Is the double slit experiment proof of original sin?

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posthuman

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@pittsburghjoe i'm saying this because i care about you, not in order to scorn you.

your physics is rubbish, and your theology is rubbish.
get wisdom.
 
posthuman

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pittsburghjoe said:
Ermm, maybe that is a way to describe my wave-particle duality example. The problem with the cat experiment, in our reality, is that you can't domino effect ..quantum effects to objects that can remain local on their own.
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Schrödinger came up with this because he was trying to disprove the Copenhagen interpretation of QM. he thought the absurdity of the cat having two probability states until he was observed and one of them was revealed as "real" would illustrate the what he considered the absurdity of existence being directly derived through consciousness.

but Schrödinger turned out to be wrong. the existence of the universe is impossible without the omniscience of the Creator.
this is not a lesson about heretical "matter is evil and/or doesn't exist" gnostic idiocy.
this is a lesson about the power of God and the absolute dependence all things have on Him.

the cat exists before the lid is off the box. it's not you observing the cat that gives it existence; it's God, who sees and knows all things at all times.
 
posthuman

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sorry that i am becoming more curt with you joe.
i'm frankly tired of your shenanigans and i don't see that i should feign politeness continually to someone who doesn't take anything to heart & goes on repeating things that were many times over exposed as false & unsupportable.

believe me, this is till post being gentle.
 
pittsburghjoe

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You are not grasping what you are attempting to attack. You refuse to consider, that just maybe, I'm on God's side.
 
pittsburghjoe

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KingdomBrat said:
decoherence <987654321-SIN-coherence 123456789>
Both have history.
Both opposite as light to darkness.
And to imagine, it all began at the point of [Perfection]!
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I think you are trying to say syntropy to entropy.
This place is from the knowledge of good and evil ..so we have coherence and decoherence.
 
pittsburghjoe

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If Coherence is Good, then Heaven should be Coherent ..right?

Will we be like the Holographic Principle? Can a holographic person in a hologram world be just as real?

If we become one with God, then a holographic projection could be a way for us to exist without a way to sin.
 
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pittsburghjoe said:
If we become one with God, then a holographic projection could be a way for us to exist without a way to sin.
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Let's entertain this is correct for a moment.
If we could become in this [state] of existent from our current state, we would do it.
It's impossible however to do.
How do I know?
If this was possible to enter this state where we are one with God while existing on Earth, God [wasted] time by ultimately Sacrificing Himself in Death-Burial-Resurrection.
But since [we cannot, as in it literally impossible reach the state of being one with God by entering this state voluntarily], we need the Sacrifice of God to ultimately become one with God!
 
pittsburghjoe

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I think we are in a morality test to see if we can live without the sins that are possible here.

"Since entropy is the tendency towards death, whereas syntropy is the tendency towards life, living systems in order to sustain themselves need to minimize entropy and to maximize syntropy."

"Negentropy is reverse entropy. It means things becoming more in order. By 'order' is meant organization, structure and function: the opposite of randomness or chaos. One example of negentropy is a star system such as the Solar System."
 
pittsburghjoe

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If we can live without sins we become compatible to be one with God. I want to know what that means. In QM there is something called a Universal Wave ..I'm wondering if that is God. For us to be compatible with a wave means to be able to entangle with it. Entanglement can only happen with coherence. So what does this coherent existence look like? Is it holographic?
 
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Is coherence and decoherence the good and evil of the Tree of Knowledge? How about Syntropy/Negentropy (life/order) and Entropy (death/disorder)?

If sin won't be possible in Heaven, how will the reality there be different from now?
 
pittsburghjoe

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Why would a God bother creating robots? God can place limits on his own knowledge ..knowing absolutely everything all the time probably isn't desirable.

The sooner you face the fact that we have Free Will and in a place that Satan rules ..the sooner you can look for the light ..to get out of this mess.

How can you live forever if you don't look for the way to be compatible with infinity?
 
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The angry God of the Old Testament was just shaping this place to be compatible with the Kingdom. The "anger" stopped with Jesus Christ Son of God sacrificing Himself to provide another way to God.
 
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How can you live forever if you don't look for the way to be compatible with infinity?

Is it possible for something physical to be infinite in any way?

Everything about this fallen reality is finite ..it is what allows us to sin.
 
pittsburghjoe

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If this place is about good and evil ..that means God is in the good ..that means God is future possibilities of quantum waves. That leaves physical particles of the present state to be evil. There won't be a balance when this is over. God has limited His own knowledge to allow this place to exist. God doesn't like having a front row seat to sin. Bad things happen here because this place is fallen. God works through the believers but that leaves plenty of room for this fallen place to be overwhelming. Unbelievers say they prayed for a sign from God but don't realize the situation we are in.
 
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pittsburghjoe said:
Why would a God bother creating robots? God can place limits on his own knowledge ..knowing absolutely everything all the time probably isn't desirable.

The sooner you face the fact that we have Free Will and in a place that Satan rules ..the sooner you can look for the light ..to get out of this mess.

How can you live forever if you don't look for the way to be compatible with infinity?
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There is only one way and it is not what you propose... not even close :oops::rolleyes::oops:
 
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The disorder satan started in God's Kingdom started independence from God ..to be about himself ..to sin. It was disorder in God's Coherent Kingdom which started decoherence, locality, uniqueness, and pride.

We are being tested to see if we are willing to rejoin God.
 
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