Is the double slit experiment proof of original sin?

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Time is decay. Time is not linear but perceived. All things exist in all times the future and the past are not set. Every generation will see the return of Christ simultaneously.

Truly I tell you, this generation will certainly not pass away until all these things have happened
Matthew 24:34
 
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You say decay ..and then say it is perceived. Decay and entropy are clues of this fallen reality.

I don't get why we can't have mixed types of time ..like wave-particle duality.
 
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You say decay ..and then say it is perceived. Decay and entropy are clues of this fallen reality.
Have you ever heard of the Mandela Effect. Coined after Nelson Mandela the first black president of South Africa. Many people claim they remember Mandela dying in prison. The Mandela Effect describes different memories of events. I believe God can change the past and the Mandela Effect is memories of parallel universes that existed before God made the inception.

Our perception is decay but that can change with Gods intervention.
 

Magenta

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Original Sin started Fallen Time ..Physical History ..Linear Time (Entropy) ..Age.
Another nonsense contradiction from you... since you said sin is only possible in physical
reality, whereas those who first sinned, in your view, were not physical at all. Ho hum.


Making plain your ridiculous vain philosophy, lesson number four thousand, three hundred and seventy two :)
 
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I get it, it is difficult to understand something can have different physics than what we are experiencing. It sincerely helps to understand what wave-particle duality is.
 

Magenta

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I get it, it is difficult to understand something can have different physics than what
we are experiencing. It sincerely helps to understand what wave-particle duality is.
@posthuman has shown that you do not understand it... nor many of the terms you use.

I have also pointed out multiple inconsistencies and outright contradictions in what you put forth.

It does not take a rocket scientist to see these things, although apparently they all go over your head :oops:

That, or you simply lack the honesty required to admit when you are wrong. Perhaps it is both :)
 
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You are just trying to bait me into saying something rude. I do need to apologize for not using layman's terms. I posted these new ideas as I had them. I've been looking to Quantum Physics for years and need to consider others haven't. Decoherence is extremely difficult to explain. It is used in quantum computers all the time. The simplest definition is if something is real to us in the fallen reality then it is decoherent, wave collapsed, and local.
 
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Decoherent Time in a larger Coherent Time System is disorder ..entropy.
Satan started disorder in God's Kingdom. Disorder in a Coherent system is Decoherence. This fallen reality has entropy.
 

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Decoherence is extremely difficult to explain
no it's not. you don't have to make it incoherent.

two things are 'decoherent' if they have variable phase difference.
to be coherent a couplet doesn't even have to be "in-phase" it only has to have an invariant phase difference.

these are terms which are dependent on existence over time intervals. they don't have meaning in instantaneous measure; by definition in any 'instant' of time all things are perfectly coherent because the differential over a time interval of length 0 is always 0.
 

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. The simplest definition is if something is real to us in the fallen reality then it is decoherent, wave collapsed, and local.
that's absolutely false.
Bose-Einstein condensates are observed ((= 'wave collapsed')), physical, and coherent.


your lies are coherent -- because they are at all times out of phase with the truth by the same amount.
coherence is invariant phase difference. that doesn't mean "in phase" it means the phase of the two waves have the same offset, whether that offset is zero or non-zero. ((and per de Broglie both uncollapsed & collapsed states of matter, all matter, is wave-like -- so coherence & decoherence both are applicable to particle-like and wave-like phenomena))
 
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You can not observe waves in a Bose-Einstein condensate. If the waves were collapsed ..they would be particles.
 

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You can not observe waves in a Bose-Einstein condensate. If the waves were collapsed ..they would be particles.
did you learn nothing at all from de Broglie?

do you know what sound is? it's not particles.
 

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Schrodingers cat.."alive and yet dead at the same time.
One is physical and one is in his imagination?

Some people just have overactive imaginations, Its not a bad thing. But it can get them into trouble when the physical reality does not match up with their imagination.
 
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Ermm, maybe that is a way to describe my wave-particle duality example. The problem with the cat experiment, in our reality, is that you can't domino effect ..quantum effects to objects that can remain local on their own.
 
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Original Sin caused the first wave collapse that included souls.
Was the knowledge of the tree of good and evil, the same knowledge we gain by observing a particle with wave collapse?
 
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decoherence <987654321-SIN-coherence 123456789>
Both have history.
Both opposite as light to darkness.
And to imagine, it all began at the point of [Perfection]!
 

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Original Sin caused the first wave collapse that included souls.
Was the knowledge of the tree of good and evil, the same knowledge we gain by observing a particle with wave collapse?
No. Do you understand nothing of what the Bible teaches? Knowledge of good and evil amounts to deciding for yourself what is good despite it going against God's revealed moral precepts. it is elevating your self will above the will of God.
 

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You can not observe waves in a Bose-Einstein condensate. If the waves were collapsed ..they would be particles.
dude the more you talk the more obvious it is you have no idea what you are talking about.

definition from Brittanica:

Bose-Einstein condensate (BEC):
A state of matter in which separate atoms or subatomic particles, cooled to near absolute zero (0 K, − 273.15 °C, or − 459.67 °F; K = kelvin), coalesce into a single quantum mechanical entity—that is, one that can be described by a wave function—on a near-macroscopic scale.
 

posthuman

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Original Sin caused the first wave collapse that included souls.
you have no clue what you are saying. waves collapse by observation
God saw all that He had made, Genesis 1:31


the transition from probability-state to actuality is representative of the giving of existence by the omniscient Creator, from whose sight nothing is hidden, and the dualistic nature of all things created is representative of the physical/spiritual dual nature of the living souls He created.

it is not sinful to exist. it is the gift of God, who Himself was born as one of us, in order to redeem us from evil, not from existence.