Is the God of Islam...God?

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Is the God Muslims pray to really God?

  • Yes

    Votes: 6 11.5%
  • No

    Votes: 27 51.9%
  • I Don't Know

    Votes: 2 3.8%
  • No, and it is Satan/Demons/Idols they pray to

    Votes: 16 30.8%
  • Other

    Votes: 1 1.9%

  • Total voters
    52
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Because it says that it was.
This makes no sense. You're an adult, you should no that! If I gave you a piece of paper saying, "give me all your money," would you do it or even believe it to be real just because "it says it?"

Their book says so as well!
 
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This makes no sense. You're an adult, you should no that! If I gave you a piece of paper saying, "give me all your money," would you do it or even believe it to be real just because "it says it?"

Their book says so as well!
No...it does not, actually...
 

posthuman

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for example:

This is a blessed Book which We sent down to you, for people to ponder over its message, and for those with understanding to be reminded.
(Quran, 38:29)

I am seated in everyone's heart, and from Me come remembrance, knowledge and forgetfulness. By all the Vedas I am to be known; indeed I am the compiler of Vedanta, and I am the knower of the Vedas.
(Bhagavad-Gita, 15:15)
 
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So... Their book does not say that Allah is the God of the universe? Man, we are lost!

The Koran NEVER once claims to be divinely inspired....thus, we should not expect that it was.

The Holy Bible, however, does.

Simple truth.
 
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for example:

This is a blessed
Book which We sent down to you, for people to ponder over its message, and for those with understanding to be reminded.
(Quran, 38:29)




That would be 'kitab' in Arabic...and ALWAYS refers to the Holy Bible in the Koran...



I am seated in everyone's heart, and from Me come remembrance, knowledge and forgetfulness. By all the Vedas I am to be known; indeed I am the compiler of Vedanta, and I am the knower of the Vedas.
(Bhagavad-Gita, 15:15)
No mention of being divinely inspired here...
 

Jackson123

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How do you know that the bible was inspired by the Almighty God? Did He personally come down, tap you on the shoulder and say, "hey, that's my book there!"?

Odds are that He didn't, which means you believe like the rest of us. You believe by faith! Now, could it be possible that a Muslim draws his convictions on the Qu'ran the same way we do the bible?

What if a Muslim states that his book is inspired and the bible was a "satanic masterpiece of evil," how would you react?

You see, the book isn't the problem. It is the heart of men associated with these books to do harm for that purpose. Jesus told us that the bible does NOT (in my Maury Povich voice) contain within it's pages eternal life.

And if the book I believe and have faith in does not contain it, then I'm sure that the Qu'ran does not as well.

Muslim can say anything they want. The problem here is

If catholic say believe in the bible and also say Muslim share the same God with Abraham, than it is lie,

Either Catholic not believe the bible or she is liar.
 
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The Koran NEVER once claims to be divinely inspired....thus, we should not expect that it was.

The Holy Bible, however, does.

Simple truth.
Again, because the book says so!? Lol ! Gullible you are!
 
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Muslim can say anything they want. The problem here is

If catholic say believe in the bible and also say Muslim share the same God with Abraham, than it is lie,

Either Catholic not believe the bible or she is liar.
So again, there are 2 Gods in the sky? Or did ONE God make both the man who CALLS himself Christian and the man who CALLS himself Muslim?
 

posthuman

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for example:

This is a blessed Book which We sent down to you, for people to ponder over its message, and for those with understanding to be reminded.
(Quran, 38:29)
That would be 'kitab' in Arabic...and ALWAYS refers to the Holy Bible in the Koran...

in context that's Allah speaking through an angel to Muhammed, who claims to have had no knowledge the Torah or the New Testament books, talking about the message he was giving to Muhammed. i.e. divine inspiration of the message Muhammed had. that's the way a Muslim interprets it.


I am seated in everyone's heart, and from Me come remembrance, knowledge and forgetfulness. By all the Vedas I am to be known; indeed I am the compiler of Vedanta, and I am the knower of the Vedas.
(Bhagavad-Gita, 15:15)
No mention of being divinely inspired here...
that's Krishna speaking there saying he's the compiler of the Vedas and that he is to be known by the Vedas. i.e. divine inspiration. that's the way a Hindu interprets it.

i wish it were as you say, but i think it isn't. :(
 

Jackson123

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So again, there are 2 Gods in the sky? Or did ONE God make both the man who CALLS himself Christian and the man who CALLS himself Muslim?
There are millions of God, Hindu have million of God.


If you asking about Who make human, my answered is Jehovah. Not other God. Other God is satanic.

But I am not forcing or hate people that worship other god. it is his problem, I tray to tell them the real God if they believe, if not I pray for them.

Again the problem is If one say bible is a standard than said Muslim and Abraham share the same God, she is liar.

No body force Catholic to believe in real Jesus, but If she profess to believe in Jesus than she must inline with the bible.
 
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Not just that, but pagan gods and goddesses are mostly drawn from ancestor worship, coupled with a corrupted view and splitting of the nature of our triune God. Some gods/goddesses are concepts, such as Chaos, but most aren't. Of course, behind all of these curtains, stands mankind worshipping mankind. The Enemy doesn't care what happens, as long as we're not worshipping the one true God.

Ancestors worship or idolization is all through the Christian Bible, even the Gospels have a big long list of Joesph's lineage.

Why? Because honouring ancestors in a spiritual way was all through the ancient world, including the hundreds of differing Jewish sects who used different texts and taught different things.

The messiah stuff is all about the second coming of David. They worshipped their ancestor David, that much.
 
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no. next question...?................................
 
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Jackson, you are a fool. With your sudden anti-Catholic jabs, you both derailed this thread and helped it become another hate-filled topic typical to the bible discussion forums.
 

Jackson123

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Jackson, you are a fool. With your sudden anti-Catholic jabs, you both derailed this thread and helped it become another hate-filled topic typical to the bible discussion forums.
Brother, I believe this forum is design to help each other to know the real bible, not corrupt doctrine that lead to death.

We all want happy ending.

I Hope you think twice. If catholic said Allah is God of abraham, why the teaching of Allah different with the teaching of the bible. The different is very very extremely fundamental. The Deity of Jesus.

Christian is about the Deity of Jesus isn't it?

Let me know why brother?

I learn to love people by telling the real way to heaven, not only politically correct.
 

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Who inspired the Qu'ran? I'm not interested in Hollywood ideas of "satan".
Flaming, my statement was not focused on what you are interested in! LOL. satan is not really a Hollywood idea. You see the Bible was written long before there was any Hollywood.

I invite you to check out the role of satan & demons in false religion in the Bible. There are principalities, powers, rulers of wickedness in high places (Eph 6). There is this Heavenly Warfare described in Dan 10.

I have been thru the Qu'ran some 4 times. I does not read like the Bible, but like scrambled eggs, this or that Bible character mentioned here & there higgledy piggledy.
 

Atwood

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Of course the Allah of Islam is not the YHWH of the Bible. But having said that, it does appear that Allah is Arabic for "God." Apparently the Arabic Bibles use Allah for God, and professed Christians call the God of the Bible Allah in Arabic-speaking countries. It seems probable that Allah for God goes back before Islam.

I had thought there was something to this moon-god claim, but I think that improbable as an explanation for the use of Allah for God.

I don't like the name Allah because it connotes to me the non or false god of Islam. But I think I might have to use it if I were a missionary in an Arabic speaking country.
 
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Again, because the book says so!? Lol ! Gullible you are!
Yes, because it says so.

Further, the Koran also states that The Holy Bible is divinely inspired.

So...here we have the holy Books of circa half the earth's population claiming that the Bible is divinely inspired.

Wake up...
 
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in context that's Allah speaking through an angel to Muhammed, who claims to have had no knowledge the Torah or the New Testament books, talking about the message he was giving to Muhammed. i.e. divine inspiration of the message Muhammed had. that's the way a Muslim interprets it.

No brother, that is NOT what context states at all....that is what you were led to believe by listening to ignorant followers of islam...





that's Krishna speaking there saying he's the compiler of the Vedas and that he is to be known by the Vedas. i.e. divine inspiration. that's the way a Hindu interprets it.

i wish it were as you say, but i think it isn't. :(

It does not even remotely hint at divine inspiration, even in English...
 
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There are millions of God, Hindu have million of God.


If you asking about Who make human, my answered is Jehovah. Not other God. Other God is satanic.

But I am not forcing or hate people that worship other god. it is his problem, I tray to tell them the real God if they believe, if not I pray for them.

Again the problem is If one say bible is a standard than said Muslim and Abraham share the same God, she is liar.

No body force Catholic to believe in real Jesus, but If she profess to believe in Jesus than she must inline with the bible.

Again, only ONE God. There are however, millions of opinions, differences, ideas and imaginations of what and who He is. So for THEM (and you too if you see other gods) there are many gods, but for ME, there is but ONE God, who will justify the circumcision by faith and the uncircumcision through faith!