Is the Devil bound right now...?

Bowman · Jul 10, 2016

Bravo for arriving at the conclusion that Satan is presently bound, and for casting a 'yes' vote. Now you rank as one of the informed few.

A few points of clarification:

A. Scripture repeatedly does state that Satan was rendered completely immobile...completely impotent..at The Cross.

B. Scripture also states that his 'power' today is his demons, which, while he may be bound, they are still freely roaming this earth.

It is the demons who are responsible for the evil in the world today. That is why we see it everywhere, across the globe.

Indeed, Satan will only need to be released from captivity for a very short period of time and lead the demons, for they have already been doing his work since The Cross....all the work has been done for him.

Bowman · Jul 10, 2016

ukok102nak said:

You can't do anything right.

If you were honest, then you would have quoted the beginning of Jesus' parable, in Mat 13, where Satan is described as coming with his demons and then leaving (in the Absolute sense in the Greek!) while his demons stayed.

This is a clear indicator that Satan was bound.

Furthermore, you reject The Trinity.

You think that The Father is The Son.

Little wonder that you also reject what God did for you at The Cross, by binding our biggest enemy, Satan.

You are already possessed by at least one demon...and Satan is most assuredly your father.,..

ukok102nak · Jul 10, 2016

Bowman said:

:rofl: who ever tells that
"YAHWEH" IS THE FATHER OF CHRIST JESUS AND
THERES NO WRITTEN WORDS IN THE SCRIPTURES THAT
OUR LORD JESUS CHRIST THE ONLY BEGOTTEN SON OF GOD SAID THAT THE NAME OF HIS FATHER IS "YAHWEH"
THEN THE DEVIL IS NOT BOUND RIGHT NOW
FOR THERES NO SENSE OF RIGHTEOUSNESS FROM SOMEONE
WHO IS THINKIN HIGHLY OF HIMSELF BY DISREGARDING SCRIPTURES AND NOT BEING HONEST TO HIMSELF BY TWISTING THE WORDS OF GOD AND
EVEN TWISTING OUR WORDS AS THIS ONE
THAT WE SAID THIS THINGS →You think that The Father is The Son.
`` NO AS WE HAVE SAID BEFORE AND ALWAYS
THE ONLY BEGOTTEN SON OF GOD AND YOU CANT KEEP ON DENYING FOR THAT WAS YOUR YOUR OWN SELF PROCLAIMATION
AND REMEMBER HOW YOU RAN WITH THAT QUESTION``

:smoke: WERE JUSK ASKIN YOU THATS WHAT WE MEANT BECAUSE YOU ONLY JUST WANT TO THINK WHATS THE BEST FOR YOU BUT COULD BRING A FATAL END UNTO YOUR SALVATION
"YOUR SOUL IS ON THE LINE NEXT UNTO SATAN"
SO DONT EVER TRY TO DECIEVE EVERYONE ESPECIALLY
YOURSELF
FOR YOU REALLY MIS THIS PART OF THE SCRIPTURES SIMPLY BECAUSED YOU WERE TO BUSY HOW TO FIND SATAN AND THE DEVILS AND HIS DEMONS THATS WHY YOU BEEN BLINDED BY THOSE EVIL THINGS
as it is written
:read:
Mateo: 13. 13.
Therefore speak I to them in parables: because they seeing see not; and hearing they hear not, neither do they understand.
14. And in them is fulfilled the prophecy of Esaias, which saith, By hearing ye shall hear, and shall not understand; and seeing ye shall see, and shall not perceive:
15. For this people's heart is waxed gross, and their ears are dull of hearing, and their eyes they have closed; lest at any time they should see with their eyes, and hear with their ears, and should understand with their heart, and should be converted, and I should heal them.

REMEMBER WE NEVER SPOKE THOSE WORDS
BUT THE ONLY BEGOTTEN SON OF GOD WHO IS OUR SAVIOR
WHEN THE COMES

... . BY THE WAY
HOW MANY TIMES HE THE BROTHER BOWMAN HERE
MENTIONED THAT OUR LORD JESUS CHRIST
THE ONLY BEGOTTEN SON OF GOD IS OUR SAVIOR

posthuman · Jul 10, 2016

Bowman said:

but whoever rejects Christ, the cross has no power for them.
instead, they remain condemned and under the power of the spirit of the age.

we being in Christ, through the power of the cross, are "more than conquerors" and the Devil is completely emasculated so far as we are concerned. we are no longer slaves to sin - though the flesh may be weak, our life is not by flesh, but by spirit, and the Spirit is strength.

he yet prowls, seeking to devour whom he may devour, as the scripture says - and this was written after the cross - but we are no longer "whom he may devour" as we once were! instead, as the scripture also says -- resist him and he will flee from you. if he was "immobile" how could he flee? and he flees because the Lord is our power, made perfect in our own weakness; we are marked with Him and sealed by Him: not under the Devil's power any longer.

so the gospel is this: come into the light, into the power of God and His salvation, and out of the darkness, where the Devil has power over you. be set free! and see him, bound.

ukok102nak · Jul 10, 2016

indeed my brethren
satan in not bound right now
for someone who were twisting words not only unto other people but also unto those written scriptures
thats one of many reasons why those evil things are still searching unto its very victims thats why we should learn what is written
and lets not try to do those things that brother bowman did
(hope he change his ways
for he was been corrupted by his own evil thoughts) focusing unto something that would lead him unto the pits of hell
or shall we say he could lost his soul everytime
where he thinks that evil is been bound
but not realizing that he is the one who is been bound by satan becaused of his twisted mind
just read how our lord jesus christ the only begotten son of god
who is our savior when the time comes
was been bound by a certain man
as it is written
:read:
Juan: 18. 22.
And when he had thus spoken, one of the officers which stood by struck Jesus with the palm of his hand, saying, Answerest thou the high priest so?
23. Jesus answered him, If I have spoken evil, bear witness of the evil: but if well, why smitest thou me?
24. Now Annas had sent him bound unto Caiaphas the high priest.

. ... also
as it us written
:read:
Juan: 19. 25.
Now there stood by the cross of Jesus his mother, and his mother's sister, Mary the wife of Cleophas, and Mary Magdalene.
26. When Jesus therefore saw his mother, and the disciple standing by, whom he loved, he saith unto his mother, Woman, behold thy son! 27. Then saith he to the disciple, Behold thy mother! And from that hour that disciple took her unto his own home.
28. After this, Jesus knowing that all things were now accomplished, that the scripture might be fulfilled, saith, I thirst. 29. Now there was set a vessel full of vinegar: and they filled a spunge with vinegar, and put it upon hyssop, and put it to his mouth.
30. When Jesus therefore had received the vinegar, he said, It is finished: and he bowed his head, and gave up the ghost.

31. The Jews therefore, because it was the preparation, that the bodies should not remain upon the cross on the sabbath day, (for that sabbath day was an high day,) besought Pilate that their legs might be broken, and that they might be taken away. 32. Then came the soldiers, and brake the legs of the first, and of the other which was crucified with him.
33. But when they came to Jesus, and saw that he was dead already, they brake not his legs: 34. But one of the soldiers with a spear pierced his side, and forthwith came there out blood and water.
35. And he that saw it bare record, and his record is true: and he knoweth that he saith true, that ye might believe.
36. For these things were done, that the scripture should be fulfilled, A bone of him shall not be broken.
37. And again another scripture saith, They shall look on him whom they pierced.

Bowman · Jul 10, 2016

posthuman said:

This quintessential passage in 1 Peter 5 does not apply to 'The Devil'...but 'A devil'....a demon.

Remember, diabolos is anarthrous here...

Actually, Satan is bound from believers and non-believers, alike.

He has been bound from ALL humanity.

Think about it, if he could personally possess people today, then the end times would have already arrived...and they have not.

Bowman · Jul 10, 2016

Cee said:

One idea here is the Holy Spirit is binding him.

2 Thes 2:3 Let no one deceive you in any way. For that day will not come, unless the rebellion comes first, and the man of lawlessness is revealed, the son of destruction

This word "rebellion" is the idea of "falling away" or a "removing" of the covering.

I'm not teaching this, just sharing the idea.

How about The Triune God is binding him?

ukok102nak · Jul 10, 2016

ukok102nak said:

:rofl: as satan in not bound right now
or as in the devil is not bound right now
as saulo este pablo and what we meant is
the apostle of the gentiles said before
as it is written
:read:
2 Timoteo: 2. 9.
Wherein I suffer trouble, as an evil doer, even unto bonds; but the word of God is not bound.

10. Therefore I endure all things for the elect's sakes, that they may also obtain the salvation which is in Christ Jesus with eternal glory.
11. It is a faithful saying: For if we be dead with him, we shall also live with him:
12. If we suffer, we shall also reign with him: if we deny him, he also will deny us:
13. If we believe not, yet he abideth faithful: he cannot deny himself.
14. Of these things put them in remembrance, charging them before the Lord that they strive not about words to no profit, but to the subverting of the hearers.

15. Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.
16. But shun profane and vain babblings: for they will increase unto more ungodliness.
17. And their word will eat as doth a canker: of whom is Hymenaeus and Philetus;
18. Who concerning the truth have erred, saying that the resurrection is past already; and overthrow the faith of some.

19. Nevertheless the foundation of God standeth sure, having this seal, The Lord knoweth them that are his. And, Let every one that nameth the name of Christ depart from iniquity.

20. But in a great house there are not only vessels of gold and of silver, but also of wood and of earth; and some to honour, and some to dishonour.
21. If a man therefore purge himself from these, he shall be a vessel unto honour, sanctified, and meet for the master's use, and prepared unto every good work.
22. Flee also youthful lusts: but follow righteousness, faith, charity, peace, with them that call on the Lord out of a pure heart.
23. But foolish and unlearned questions avoid, knowing that they do gender strifes.

24. And the servant of the Lord must not strive; but be gentle unto all men, apt to teach, patient,
25. In meekness instructing those that oppose themselves; if God peradventure will give them repentance to the acknowledging of the truth;
26. And that they may recover themselves out of the snare of the devil, who are taken captive by him at his will.

and
as the evangelist lukas este luke wrote unto this
just as what happens to saulo este pablo
and what meant is the apostle of the gentiles
as it is written
:read:
Mga Gawa: 9. 10.
And there was a certain disciple at Damascus, named Ananias; and to him said the Lord in a vision, Ananias. And he said, Behold, I am here, Lord.
11. And the Lord said unto him, Arise, and go into the street which is called Straight, and inquire in the house of Judas for one called Saul, of Tarsus: for, behold, he prayeth,
12. And hath seen in a vision a man named Ananias coming in, and putting his hand on him, that he might receive his sight.
13. Then Ananias answered, Lord, I have heard by many of this man, how much evil he hath done to thy saints at Jerusalem:
14. And here he hath authority from the chief priests to bind all that call on thy name.

15. But the Lord said unto him, Go thy way: for he is a chosen vessel unto me, to bear my name before the Gentiles, and kings, and the children of Israel:
16. For I will shew him how great things he must suffer for my name's sake.
17. And Ananias went his way, and entered into the house; and putting his hands on him said, Brother Saul, the Lord, even Jesus, that appeared unto thee in the way as thou camest, hath sent me, that thou mightest receive thy sight, and be filled with the Holy Ghost.

18. And immediately there fell from his eyes as it had been scales: and he received sight forthwith, and arose, and was baptized.
19. And when he had received meat, he was strengthened. Then was Saul certain days with the disciples which were at Damascus.
20. And straightway he preached Christ in the synagogues, that he is the Son of God.

21. But all that heard him were amazed, and said; Is not this he that destroyed them which called on this name in Jerusalem, and came hither for that intent, that he might bring them bound unto the chief priests?
22. But Saul increased the more in strength, and confounded the Jews which dwelt at Damascus, proving that this is very Christ.

:ty:

godbless us all always

Bowman · Jul 10, 2016

ukok102nak said:

Scripture states, repeatedly, that he is bound, right now...

Deal with it...

ukok102nak · Jul 10, 2016

Bowman said:

:hrmm: when did the resurrection took place
and who is that he that you are pertaining with
or you just want to ignore what is been said in the scriptures
remember always that
dont even try to put any deception unto your words
if you really want to tell the truth as honest as what youve read
from the scriptures
as it is written
:read:
15. Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.
16. But shun profane and vain babblings: for they will increase unto more ungodliness.
17. And their word will eat as doth a canker: of whom is Hymenaeus and Philetus;
18. Who concerning the truth have erred, saying that the resurrection is past already; and overthrow the faith of some.

:ty:

godbless us all always

ukok102nak · Jul 10, 2016

:rofl: hey :hrmm: looks like
the our brother bowman here
were only just want to say something about his oracles
that he is bound, right now...

Deal with it...
↑
:lmao: it seems a bad translations
for what he meant by that this words → deal with it...
is if we are about to say anything (out of context from the scriptures)
about that oracles of his

ukok102nak · Jul 10, 2016

:hrmm: as it is written
:read:
1 Pedro: 4. 10.
As every man hath received the gift, even so minister the same one to another, as good stewards of the manifold grace of God.
11. If any man speak, let him speak as the oracles of God; if any man minister, let him do it as of the ability which God giveth: that God in all things may be glorified through Jesus Christ, to whom be praise and dominion for ever and ever. Amen.

:ty:

godbless us all always

TruthSeeker03 · Jul 10, 2016

Can Satan or any of his minions come against a child of God unless God allows him to?

Bowman · Jul 11, 2016

ukok102nak said:

:come:

:back:

:when:

:you:

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Bowman · Jul 11, 2016

TruthSeeker03 said:

Anything that occurs in this world is because God allows it, wouldn't you say...?

We are protected as long as we put on the armor of the Triune Creator God.

ukok102nak · Jul 11, 2016

:lmao: if this were true then how great his oracles is
where he was put unto the running stage on the midst
of never ending twisting and disregarding
the scriptures

:rofl: maybe his oracles came from unto his so called avatar
we hope we could ask him
about those triangle with three circle on its both side and a circle on its middle

:hrmm: indeed
that avatar of him foretells an oracles that
he is bound alright
the brother bowman here is been bound by those avatar of his
although we could be wrong about him
as a being bound unto that avatar becaused the way it looks seems
similar to the likes of that man who was bound by those evil things
as it is written
:read:
Marcos: 5. 4.
Because that he had been often bound with fetters and chains, and the chains had been plucked asunder by him, and the fetters broken in pieces: neither could any man tame him.
5. And always, night and day, he was in the mountains, and in the tombs, crying, and cutting himself with stones.
6. But when he saw Jesus afar off, he ran and worshipped him, 7. And cried with a loud voice, and said, What have I to do with thee, Jesus, thou Son of the most high God? I adjure thee by God, that thou torment me not.
8. For he said unto him, Come out of the man, thou unclean spirit. 9. And he asked him, What is thy name? And he answered, saying, My name is Legion: for we are many.

10. And he besought him much that he would not send them away out of the country.
11. Now there was there nigh unto the mountains a great herd of swine feeding.
12. And all the devils besought him, saying, Send us into the swine, that we may enter into them.
13. And forthwith Jesus gave them leave. And the unclean spirits went out, and entered into the swine: and the herd ran violently down a steep place into the sea, (they were about two thousand

and were choked in the sea.

14. And they that fed the swine fled, and told it in the city, and in the country. And they went out to see what it was that was done.

15. And they come to Jesus, and see him that was possessed with the devil, and had the legion, sitting, and clothed, and in his right mind: and they were afraid.

16. And they that saw it told them how it befell to him that was possessed with the devil, and also concerning the swine.

17. And they began to pray him to depart out of their coasts.

18. And when he was come into the ship, he that had been possessed with the devil prayed him that he might be with him.
19. Howbeit Jesus suffered him not, but saith unto him, Go home to thy friends, and tell them how great things the Lord hath done for thee, and hath had compassion on thee.

so many questions but
oh well let him finish his dishes before he answered back

:ty:

godbless us all always

ukok102nak · Jul 11, 2016

Bowman said:

:lmao: and thats how you answered back when you put a sentences
unto your own language without answering
why it tooks you
so long to run along with those questions
which you cannot answered
directly from the scriptures

:rofl: and putting a sentence out of context from the scriptures
were not meant for twisting the minds of those people
who speak english and unto someone like you
who doesnt know where to put the written words of god
and
you better not disregards the written words from the scriptures
after you put together your sentence in english

:hrmm: perhaps your words doesnt mean anything here
without the true words of god
as they say
let the scriptures speaks for itself
as it is written
:read:
Job: 1. 6.
Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the LORD, and Satan came also among them. 7. And the LORD said unto Satan, Whence comest thou? Then Satan answered the LORD, and said, From going to and fro in the earth, and from walking up and down in it.
8. And the LORD said unto Satan, Hast thou considered my servant Job, that there is none like him in the earth, a perfect and an upright man, one that feareth God, and escheweth evil?
9. Then Satan answered the LORD, and said, Doth Job fear God for nought?
10. Hast not thou made an hedge about him, and about his house, and about all that he hath on every side? thou hast blessed the work of his hands, and his substance is increased in the land.
11. But put forth thine hand now, and touch all that he hath, and he will curse thee to thy face.
12. And the LORD said unto Satan, Behold, all that he hath is in thy power; only upon himself put not forth thine hand. So Satan went forth from the presence of the LORD.

ukok102nak · Jul 11, 2016

Bowman said:

:lmao: and thats how you answered back when you put a sentences
unto your own language without answering
why it tooks you
so long to run along with those questions
which you cannot answered
directly from the scriptures

:rofl: and putting a sentence out of context from the scriptures
were meant only for twisting the minds of those people
as your bad translation that is
who only speak english but without any consent unto his people
and again
unto someone like you
who doesnt know where to put the written words of god
you should better not disregards the written words from the scriptures
after you put together your sentence in english

:hrmm: perhaps your words doesnt mean anything here
without the true words of god
as they say
let the scriptures speaks for itself
as it is written
:read:
Job: 1. 6.
Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the LORD, and Satan came also among them. 7. And the LORD said unto Satan, Whence comest thou? Then Satan answered the LORD, and said, From going to and fro in the earth, and from walking up and down in it.
8. And the LORD said unto Satan, Hast thou considered my servant Job, that there is none like him in the earth, a perfect and an upright man, one that feareth God, and escheweth evil?
9. Then Satan answered the LORD, and said, Doth Job fear God for nought?
10. Hast not thou made an hedge about him, and about his house, and about all that he hath on every side? thou hast blessed the work of his hands, and his substance is increased in the land.
11. But put forth thine hand now, and touch all that he hath, and he will curse thee to thy face.
12. And the LORD said unto Satan, Behold, all that he hath is in thy power; only upon himself put not forth thine hand. So Satan went forth from the presence of the LORD.

ukok102nak · Jul 11, 2016

:lmao: for someone who can put together a sentence in english
AND AFTERWARDS SAYING SOMETHING LIKE THIS
"SATAN WAS NAILED TO THE CROSS"
HOW WILL THEY CAN UNDERSTAND
AS A CHILDREN LIKE US
READING A STATEMENT WHICH NOT APPROPRIATE TO
PUT TOGETHER THAT MIND SETTINGS INTO A SENTENCE ON ANY LANGUAGES AS WE SPEAK

:hrmm: I RATHER BELIEVED UNTO THOSE AMERICANS WHO CAN
PUT TOGETHER A WORD UNTO THEIR HEART AND SOUL
as it it is written
:read:
Marcos: 3. 23.
And he called them unto him, and said unto them in parables, How can Satan cast out Satan?
24. And if a kingdom be divided against itself, that kingdom cannot stand.
25. And if a house be divided against itself, that house cannot stand.
26. And if Satan rise up against himself, and be divided, he cannot stand, but hath an end. 27. No man can enter into a strong man's house, and spoil his goods, except he will first bind the strong man; and then he will spoil his house.
28. Verily I say unto you, All sins shall be forgiven unto the sons of men, and blasphemies wherewith soever they shall blaspheme:
29. But he that shall blaspheme against the Holy Ghost hath never forgiveness, but is in danger of eternal damnation:

:haha: see what it means to show how the holy ghost works unto the
heart and soul of everyone who were kind hearted
and has a humbled soul who clings unto what is good
to deny what is evil
"THATS THE VERY REASON WHY
THE DEVIL IS NOT BOUND RIGHT NOW"

:ty:

godbless us all always

Ugly · Jul 11, 2016

ukok102nak said:

Well, as i said the other day, i never have a clue what you're talking about. And i don't think it's strictly an issue about english. I can work around issues with people who are not solid with english.
Second, you keep typing 'lmao' but that is not supposed to be used on the site since the A stands for a cuss word.

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