yes it does, look it up, science on this), so she directs that energy to her work... but that doesn't pay in the long run. Working hard is nice but you have to network, too.
It REALLY is about who you know, not what you know or your skills. So when someone says "Learn a trade!" and "Work hard!" well, barring the COSTS to do so (resources needed for smooth dress and grooming and schooling), who's going to teach me how to have smooth body language and a natural disposition? I work on it with family and friends, and I know I REALLY need to work on it as I reenter the workforce. (I am currently working with Division of Rehab to target jobs right for me.) But me personally, I find interviews awkward, because I'm so focused on "looking personable" that my fears only propel my awkwardness.
As someone who struggles with social awkwardness, partly due to my environment growing up, partly personality, partly comfort... this scares me. Esp in more desk-type jobs, which I think I'm more suited for than customer service, I have to work twice as hard... not at ACTUAL work, but at my reputation.
It's not that I never smile, it's not that I'm not courteous to people. But it's really hard for me to "best bud" with people I don't know or just met, and that's what's expected. Teamwork is essential in many jobs, I admit, but why is "just the RIGHT" eye contact necessary? Don't stare, but don't advert your eyes.
Got it. And the fact that so many articles like this exists testifies to how common these mistakes are.
Now, on the other hand, there is pressure by companies to keep costs down and a ton of applications. This forces the employer to find "short cuts" in shifting all the applications. Many companies use software to sift through applications initially.
I have personally been googling on how to make a resume pop, and good, or rather, acceptable behavior is what I need to work on. And I will, because I know that increases the chances of a job.
But hard work alone, and being productive? That doesn't get you anywhere unless you can also act very well.
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