Is the Devil bound right now...?

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Is Satan bound right now?


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Satan being bound at Jesus' crucifixion...

Now is the judgment of this world; now the ruler of this world shall be cast out. And I, if I be lifted up from the earth, I will draw all to Myself. But He said this, signifying by what kind of death He was about to die. (John 12.31 - 33)
No, like I said before he was cast out of heaven to earth as prophesied. Here's the prophecy of the Prince of this worlds coming and his spirit (spirit of antichrist) coming as confirmed by Jesus and the apostles.

There seems to be a huge error going around about when Satan, the Prince that was forecast to come. As was also prophesied in Daniel, and when antichrist spirit was to come, and when the abomination that causes desolation (destruction of temple and holy city) was to be fulfilled.

Here is where the Prince was forecast to come in
Daniel 9:26 “And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself: and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined.”

This is the prophecy of the
Prince, or Satan coming which was also confirmed by Jesus. Jesus said in Luke 10:18And he said unto them, I beheld Satan as lightning fall from heaven.” Jesus also said the Prince of this world is judged in John 16:11“Of judgment, because the prince of this world is judged.”


And again in
John 14:30Hereafter I will not talk much with you: for the prince of this world cometh, and hath nothing in me.” And so again when is Satan judged, cast out, and when does hecome? John 12:31Now is thejudgment of this world: now shall the prince of this world be cast out.”


And when Jesus said now, he meant now! Not some 1,982 years or so later. Alright, we have scriptural proof to confirm this, and Jesus’ own testimony to confirm this, and now the apostles testimony of the coming of antichrist
spirit.


1 John 2:18 “Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time.”

1 John 4:3 “And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.”

2 John 1:7 “For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist.”

Note, John says nothing about a single man being called “Antichrist”, but rather he tells us
antichrist is a spirit which works in many. (many deceivers)


Need more proof? Notice when the 4
[SUP]th[/SUP] beast kingdom is in place, and when Satan/
prince of this world/ Devil/ Red dragon is in place, and also cast out.


Revelation 12:3-5 3
And there appeared another wonder in heaven; and behold a great red dragon,having seven heads and ten horns, and seven crowns upon his heads.4 And his tail drew the third part of the stars of heaven, and did cast them to the earth: and the dragon stood before the woman which was ready to be delivered, for to devour her child as soon as it was born.5 And she brought forth a man child, who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron: and her child was caught up unto God, and to his throne.”


There it is, already in place ready to devour the child Jesus as soon as it was born. How much clearer can that be?

But wait, there is more proof in
Revelation 12:5-9 "
And she brought forth a man child, who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron: and her child was caught up unto God, and to his throne.[SUP]6 [/SUP]And the woman fled into the wilderness, where she hath a place prepared of God, that they should feed her there a thousand two hundred and threescore days.[SUP]7 [/SUP]And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels,

[SUP]8 [/SUP]And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven.[SUP]9 [/SUP]And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.”

Same thing confirmed in Daniel 8:8-12 “Therefore the he goat waxed very great: and when he was strong, the great horn was broken; and for it came up four notable ones toward the four winds of heaven.
[SUP]9 [/SUP]And out of one of them came forth a
little horn, which waxed exceeding great, toward the south, and toward the east, and toward the pleasant land.

[SUP]10 [/SUP]And it waxed great, even to the host of heaven; and it cast down some of the host and of the stars to the ground, and stamped upon them.[SUP]11 [/SUP]Yea, he magnified himself even to the prince of the host, and by him the daily sacrifice was taken away, and the place of the sanctuary was cast down.[SUP]12 [/SUP]And an host was given him against the daily sacrifice by reason of transgression, and it cast down the truth to the ground; and it practised, and prospered.” (it is the spirit of a lie)

There you have it folks, these things concerning
his coming is confirmed as being fulfilled by both Jesus Christ, the apostles, and scripture.


So is your theology based on Truth, and also in line with scripture? Or is it based on a fanciful imagination of men who do not understand the spiritual things of God?
 
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Very true for he was bound whilst Jesus walked this earth. Matt 12.28-29. I would prefer to believe Jesus' view rather than the clever imaginations of chat members.

If Scripture appears to conflict with this we are misinterpreting Scripture.
Satan will be bound in the future Milleium, he was never bound, won't be bound until then.

Do y'all just make this stuff up, y'all need to get grounded in the word.
 

valiant

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Originally Posted by valiant
Very true for he was bound whilst Jesus walked this earth. Matt 12.28-29. I would prefer to believe Jesus' view rather than the clever imaginations of chat members.

If Scripture appears to conflict with this we are misinterpreting Scripture.
Satan will be bound in the future Milleium, he was never bound, won't be bound until then.

Do y'all just make this stuff up, y'all need to get grounded in the word.
Jesus said Jesus was bound whilst He was on earth (Matt 12.28-29 AND PARALLELS). He said that He had seen Satan like lightning fall from Heaven whilst He was still ministering. Passing through tells me Jesus was wrong. Oh dear. Now Who do I believe?

Furthermore his minions were defeated and led in triumph at the resurrection (Col 2.15).

By His resurrection all principalities and powers were subdued (Eph 1.20-21).

Clearly then the 'thousand years' (long period of time) during which Satan will be bound has already started. This is confirmed by the fact that he is released from the Abyss in Rev 9.1-11. As is the Beast (Rev 17.8).
 
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Jesus said Jesus was bound whilst He was on earth (Matt 12.28-29 AND PARALLELS). He said that He had seen Satan like lightning fall from Heaven whilst He was still ministering. Passing through tells me Jesus was wrong. Oh dear. Now Who do I believe?

Furthermore his minions were defeated and led in triumph at the resurrection (Col 2.15).

By His resurrection all principalities and powers were subdued (Eph 1.20-21).

Clearly then the 'thousand years' (long period of time) during which Satan will be bound has already started. This is confirmed by the fact that he is released from the Abyss in Rev 9.1-11. As is the Beast (Rev 17.8).



The above statement lacks any credence whatsoever at all and to be frank is ignorant! Seeing how it has been almost 2000 years since the resurrection and PETER wrote after the ascension that the devil walks around as a roaring lion seeking whom he may devour.....lay off the koolaid and put the comic books down!
 
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Jesus said Jesus was bound whilst He was on earth (Matt 12.28-29 AND PARALLELS). He said that He had seen Satan like lightning fall from Heaven whilst He was still ministering. Passing through tells me Jesus was wrong. Oh dear. Now Who do I believe?

Furthermore his minions were defeated and led in triumph at the resurrection (Col 2.15).

By His resurrection all principalities and powers were subdued (Eph 1.20-21).

Clearly then the 'thousand years' (long period of time) during which Satan will be bound has already started. This is confirmed by the fact that he is released from the Abyss in Rev 9.1-11. As is the Beast (Rev 17.8).
If Satan was bound when Jesus walked the Earth tell me how did he temp Jesus.

Christ saw Satan fall from Heven before he was born as Jesus. Since Satans fall he has wrecked havoc on the Earth. You are claiming knowledge that you don't process. You are ignorant of the word, it's OK to be ignorant, but it's not OK to remain ignorant.
 

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All,

Looking for scriptural positions regarding if Satan is presently bound...
Absolutely, Satan is bound. If he is not, then based on scripture, Christ still has not come to redeem this world, and defeat Satan and his works. There is much more scripture, but these two say it quite clearly, Heb 2:14-15 and II Tim 1:10.

So, far in this thread, most if not all are stating that Christ has yet to come to redeem this world. One wonders why one would celebrate Christmas let alone Easter and the Resurrection of Christ.
 

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1 Thessalonians 2:18 (KJV) Wherefore we would have come unto you, even I Paul, once and again; but Satan hindered us.

I suppose the scripture twisters will say this was the demons and not satan too.
The word is ...Σατανᾶς.Satanas g4567
 
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Like I said, he was arrested and booked at Calvary, is on bail now running around creating havoc, but will on day be apprehended and thrown into the clinker.
 
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Absolutely, Satan is bound. If he is not, then based on scripture, Christ still has not come to redeem this world, and defeat Satan and his works. There is much more scripture, but these two say it quite clearly, Heb 2:14-15 and II Tim 1:10.

So, far in this thread, most if not all are stating that Christ has yet to come to redeem this world. One wonders why one would celebrate Christmas let alone Easter and the Resurrection of Christ.
The kingdoms of this world are not yet the Kingdoms of our Lord, that happens when Christ returns again. When Jesus was caught to heaven the Devil was cast down to earth, only those whom the Lord has chosen and are sealed with His Spirit are protected from that Wicked spirit, and also given power over the enemy. Those who reject Jesus Christ are wide open to deception and attack by that Wicked spirit.

Revelation 12:9-13 "And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.[SUP]10 [/SUP]And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night.
[SUP]11 [/SUP]And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony; and they loved not their lives unto the death.
[SUP]12 [/SUP]Therefore rejoice, ye heavens, and ye that dwell in them. Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time.

[SUP]13 [/SUP]And when the dragon saw that he was cast unto the earth, he persecuted the woman which brought forth the man child."



1 John 5:18
We know that whosoever is born of God sinneth not; but he that is begotten of God keepeth himself, and that wicked one toucheth him not.
 

valiant

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Originally Posted by valiant
Jesus said Jesus was bound whilst He was on earth (Matt 12.28-29 AND PARALLELS). He said that He had seen Satan like lightning fall from Heaven whilst He was still ministering. Passing through tells me Jesus was wrong. Oh dear. Now Who do I believe?

Furthermore his minions were defeated and led in triumph at the resurrection (Col 2.15).

By His resurrection all principalities and powers were subdued (Eph 1.20-21).

Clearly then the 'thousand years' (long period of time) during which Satan will be bound has already started. This is confirmed by the fact that he is released from the Abyss in Rev 9.1-11. As is the Beast (Rev 17.8).
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The above statement lacks any credence whatsoever at all and to be frank is ignorant! Seeing how it has been almost 2000 years since the resurrection and PETER wrote after the ascension that the devil walks around as a roaring lion seeking whom he may devour.....lay off the koolaid and put the comic books down!
Perhaps the ignorance belongs to someone else? What do you think that 'the Devil walking about seeking whom he may devour' referred to? It referred to the persecutors of Christians trying to seek them out. It was not Satan directly. Satan also desired to have Peter, and seemingly was given permission. BUT THAT IS THE WHOLE POINT, he was bound and limited in what he could do.

Jesus was quite clear about Satan's binding. 'If I by the Spirit of God cast out devils then the kingly rule of God has come upon you. How can one enter into the house of the strong man and spoil his goods except he first bind the strong man, then he may spoil his goods?' (Matt 12.29; compare Luke 11.20-22). Compare how He said to His disciples, 'I beheld Satan as lightning fall from Heaven'. (Luke 10.18). Jesus saw Satan as bound and cast from Heaven during His ministry.
Even a child could see that that meant that Jesus had bound Satan. And He saw the same thing as happening to his minions at the cross (Col 2.15). That is why Rev 9.1-11; 20.1-3 sees Satan as the king of the angels as being in the Abyss and being released just prior to the end.

So I don't know what comic books you believe, but I believe Jesus and the Bible.

Satan still has power. But it is restricted by God until that which restricts is taken out of the way. He can still operate through his minions but his power is restricted.

If you had any conception of Satan's immense power you would recognise that if he had not been bound the Gospel could not have flourished.

 
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Acts 5:3
But Peter said, Ananias, why hath Satan filled thine heart to lie to the Holy Ghost, and to keep back part of the price of the land?

Acts 26:18
To open their eyes, and to turn them from darkness to light, and from the power of Satan unto God, that they may receive forgiveness of sins, and inheritance among them which are sanctified by faith that is in me.

Romans 16:20
And the God of peace shall bruise Satan under your feet shortly. The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you. Amen.

1 Corinthians 5:5
To deliver such an one unto Satan for the destruction of the flesh, that the spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord Jesus.

1 Corinthians 7:5
Defraud ye not one the other, except it be with consent for a time, that ye may give yourselves to fasting and prayer; and come together again, that Satan tempt you not for your incontinency.



2 Corinthians 2:11
Lest Satan should get an advantage of us: for we are not ignorant of his devices.

2 Corinthians 11:14
And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.

1 Timothy 5:15
For some are already turned aside after Satan.
 
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Ephesians 4:27
Neither give place to the devil.

Ephesians 6:11
Put on the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil.

1 Timothy 3:6
Not a novice, lest being lifted up with pride he fall into the condemnation of the devil.

1 Timothy 3:7
Moreover he must have a good report of them which are without; lest he fall into reproach and the snare of the devil.

1 Timothy 4:1
Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;

2 Timothy 2:26
And that they may recover themselves out of the snare of the devil, who are taken captive by him at his will.
James 4:7
Submit yourselves therefore to God. Resist the devil, and he will flee from you.
 

valiant

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Originally Posted by valiant
Jesus said Jesus was bound whilst He was on earth (Matt 12.28-29 AND PARALLELS). He said that He had seen Satan like lightning fall from Heaven whilst He was still ministering. Passing through tells me Jesus was wrong. Oh dear. Now Who do I believe?

Furthermore his minions were defeated and led in triumph at the resurrection (Col 2.15).

By His resurrection all principalities and powers were subdued (Eph 1.20-21).

Clearly then the 'thousand years' (long period of time) during which Satan will be bound has already started. This is confirmed by the fact that he is released from the Abyss in Rev 9.1-11. As is the Beast (Rev 17.8).
If Satan was bound when Jesus walked the Earth tell me how did he tempt Jesus.
But that was before Jesus bound him. Indeed it was the commencement of that binding. His full binding would soon follow.

Christ saw Satan fall from Heaven before he was born as Jesus.
In which case Satan was bound. Otherwise he could not be thrown out. You can't throw out the strongest created being without binding him. Furthermore it is clear from the context that He is describing what had enabled His disciples to cast out devils. So He certainly saw Satan as effectively bound so that they could raid his house.

Since Satan's fall he has wrecked havoc on the Earth.
No he has not. That is your invention. The world is quite capable of wreaking havoc on itself. He has been restrained so that the Gospel could have free way. He who restrains will restrain until he is taken out of the way.

You are claiming knowledge that you don't process.
If you mean that I am basing my knowledge on the knowledge that Jesus possesses I agree with you. The words I cited are the words of Jesus. Disbelieve them at your peril. At least it will prove that Satan has deceived YOU.


You are ignorant of the word, it's OK to be ignorant, but it's not OK to remain ignorant.
It appears to me that it is YOU who is ignorant of the word. You even deny the teaching of Jesus. You give a warning you would do well to take notice of. OPEN YOUR EYES.

 

valiant

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Ephesians 4:27
Neither give place to the devil.

Ephesians 6:11
Put on the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil.

1 Timothy 3:6
Not a novice, lest being lifted up with pride he fall into the condemnation of the devil.

1 Timothy 3:7
Moreover he must have a good report of them which are without; lest he fall into reproach and the snare of the devil.

1 Timothy 4:1
Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;

2 Timothy 2:26
And that they may recover themselves out of the snare of the devil, who are taken captive by him at his will.
James 4:7
Submit yourselves therefore to God. Resist the devil, and he will flee from you.
LOL why do you think that we can resist the Devil? It is because he is bound. If he were not, none could resist his will.
 

valiant

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1 Thessalonians 2:18 (KJV) Wherefore we would have come unto you, even I Paul, once and again; but Satan hindered us.

I suppose the scripture twisters will say this was the demons and not satan too.
The word is ...Σατανᾶς.Satanas g4567
well satanas literally means adversary so it could be so. But why do you think Paul was able to thwart Satan? BECAUSE SATAN WAS BOUND. If he had not been bound Paul would have been unable to take a step. Have you any idea of the immense power of Satan? No, I don't think you have. You think he is a pussy cat.
 

valiant

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Like I said, he was arrested and booked at Calvary, is on bail now running around creating havoc, but will on day be apprehended and thrown into the clinker.
you simply have no idea of the power of Satan. Even Revelation makes clear that he is limited in what he can do because he is bound.
 

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The kingdoms of this world are not yet the Kingdoms of our Lord, that happens when Christ returns again. When Jesus was caught to heaven the Devil was cast down to earth, only those whom the Lord has chosen and are sealed with His Spirit are protected from that Wicked spirit, and also given power over the enemy. Those who reject Jesus Christ are wide open to deception and attack by that Wicked spirit.

Revelation 12:9-13 "And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.[SUP]10 [/SUP]And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night.
[SUP]11 [/SUP]And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony; and they loved not their lives unto the death.
[SUP]12 [/SUP]Therefore rejoice, ye heavens, and ye that dwell in them. Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time.

[SUP]13 [/SUP]And when the dragon saw that he was cast unto the earth, he persecuted the woman which brought forth the man child."



1 John 5:18
We know that whosoever is born of God sinneth not; but he that is begotten of God keepeth himself, and that wicked one toucheth him not.
Your missing the whole meaning of Christ coming. Being bound does not mean Satan does not exist, or that he is not active in this world. Satan, by Christ's resurrection has already lost the war. He is simply warring against the population of this world, including every Christian, actually, especially Christians to deceive them and to join with him.

Here is much more scripture that states why Christ came and what He accomplished.

[FONT=Arial, sans-serif]When Christ was crucified His death represented the second death that would be the end of man if not redeemed. He decended into Hell. When he rose from the dead, Christ had bound Satan, in that He now has limited power over the second death. Christ also took with him those of the OT saints. This is the taking of the spoils of the strong man, Satan. Rev 20: 1-3. The devil is bound in that he lost some of his power over death and Hades. From the time of Christ's first coming Christ's Church is formed where the Gospel is preached. Man is summoned to the Kingdom of God and the devil is barred from preventing their entrance into it. The abyss refers to the hearts of those who have rejected God. That is the evil one sees in the world today. Satan is working mightly to overcome but knows that he will fail. [/FONT]


[FONT=Arial, sans-serif]Texts dealing with Satan Bound:[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, sans-serif]1. Mt 12:29 [/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, sans-serif]2. Mk 3:22-27 [/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, sans-serif]3. Lk 10:17-19 [/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, sans-serif]4. Jn 12:30-32 [/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, sans-serif]5. Eph 4:8 [/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, sans-serif]6. Col 2:15 [/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, sans-serif]7. Zech 13:2 [/FONT]

Very simply, if one does not believe Satan is bound currently, then they also cannot believe that Christ has come, but like the Jews are still awaiting the Messiah.
 
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LOL why do you think that we can resist the Devil? It is because he is bound. If he were not, none could resist his will.
Those who are born again from above by God's Spirit are given power over the enemy, as God's Spirit is stronger than the spirit of this world, which is of the Prince of this world.

Luke 10:19
Behold, I give unto you power to tread on serpents and scorpions, and over all the power of the enemy: and nothing shall by any means hurt you.

But those who are of the world are still under his deception and power being dead in their trespasses.
 

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Revelation 12:7-12 seems to indicate that Satan is bound in heaven until he is cast out for the tribulation. Just as the holy spirit transcends the earth, I believe its counterpart does likewise, but neither Christ or Satan are here de facto right now. The tribulation begins when Satan is cast to earth, and that cannot happen if he's already here? jmo
 

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Those who are born again from above by God's Spirit are given power over the enemy, as God's Spirit is stronger than the spirit of this world, which is of the Prince of this world.

Luke 10:19
Behold, I give unto you power to tread on serpents and scorpions, and over all the power of the enemy: and nothing shall by any means hurt you.

But those who are of the world are still under his deception and power being dead in their trespasses.
So that means that he is limited in what he can do, and therefore bound. They could hardly have power over all the power of the enemy if he was not bound in some way. Personally I think we overexaggerate his power over the world. He still has to cater for man's freewill, and he has to deceive precisely because he is limited in power.