Is The Holy Spirit in you.

[twofeet]

That was not the Holy Spirit that flashed around Saul and do note that he was not a believer in Jesus Christ at that time yet either. Saul seeing a vision of Jesus Christ was made possible by the Father.

Matthew 11:[SUP]25 [/SUP]At that time Jesus answered and said, I thank thee, O Father, Lord of heaven and earth, because thou hast hid these things from the wise and prudent, and hast revealed them unto babes. [SUP]26 [/SUP]Even so, Father: for so it seemed good in thy sight. [SUP]27 [/SUP]All things are delivered unto me of my Father: and no man knoweth the Son, but the Father; neither knoweth any man the Father, save the Son, and he to whomsoever the Son will reveal him.

John 6:[SUP]44 [/SUP]No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day.

Once the Holy Spirit is in the believer as promised by coming to & believing in Jesus Christ, believers can discern from the real indwelling Holy Spirit and the spirit of the antichrist which is in the world in according to the scripture.

Ok, maybe I should rewrite my original post...as I sat on bed with the Holy Spirit IN me the Lord Jesus visited me and filled the room with His glory? Happy now? And before you say why would He do that if the Holy Spirit is in me.....He did it for Saul....He can do it to who He wants whether they are filled with the Holy Spirit or not. People should never put limits on God. I love my God, Father, Son and Holy Spirit and I am happy to be in the company of all 3 if that was possible without dying!

 

[Abiding]

 

[twofeet]

Awwwwwww pretty!!!!

 

[Enow]

Ok, maybe I should rewrite my original post...as I sat on bed with the Holy Spirit IN me the Lord Jesus visited me and filled the room with His glory? Happy now? And before you say why would He do that if the Holy Spirit is in me.....He did it for Saul....He can do it to who He wants whether they are filled with the Holy Spirit or not. People should never put limits on God. I love my God, Father, Son and Holy Spirit and I am happy to be in the company of all 3 if that was possible without dying!

Sister, alot of believers want to believe whenever a supernatural phenomenon occurs, it is of God. They wind up believing every spirit as being of God, especially when it feels good.

However, you did not have a vision of seeing the Lord Jesus Christ. What you had experienced was not the same as what Saul had experienced.

Please consider this point of truth: if you take pause and heed John's warning to not believe every spirit but test them, then you will be led by the Good Shepherd through the Holy Spirit in you to discern that this "presence" that was felt filling the room can be no other than the spirit of the antichrist which is in the world.

If you had a problem with pride before, lean on Jesus Christ, to keep the foot of pride away from you now so that you may discern the spirit of error from the Spirit of Truth within you so that the word of Truth does not depart from your mouth.

Jesus does not need to do something dramatic to you when you are already a believer and thus He can speak to you through the Holy Spirit in you.

The dramatic comes when seducing spirits seek to take your eyes off of the Son to their presence by their signs which are felt in the flesh.

As this thread is about "Is the Holy Spirit in you..." I can only hope the Lord will help you to see why that is a line of distinction so that believers can test the spirits as they are spirits of the antichrist which are in the world.

 

[my_adonai_]

Ok, maybe I should rewrite my original post...as I sat on bed with the Holy Spirit IN me the Lord Jesus visited me and filled the room with His glory? Happy now? And before you say why would He do that if the Holy Spirit is in me.....He did it for Saul....He can do it to who He wants whether they are filled with the Holy Spirit or not. People should never put limits on God. I love my God, Father, Son and Holy Spirit and I am happy to be in the company of all 3 if that was possible without dying!

1Ki_8:10 And it came to pass, when the priests were come out of the holy place, that the cloud filled the house of the LORD,
1Ki_8:11 So that the priests could not stand to minister because of the cloud: for the glory of the LORD had filled the house of the LORD.

Act 2:2 And suddenly there came a sound from heaven as of a rushing mighty wind, and it FILLED ALL the house where they were sitting.

i believe this is what is Called the ""presence of GOD"", and i have had GOD visit my room many times ...

 

[my_adonai_]

Sister, alot of believers want to believe whenever a supernatural phenomenon occurs, it is of God. They wind up believing every spirit as being of God, especially when it feels good.

However, you did not have a vision of seeing the Lord Jesus Christ. What you had experienced was not the same as what Saul had experienced.

Please consider this point of truth: if you take pause and heed John's warning to not believe every spirit but test them, then you will be led by the Good Shepherd through the Holy Spirit in you to discern that this "presence" that was felt filling the room can be no other than the spirit of the antichrist which is in the world.

If you had a problem with pride before, lean on Jesus Christ, to keep the foot of pride away from you now so that you may discern the spirit of error from the Spirit of Truth within you so that the word of Truth does not depart from your mouth.

Jesus does not need to do something dramatic to you when you are already a believer and thus He can speak to you through the Holy Spirit in you.

The dramatic comes when seducing spirits seek to take your eyes off of the Son to their presence by their signs which are felt in the flesh.

As this thread is about "Is the Holy Spirit in you..." I can only hope the Lord will help you to see why that is a line of distinction so that believers can test the spirits as they are spirits of the antichrist which are in the world.

Exo_33:14 And he said, My presence shall go with thee, and I will give thee rest.
Php 4:7 And the peace of God, which passeth all understanding, shall keep your hearts and minds through Christ Jesus.

GOD is in control.

 

[twofeet]

"However, you did not have a vision of seeing the Lord Jesus Christ. What you had experienced was not the same as what Saul had experienced."

WOW!!!!!! I did not realise you were there too and can tell me EXACTLY what I was experiencing! Thanks for the insight of things I missed. I have had MANY more experiences of jesus since this one, too many too record and each one has ministered His grace, His love and brought me closer to him. So if that is the enemy he may need therapy cos he is pushing me in wrong direction.


"If you had a problem with pride before, lean on Jesus Christ, to keep the foot of pride away from you now so that you may discern the spirit of error from the Spirit of Truth within you so that the word of Truth does not depart from your mouth."

Pride? It is not me trying to correct another person based on the little they know about another person and based on their OWN understanding of scripture. I gave you a testimony of something I experienced. My own PERSONAL testimony. Your first response was to correct me with your knowledge of bible. You didnt enquire about anything else, you didnt ask me how old I was or what I learnt at the time. No...you just wanted to correct on a few words on the forum. You do know that knowledge puffs up right? I only correct when the Holy Spirit promps me too as He knows the FULL story and is very capable of convicting without my help.

"Jesus does not need to do something dramatic to you when you are already a believer and thus He can speak to you through the Holy Spirit in you."

No He doesnt need to....but in my case He LOVES to.

"The dramatic comes when seducing spirits seek to take your eyes off of the Son to their presence by their signs which are felt in the flesh."

I dont feel them "in the flesh" I feel it in my spirit, the same as if I walked into a room full of demons I would feel it in my spirit...yet they are still OUTSIDE of me.

 

[Enow]

1Ki_8:10 And it came to pass, when the priests were come out of the holy place, that the cloud filled the house of the LORD,
1Ki_8:11 So that the priests could not stand to minister because of the cloud: for the glory of the LORD had filled the house of the LORD.

Act 2:2 And suddenly there came a sound from heaven as of a rushing mighty wind, and it FILLED ALL the house where they were sitting.

i believe this is what is Called the ""presence of GOD"", and i have had GOD visit my room many times ...

What a way to make void John's warning and instruction about how we can test the spirits.

Do read that again. If God really want us to read that as the Holy Spirit filling the room, then it would be written as such, but no.

What filled the room was a sound from heaven of a mighty rushing wind.

Did you experinced that? No. Neither did anyone else after that day of Pentecost.

The Holy Spirit is not a sound of mighty rushing wind. He is the Person of the Triune God and because of the promise, He is not filling the room, but the disciples on that day of Pentecost. It was only the sound of a mighty rushing wind that was filling the room.

 

[Enow]

"However, you did not have a vision of seeing the Lord Jesus Christ. What you had experienced was not the same as what Saul had experienced."

WOW!!!!!! I did not realise you were there too and can tell me EXACTLY what I was experiencing! Thanks for the insight of things I missed. I have had MANY more experiences of jesus since this one, too many too record and each one has ministered His grace, His love and brought me closer to him. So if that is the enemy he may need therapy cos he is pushing me in wrong direction.

Are you still trying to do the best you can in keeping that list not to sin or not? If not, then that direction was nowhere but making Christ a minister of sin which God would forbid.

"If you had a problem with pride before, lean on Jesus Christ, to keep the foot of pride away from you now so that you may discern the spirit of error from the Spirit of Truth within you so that the word of Truth does not depart from your mouth."

Pride? It is not me trying to correct another person based on the little they know about another person and based on their OWN understanding of scripture. I gave you a testimony of something I experienced. My own PERSONAL testimony. Your first response was to correct me with your knowledge of bible. You didnt enquire about anything else, you didnt ask me how old I was or what I learnt at the time. No...you just wanted to correct on a few words on the forum. You do know that knowledge puffs up right? I only correct when the Holy Spirit promps me too as He knows the FULL story and is very capable of convicting without my help.

When you spot a trespass, you would address it by the scripture without inquiring about anything else, don't you?

"Jesus does not need to do something dramatic to you when you are already a believer and thus He can speak to you through the Holy Spirit in you."

No He doesnt need to....but in my case He LOVES to.

Not like that, He doesn't. His word says so. Otherwise you would not be able to test the spirits from the real indwelling Holy Spirit.

"The dramatic comes when seducing spirits seek to take your eyes off of the Son to their presence by their signs which are felt in the flesh."

I dont feel them "in the flesh" I feel it in my spirit, the same as if I walked into a room full of demons I would feel it in my spirit...yet they are still OUTSIDE of me.

Seeing how you had testified of a presence filling the room, that would be indicative of feeling it outside of you and thus in the flesh by having a sensation in the flesh of feeling the presence in the room.

Just so you know.. seducing spirits mean just that...they can seduce with plkeasant semsations and feelings as well and so sensing demons in the room as some sort of negative feeling in your spirit is not a sure fire way of testing the spirits in the room.

The only way to know the real Holy Spirit is by Him dwelling within you. Jesus said that and He meant it. He also said that the world receive Him not because it seeth Him not, which is indicative of the rudiment in the world in how they see other spirits by the signs they bring when visiting as in the case of a medium or those in the occult.

Since God asks us to abstain from all appearances of evil under the New Covenant, He will do the same if we are to do that as well. His Presence can never be like it was felt in the Old Covenant at the Temple or in a place because we are the temple of the living God and why the Holy Spirit will only reside in us as testimony of that New Covenant.

So any manifestation of God will only bring about this good report.

1 Corinthaias 14:[SUP]24 [/SUP]But if all prophesy, and there come in one that believeth not, or one unlearned, he is convinced of all, he is judged of all: [SUP]25 [/SUP]And thus are the secrets of his heart made manifest; and so falling down on his face he will worship God, and report that God is in you of a truth.

Any deviation from that as placing a manifestation to be felt in the world, then that is the spirit of the antichrist taking your eyes off of the Son in relating to God by... even if it was for a moment.

 

[Enow]

Exo_33:14 And he said, My presence shall go with thee, and I will give thee rest.
Php 4:7 And the peace of God, which passeth all understanding, shall keep your hearts and minds through Christ Jesus.

GOD is in control.

God is control but that does not give anyone the license nor the liberty to ignore His words because we are to do them in order to get that rest.

Matthew 11:[SUP]28 [/SUP]Come unto me, all ye that labour and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest. [SUP]29 [/SUP]Take my yoke upon you, and learn of me; for I am meek and lowly in heart: and ye shall find rest unto your souls. [SUP]30 [/SUP]For my yoke is easy, and my burden is light.

But no. Apparently even all of those invitations to come to the Son is not satisfying enough in the way we come to God by.

John 5:[SUP]39 [/SUP]Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me. [SUP]40 [/SUP]And ye will not come to me, that ye might have life.

Those that seek after the Spirit to receive again and again, or to even feel "His Presence" have testified of having a hunger for more of God which proves it is not of Him because of this promise Jesus had given for coming to Him and believing in Him.

John 6:[SUP]35 [/SUP]And Jesus said unto them, I am the bread of life: he that cometh to me shall never hunger; and he that believeth on me shall never thirst.

 

[twofeet]

Enow let me share something with you.

There is something called a Pharisee spirit and what that demonic spirit does is judge without full knowledge or prompting from the Holy Spirit. The bible says that if your brother is sister offends you go to them....have I offended you? If not has the Holy Spirit prompted you to correct me? If not, you are stepping into some very dangerous ground.

You do not know me neither do you know my walk with the Lord. I have seen many Christians behave as if they were God, KNOWING all things yet know very little. The original sin is " I will be like God KNOWING good from evil"

I know what I am seeing here.

You did not ask ANYTHING about what my experience was but jumped in with both feet very quick to judge.I have not seen you show any love or offer to pray for me if Im in great error. After all our fight is NOT against flesh and blood. Judgement, without love is not of God. If you are SO concerned for my well being where is your compassion instead of judgement? Where are your offers of prayer to intercede on my behalf so that God can set me right? ...yes GOD set me right not you.O
I have met many christians who know their bible well. Very few who know Gods nature well

 

[Kate913]

The Holy Ghost in a you.​

One of the biggest lies people believe today is when do the Holy Ghost actually enter to RESIDE in you. To dwell in you, or to REMAINETH in you. Despite what the Bible teach most “Christians” have NO idea what happens when God puts HIS SEED (Holy Spirit) in a person.
So let us go step by step how the Bible teaches and not these LOST FALSE TEACHERS… Let us see WHAT GOD SAYS about whosoever recieves the Holy Spirit to live in him…
The first verse we will use is 1 John 3:9. In this verse God calls a spade a spade… If you look at this verse you will propably say as I did…. “GOD! This Bible is lying to me now!” But after I studied the Word of God for about 140 000 hours, I still could not find a SINGLE verse that contradicts this verse. Not even a hint of God wanting us to sin… Or permission of God to remain a sinner. NONE! NOT ONE! Actually the OPPOSITE is the Truth. God expects PERFECTION! And He expects it right here on earth… IN THIS BODY YOU ARE NOW! So let us do this, and stop bulldusting people with FALSE teachings,
1 John 3:9… Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.

Please do not edit or twist or add or take away from this verse…. The WHOLE Bible teaches this. If you need to change this to feel comfortable, the Holy Spirit will NOT STOP reproofing, or convincing or convicting you of the sin in your life. Even if you refuse to stop sinning, the Holy Spirit will still reproof you. Until the day you die, even if you are of the world and not a child of God from heaven. Note FROM heaven…. Jesus said His brethren is NOT OF THIS WORLD even as HE is not of this world.
If we think God or the translaters made a mistake here in 1 John3:9, then God gave us 1 John5:18 to even show just how “delivered” people are when the Holy Spirit resides IN THEM!.... 1 John 5:18… We know that whosoever is born of God sinneth not; but he that is begotten of God keepeth himself, and that wicked one toucheth him not.

Who KEEPETH HIMSELF? The Holy Spirit keepeth himself…. Remember if the Holy Spirit comes to fill you (live in you) HE IS THE SPIRIT THAT KEEPETH HIMSELF…. That is why HE CANNOT SIN! He is the Spirit of GOD! And HE HAS NO COMMUNION WITH DARKNESS… He is the Spirit of light, and the light CHASETH OUT THE DARKNESS!
The Bible says GOD KNOWS TO DELIEVER HIS CHILDREN FROM TEMPTATION….I ask this now…. If God delivered you from temptation, do you think you can still sin… How can you sin if you are not even TEMPTED? How can you sin if the WICKET ONE cannot even touch you with a temptation? You see just as the temptations was SILLY works of Satan to Jesus, that is how they become if God DELIVERS you… Did Jesus not teach us to pray for that? Lead us not into temptaion, but DELIVER us from evil! Now say that AFTER God delievered you, you can still sin. It is BLASPHEMY.
I know one thing about God…. If God bless it, it remains blessed FOREVER! So many people refer to Paul as a sinner. I challenge them…what sin did he do? I know he lied, but when God showed me what OTHERS percieved as a lie, I understood why Paul said these things. And if you read this, why do you STILL see Paul as a sinner? Look at yourself, and then call Paul a sinner again, HYPOCRATE!
Here read this and if you do not know Paul as well as you know yourself, do not even qoute him. He was a HOLY APOSTLE appointed by God, who are you and to what post did God appoint you? Read this….For if the truth of God hath more abounded through my lie unto his glory; why yet am I also judged as a sinner?

Do you even know what Paul lied about? I doubt it. Ask God to SHOW you! And if you know APPLY that wisdom as I do! To TEACH TRUTH, not lies!
Let me assure you one thing today…. NOBODY recieves the Holy Spirit to LIVE IN THEM, BEFORE they are not saints… Saints are people that ALREADY STOPPED ALL SIN! Eph 4:11 to 13. Paul was one that was appointed for : “PERFECTING THE SAINTS”. As Eph 4 goes on ..... UNTO A PERFECT MAN…. To the fulness of Christ. Read this and judge for yourself how perfect the Apostles, prophets, evangelists, pastors and teachers has to be to make a sinless man unto a perfect man.
And he gave some, apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers; Eph 4:12 For the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ: Eph 4:13 Till we all come in the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect man, unto the measure of the stature of the fulness of Christ:

The Holy Spirit baptism INTO YOU is the FINAL step to make you Christ like, not the first step. The Spirit LEADS before He fills! I will continue thiis teaching later. Get this into your hearts FIRST! Love you all, because God loves you all.

Proverbs 24:16
16 for though a righteous man falls seven times, he rises again,
but the wicked are brought down by calamity.

Romans 7:20
Now if I do what I do not want to do, it is no longer I who do it, but it is sin living in me that does it.

1 John 1:8
8 If we claim to be without sin, we deceive ourselves and the truth is not in us.

in Christ's Love,
Kate

 

[Enow]

Enow let me share something with you.

There is something called a Pharisee spirit and what that demonic spirit does is judge without full knowledge or prompting from the Holy Spirit. The bible says that if your brother is sister offends you go to them....have I offended you? If not has the Holy Spirit prompted you to correct me? If not, you are stepping into some very dangerous ground.

You do not know me neither do you know my walk with the Lord. I have seen many Christians behave as if they were God, KNOWING all things yet know very little. The original sin is " I will be like God KNOWING good from evil"

I know what I am seeing here.

You did not ask ANYTHING about what my experience was but jumped in with both feet very quick to judge.I have not seen you show any love or offer to pray for me if Im in great error. After all our fight is NOT against flesh and blood. Judgement, without love is not of God. If you are SO concerned for my well being where is your compassion instead of judgement? Where are your offers of prayer to intercede on my behalf so that God can set me right? ...yes GOD set me right not you.O
I have met many christians who know their bible well. Very few who know Gods nature well

When you voted "like" to post #105 about God visiting his room many times, how can I not be concern for you that you are likeminded with the other poster and thus meaning what you say as being what he has said?

There can be no partiality in keeping the faith which is the good fight.

What is the title of this thread? And yet it seems I am fighting to keep that faith by oppositions of that truth about Him being in us as if it is no big deal because He is all around us and here and there and everywhere that no one can test the spirits then.

So let me ask you this: HOW can you test the spirits if the Holy Spirit can be testified as being outside of us and in the room visiting from time to time as if He is not in you and abiding in you forever?

What would you say when you go to church and the pastor is at the pulpit, but the elders and the deacon and certain prestigious members of the congregation are out and about calling the same of the pastor to come as if he isn't at the pulpit?

You stand up aqnd tell them all that hey... he is right there at the pulpit. They respond that they acknowledged you and that they know that, but still turn around and continued to look for the pastor calling out his name to come and preach.

This is the hypocrisey we are to avoid and if the spirit of error is leading believers to testify where the Spirit of Christ is as being felt in the room or in the worship place when He is already within us... that is a trespass needed to be addressed, because by His words, that is not the Holy Spirit, but the spirit of the antichrist.

 

[twofeet]

When you voted "like" to post #105 about God visiting his room many times, how can I not be concern for you that you are likeminded with the other poster and thus meaning what you say as being what he has said?

There can be no partiality in keeping the faith which is the good fight.

What is the title of this thread? And yet it seems I am fighting to keep that faith by oppositions of that truth about Him being in us as if it is no big deal because He is all around us and here and there and everywhere that no one can test the spirits then.

So let me ask you this: HOW can you test the spirits if the Holy Spirit can be testified as being outside of us and in the room visiting from time to time as if He is not in you and abiding in you forever?

What would you say when you go to church and the pastor is at the pulpit, but the elders and the deacon and certain prestigious members of the congregation are out and about calling the same of the pastor to come as if he isn't at the pulpit?

You stand up aqnd tell them all that hey... he is right there at the pulpit. They respond that they acknowledged you and that they know that, but still turn around and continued to look for the pastor calling out his name to come and preach.

This is the hypocrisey we are to avoid and if the spirit of error is leading believers to testify where the Spirit of Christ is as being felt in the room or in the worship place when He is already within us... that is a trespass needed to be addressed, because by His words, that is not the Holy Spirit, but the spirit of the antichrist.

I see your focus is still set on trying to correct rather than show love.....and you dont think Im discerning spirits now?

 

[Enow]

I see your focus is still set on trying to correct rather than show love.....and you dont think Im discerning spirits now?

Do your children use that line on you?

 

[Cobus]

Cobus i understand what you wrote here and I have agreed with you the problem is people are not staying in the Spirit 100% all the time and when one is in the Spirit thier minds are focused on Christ and they do not sin. Now Church has been set here on earth and therefore people are in the Spirit when they go or when they read the word at home, and forget who they are in the Spirit of God as soon as they leave off into this world, they get caught back up in the old mind set that has not really left them yet for they do not know how to renew thier minds and actually start seeing from God the Father's perspective, (if only they will ask Father this through the Son Christ) From Fathers' vantage point God took all sin away at the cross of Christ John 1:29 is the witness that this was going to happen and that there was a new covenant in Christ and through Christ's death at the cross Hebrews 9:15-17 by receiving this yes we are to leave all sin behind and walk in the newness of life. Man's dead Spirit is willing and tries as you have said you try and are not there yet, Jesus said in the Garden of gesthemne that his disciples were willing but thier flesh was weak, there fore they or no man by thier flesh can do the job of being perfect in and of themselves, the need to be born again is needed and see this truth and walk in the Spirit of God at all times. Again the problem is no one is willing to die to thier own flesh in the Spirits of thier own mind, yet GOD has gone and took care of theblem through the crossand has accepted them in the beloved and GOD will carry on the work that God began in the believer in his Son that he sent to redeem the whole world and you are one that claims to believe, so therefore walk in the light as he is in the loight receive this love and thus you are in him, God is not a liar because through his SON the righteous one he sees through him to you and all that believe as already perfefct thus he lives in you to teach you truth from error which I see that you see. This is the mystery that Paul has spoken to all Jesus Christ in you the hope of your glory
In love again and always from God

Homy , read the new thead on Paul's Lie...

 

[Cobus]

Cobus

1) do you still sin?
2) are you still a human?

THE GOSPEL IS BECAUSE OF AND FOR THOSE WHO ARE 1 & 2.

do you ever plan to submit to the Gospel?
you're a mature man in years, Cobus.
i wouldn't keep putting off just stopping your fanaticism and finding a decent peaceful church and just be baptized and commit to the Lord for life.

i think you're making excuses because you've still got some pet sins you're in bondage to. and plan to hold on to.
the tragedy is, until you OBEY the Gospel you can forget freedom from them.

you're just playing games.

Hallo Zonie, Love yah.... Oh my dear friend, if I could stop sin at my pace I would have stopped the day I got to know Jesus! Paul said... Some comes and sow the seed, other's come and water the soil, but GOD LET GROW... We all talk about a sanctification (setting apart) we all talk about the road or way of repentance, we all talk about a Process (the Bible talks about growth and love and obedience to faith and maturing, of new wine and old wine, of faith to FAITH, of milk and meat. So the only question remains.... Who determines the growth, and the PRODUCE!

Who determines this seed will produce nothing, and that one thirty fold and that one sixty and that one one hundred fold? Who decides what man will be called, and what man will be chosen? Who decides to CALL many, and choose few?

Zone if I was not CALLED by God, Iwould not have even started to repent, or die off the sin I did so far. If God is the one that determines all these things do you not think He also determines who gets baptized WHEN! I talk about the baptism of Holy Spirit, not that act of water baptism. Where one sinner dumps another.... I promise you if I am in the state I am in now, and it was in John's time, I would be one of the people John would have said too.... I baptize with water but He that comes after..... Zonie I would have allowed John to baptize me.... There is no John today, so I propably would not be baptized in water. However Jesus answered through my mouth that HE WILL BAPTIZE, or is already busy to baptize me, when I was bofore a council and on BIG TRIAL for what I said in a church one day.

I answer you this Zone, becasue I believe you will come to see the Truth. I have FAITH IN CHRIST....

 

[Cobus]

Cobus:

If you are still maintaining that you are not a christian, feel free to share some of your "top" experiences you have been having with the Holy Spirit Whom you have called upon to have "fellowship" with, and maybe.. just maybe.. other believers may see the necessity of why Jesus Christ is the only way to God the Father in living that reconciled relationship with Him... God willing, that is, if He is peradventuring to recover some from the snare of the devil... and you may just learn something too about the Truth Whom is Jesus Christ.

The Truth is not for God's Children only.... God said that teh ones that KNOWS the Truth but haredened their hearts He will give over to their lust in their flesh... Man after man and no natural love in them...

They knew the Truth, so that shows that the Truth is not for the elect only... The difference is, WHO ELECTS TO WLAK AS THE TRUTH TEACHES! It is KEEPING the Truth that makes us free.... God said so often... IF YOU KEEP MY WORD (Truth) then this and that...

So it is not KNOWING the Word, it is believing and DOING to Word that makes the difference. But Without knowing there is NO Hope! God says... His people FALL because of a lack of knowledge.... (Knowing the Word is the knowledge)

But I will share something in the new thread.... Paul's lie.

 

[Cobus]

Yes i am interested. I cannot find where Paul lied when he preached.

Read the thread... Paul's lie.

 

[twofeet]

Do your children use that line on you?

Nope, they never have. My 3 children show respect, although theyre no longer children. They were raised in love with correction. Does the bible not say that the greatest of these is Love? Is Gods nature not love?

I gave a testimony, your first response was to correct me.
You tried to correct by saying the Holy Spirit can only be in us, not around us. The Holy Spirit is God, and I gave you a few examples how God can be outside us. And My adonai did the same
You then basically said that God doesn't do things like that anymore, he did it to Saul because He wasnt saved yet.

No where in the bible does it say that God would never do that again. You cannot speak on behalf of God to say what He will or wont do or the reasons why He may do that kinda thing.

He is the same God yesterday today and forever.

Just because your own experience of what it is to be a christian may not match up to other peoples experiences does not mean to say you are right and others are wrong.

When people walk in the state of thinking they know it all they jump in to correct with the little knowledge they have.
When people walk in humility knowing they have much to learn because the things of the kingdom of God are so vast and deep they are quick to listen and slow to speak.

Above all is love, and we are called to love others above ourselves, this is the very nature of Christ's heart. To love others above yourself means you will take time to listen to another person and get to know their heart and their walk with the Lord without heaping judgement and correction on them if they dare speak.

As I said earlier, Ive met many Christians who know their bible very well but very few who know the Lord very well.