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Kefa dust the dust off, and leave you peace if you have any. I know scripture my friend, even your suggestions are not correct. What is wrong? Did I NOT offer you friendship or love or even a home.... Why would you want to shake the dust off? Again just because we do not agree does not gaurentee you are right... In fact you are wrong.
Is the spirits of the prophets subject to the prophets, Kefa... Did God not say where TWO OR THREE gather IN HIS NAME... what does IN HIS NAME MEAN Kefa?
Can you answer these questions with Scripture coorect answers...
Kefa a hard one, are you an ELDER or Bishop at your church? Are you APT to teach? Can I ask you a hard question, not for conflict, but to SHOW God's Name to you... Many can profit by the CORRECT answer....
What is the Name of the Holy Spirit?
Is the spirits of the prophets subject to the prophets, Kefa... Did God not say where TWO OR THREE gather IN HIS NAME... what does IN HIS NAME MEAN Kefa?
Can you answer these questions with Scripture coorect answers...
Kefa a hard one, are you an ELDER or Bishop at your church? Are you APT to teach? Can I ask you a hard question, not for conflict, but to SHOW God's Name to you... Many can profit by the CORRECT answer....
What is the Name of the Holy Spirit?
And there are many young christians out there still, no matter how long they have been saved, that can identify with what you are doing as they too have been long in striving to not sin by doing the best they can not to by the religious flesh still.
Jesus told us how we will know the real Holy Spirit and that is by Him dwelling within us. He deferred from the spirits as the world seeks after them by how they see it as a medium does when invoking spirits to come and by it, signs of its presence is in the room. Since believers are to abstain from all appearances of evil now under the New Covenant, since the Temple has fallen and God's Presence is no longer confined to a place but indwelling believers, we should be witnesses of the Son in according to the New Covenant and that He dwells within us.
Otherwise... you nor anyone else can test the spirits and yet John gave a specific guideline in how to do this.
Jesus told the Samaritan woman at the well in John 4th chapter that God will no longer be confined at a place for believers to go to in order to worship Him... and said that the true worshippers that seek the Father will worship Him IN spirit and IN truth so that means what we know now as that our bodies are the temple of the Holy Spirit and by coming to the Son is how we can worship the Father anywhere.
Okay then. You have just removed yourself of all responsibility to correct anyone in keeping the faith which is the good fight.
You are ignoring alot of scriptures where believers are to correct and rebuke when a brother is caught in a trespass. Jesus has taught us to do this and excommunicate if the brother is unrepentant in showing care and concern for the body of Christ.
We have God's judgments to relay to believers to warn them as well as instruct them in Christ's love. To ignore this is to show a lack of His love towards those astray. Paul taught the church to excommunicate the unrepentant brother in the hopes that he will be led to repentance.
There can be no lie of the truth and so your testimony needs pruning by Him so that your witness of the Son will be in sync with the witness of the Spirit's in lining up with His words in continuing to be His disciple.
We all need His words and His help to guide us and enable us. I am not perfect yet and neither is anyone else, but when you have a "talent", you are required to share that talent in the body of Christ for others to grow in the knowledge of Him so that their love may abound more and more.
Imagine how a Catholic feels everytime you correct him or her in their walk with the Lord by the scripture. They feel as you do that no one should be judging their love and their zeal for God nor question the supernatural phenomenons they have been exposed to like miracles of the Virgin Mary of their personal encounters with the Holy Ghost also. How long these believers that believe in the Lord Jesus Christ and that God raised Him from the dead are saved, but know it not because of what was built on that foundation as the works of catholicism denies that foundation that was laid?
All believers need to go before that throne of grace for help & wisdom from the Good Shepherd to help them discern and repent from all iniquity in order to be ready and found abiding in Him when the Bridegroom comes for the bride.
Everytime you and I correct anyone in regards to the Truth that is Jesus Christ with His help and with His love, we are saying "Come.."
Galatians 4:16Am I therefore become your enemy, because I tell you the truth?
Proverbs 27:17Iron sharpeneth iron; so a man sharpeneth the countenance of his friend.
Jesus told us how we will know the real Holy Spirit and that is by Him dwelling within us. He deferred from the spirits as the world seeks after them by how they see it as a medium does when invoking spirits to come and by it, signs of its presence is in the room. Since believers are to abstain from all appearances of evil now under the New Covenant, since the Temple has fallen and God's Presence is no longer confined to a place but indwelling believers, we should be witnesses of the Son in according to the New Covenant and that He dwells within us.
Otherwise... you nor anyone else can test the spirits and yet John gave a specific guideline in how to do this.
Jesus told the Samaritan woman at the well in John 4th chapter that God will no longer be confined at a place for believers to go to in order to worship Him... and said that the true worshippers that seek the Father will worship Him IN spirit and IN truth so that means what we know now as that our bodies are the temple of the Holy Spirit and by coming to the Son is how we can worship the Father anywhere.
Okay then. You have just removed yourself of all responsibility to correct anyone in keeping the faith which is the good fight.
You are ignoring alot of scriptures where believers are to correct and rebuke when a brother is caught in a trespass. Jesus has taught us to do this and excommunicate if the brother is unrepentant in showing care and concern for the body of Christ.
We have God's judgments to relay to believers to warn them as well as instruct them in Christ's love. To ignore this is to show a lack of His love towards those astray. Paul taught the church to excommunicate the unrepentant brother in the hopes that he will be led to repentance.
There can be no lie of the truth and so your testimony needs pruning by Him so that your witness of the Son will be in sync with the witness of the Spirit's in lining up with His words in continuing to be His disciple.
We all need His words and His help to guide us and enable us. I am not perfect yet and neither is anyone else, but when you have a "talent", you are required to share that talent in the body of Christ for others to grow in the knowledge of Him so that their love may abound more and more.
Imagine how a Catholic feels everytime you correct him or her in their walk with the Lord by the scripture. They feel as you do that no one should be judging their love and their zeal for God nor question the supernatural phenomenons they have been exposed to like miracles of the Virgin Mary of their personal encounters with the Holy Ghost also. How long these believers that believe in the Lord Jesus Christ and that God raised Him from the dead are saved, but know it not because of what was built on that foundation as the works of catholicism denies that foundation that was laid?
All believers need to go before that throne of grace for help & wisdom from the Good Shepherd to help them discern and repent from all iniquity in order to be ready and found abiding in Him when the Bridegroom comes for the bride.
Everytime you and I correct anyone in regards to the Truth that is Jesus Christ with His help and with His love, we are saying "Come.."
Galatians 4:16Am I therefore become your enemy, because I tell you the truth?
Proverbs 27:17Iron sharpeneth iron; so a man sharpeneth the countenance of his friend.
Cobus i understand what you wrote here and I have agreed with you the problem is people are not staying in the Spirit 100% all the time and when one is in the Spirit thier minds are focused on Christ and they do not sin. Now Church has been set here on earth and therefore people are in the Spirit when they go or when they read the word at home, and forget who they are in the Spirit of God as soon as they leave off into this world, they get caught back up in the old mind set that has not really left them yet for they do not know how to renew thier minds and actually start seeing from God the Father's perspective, (if only they will ask Father this through the Son Christ) From Fathers' vantage point God took all sin away at the cross of Christ John 1:29 is the witness that this was going to happen and that there was a new covenant in Christ and through Christ's death at the cross Hebrews 9:15-17 by receiving this yes we are to leave all sin behind and walk in the newness of life. Man's dead Spirit is willing and tries as you have said you try and are not there yet, Jesus said in the Garden of gesthemne that his disciples were willing but thier flesh was weak, there fore they or no man by thier flesh can do the job of being perfect in and of themselves, the need to be born again is needed and see this truth and walk in the Spirit of God at all times. Again the problem is no one is willing to die to thier own flesh in the Spirits of thier own mind, yet GOD has gone and took care of theblem through the crossand has accepted them in the beloved and GOD will carry on the work that God began in the believer in his Son that he sent to redeem the whole world and you are one that claims to believe, so therefore walk in the light as he is in the loight receive this love and thus you are in him, God is not a liar because through his SON the righteous one he sees through him to you and all that believe as already perfefct thus he lives in you to teach you truth from error which I see that you see. This is the mystery that Paul has spoken to all Jesus Christ in you the hope of your glory
In love again and always from God
In love again and always from God
God always gives us a taste or portion of the whole thing, revealing bit by bit, day by day. and when we learn something, as we live everyday, he reveals another thing. when we pray and read his word, He does not show us EVERYTHING but HE gives us what we need to know for the moment, yes!!. and the day after He adds. "Jesus said give us today our DAILY BREAD". indeed it is a continual and everyday word of GOD buffet, but HE directs us on which meal to take, and balances it all out so we dont get spiritual malnutrition.
Sin is transgression of the law, transgressing is not believing or trust on what GOD has put in HIS word concerning our lives.
Oh!! and sometimes we misunderstand GOD, i have, MANY TIMES. sometimes i preach to people, and GOD speaks to me on the very same words that come out of my mouth, and at times i tell people not to sin a certain sin, and basically HE reminds me of mine ai. and what i do, i repent right there and then.
point being, we also move from knowledge to knowledge, and before we speak to people, make sure that message is for the people and not for us
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GOD Bless you all..
i think that was understandable
Sin is transgression of the law, transgressing is not believing or trust on what GOD has put in HIS word concerning our lives.
Oh!! and sometimes we misunderstand GOD, i have, MANY TIMES. sometimes i preach to people, and GOD speaks to me on the very same words that come out of my mouth, and at times i tell people not to sin a certain sin, and basically HE reminds me of mine ai. and what i do, i repent right there and then.
point being, we also move from knowledge to knowledge, and before we speak to people, make sure that message is for the people and not for us
.GOD Bless you all..
i think that was understandable
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Why would Jesus stop leading? He is the good shepherd and His sheep follow Him. Its dangerous to say that He stops leading.
However, when a person dies to self fully 100% everyday sin is no longer a temptation, you loose interest in the enemys games. The Holy Spirit convicts before you even open your mouth to say something wrong, every heart attitude and thought is "filtered" through His holiness and abundant life in Christ takes over. The life He had planned for us before we were born. I am not stupid, I know full well that Jesus did a completed work on the cross to restore us back to the original blue print.
But I do think how you are trying to "teach" others here is bringing confusion and some of your words and "understanding" of scripture has many errors.
However, when a person dies to self fully 100% everyday sin is no longer a temptation, you loose interest in the enemys games. The Holy Spirit convicts before you even open your mouth to say something wrong, every heart attitude and thought is "filtered" through His holiness and abundant life in Christ takes over. The life He had planned for us before we were born. I am not stupid, I know full well that Jesus did a completed work on the cross to restore us back to the original blue print.
But I do think how you are trying to "teach" others here is bringing confusion and some of your words and "understanding" of scripture has many errors.
If you claim to know the scripture then you should know that Jesus has stated plainly how to come to God in getting to know Him personally by coming to the Son in learning of Him.
John 14:[SUP]6 [/SUP]Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me. [SUP]7 [/SUP]If ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also: and from henceforth ye know him, and have seen him.
Matthew 11:[SUP]25 [/SUP]At that time Jesus answered and said, I thank thee, O Father, Lord of heaven and earth, because thou hast hid these things from the wise and prudent, and hast revealed them unto babes. [SUP]26 [/SUP]Even so, Father: for so it seemed good in thy sight. [SUP]27 [/SUP]All things are delivered unto me of my Father: and no man knoweth the Son, but the Father; neither knoweth any man the Father, save the Son, and he to whomsoever the Son will reveal him. [SUP]28 [/SUP]Come unto me, all ye that labour and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest. [SUP]29 [/SUP]Take my yoke upon you, and learn of me; for I am meek and lowly in heart: and ye shall find rest unto your souls. [SUP]30 [/SUP]For my yoke is easy, and my burden is light.
The only way to receive the promise of the permenant indwelling Holy Spirit is by believing in the Son of God and that God raised Him from the dead.
Romans 10:[SUP]8 [/SUP]But what saith it? The word is nigh thee, even in thy mouth, and in thy heart: that is, the word of faith, which we preach; [SUP]9 [/SUP]That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. [SUP]10 [/SUP]For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation. [SUP]11 [/SUP]For the scripture saith, Whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed. [SUP]12 [/SUP]For there is no difference between the Jew and the Greek: for the same Lord over all is rich unto all that call upon him. [SUP]13 [/SUP]For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.
Ephesians 1:[SUP]12 [/SUP]That we should be to the praise of his glory, who first trusted in Christ. [SUP]13 [/SUP]In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise, [SUP]14 [/SUP]Which is the earnest of our inheritance until the redemption of the purchased possession, unto the praise of his glory. [SUP]15 [/SUP]Wherefore I also, after I heard of your faith in the Lord Jesus, and love unto all the saints,
You cannot receive the Spirit by any other way than by faith in Jesus Christ.
Hebrews 11:1Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen. [SUP]2 [/SUP]For by it the elders obtained a good report....[SUP]6 [/SUP]But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him.
Galatians 3:[SUP]14 [/SUP]That the blessing of Abraham might come on the Gentiles through Jesus Christ; that we might receive the promise of the Spirit through faith....[SUP]26 [/SUP]For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus. [SUP]27 [/SUP]For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ. [SUP]28 [/SUP]There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus. [SUP]29 [/SUP]And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.
Once you have received the promise of the Spirit, you will not be asking for that Spirit again.
Luke 11:[SUP]9 [/SUP]And I say unto you, Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you. [SUP]10 [/SUP]For every one that asketh receiveth; and he that seeketh findeth; and to him that knocketh it shall be opened.
That's knocking at the door Whom is Jesus Christ for your information...
John 10:[SUP]7 [/SUP]Then said Jesus unto them again, Verily, verily, I say unto you, I am the door of the sheep.
Continuing and please look for that truth in His words that you will not be asking for the Holy Spirit again.
Luke 11:[SUP]11 [/SUP]If a son shall ask bread of any of you that is a father, will he give him a stone? or if he ask a fish, will he for a fish give him a serpent? [SUP]12 [/SUP]Or if he shall ask an egg, will he offer him a scorpion? [SUP]13 [/SUP]If ye then, being evil, know how to give good gifts unto your children: how much more shall your heavenly Father give the Holy Spirit to them that ask him?
So everytime you ask for the Holy Spirit, no matter what phenomenon you have encountered, that was not the Holy Spirit.
So heed His words in how to receive that promise by going to and believing in the Son because of this truth below.
Romans 8:[SUP]7 [/SUP]Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be. [SUP]8 [/SUP]So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God. [SUP]9 [/SUP]But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.
That law of God is this.
John 14:[SUP]6 [/SUP]Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me. [SUP]7 [/SUP]If ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also: and from henceforth ye know him, and have seen him.
John 14:[SUP]6 [/SUP]Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me. [SUP]7 [/SUP]If ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also: and from henceforth ye know him, and have seen him.
Matthew 11:[SUP]25 [/SUP]At that time Jesus answered and said, I thank thee, O Father, Lord of heaven and earth, because thou hast hid these things from the wise and prudent, and hast revealed them unto babes. [SUP]26 [/SUP]Even so, Father: for so it seemed good in thy sight. [SUP]27 [/SUP]All things are delivered unto me of my Father: and no man knoweth the Son, but the Father; neither knoweth any man the Father, save the Son, and he to whomsoever the Son will reveal him. [SUP]28 [/SUP]Come unto me, all ye that labour and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest. [SUP]29 [/SUP]Take my yoke upon you, and learn of me; for I am meek and lowly in heart: and ye shall find rest unto your souls. [SUP]30 [/SUP]For my yoke is easy, and my burden is light.
The only way to receive the promise of the permenant indwelling Holy Spirit is by believing in the Son of God and that God raised Him from the dead.
Romans 10:[SUP]8 [/SUP]But what saith it? The word is nigh thee, even in thy mouth, and in thy heart: that is, the word of faith, which we preach; [SUP]9 [/SUP]That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. [SUP]10 [/SUP]For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation. [SUP]11 [/SUP]For the scripture saith, Whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed. [SUP]12 [/SUP]For there is no difference between the Jew and the Greek: for the same Lord over all is rich unto all that call upon him. [SUP]13 [/SUP]For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.
Ephesians 1:[SUP]12 [/SUP]That we should be to the praise of his glory, who first trusted in Christ. [SUP]13 [/SUP]In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise, [SUP]14 [/SUP]Which is the earnest of our inheritance until the redemption of the purchased possession, unto the praise of his glory. [SUP]15 [/SUP]Wherefore I also, after I heard of your faith in the Lord Jesus, and love unto all the saints,
You cannot receive the Spirit by any other way than by faith in Jesus Christ.
Hebrews 11:1Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen. [SUP]2 [/SUP]For by it the elders obtained a good report....[SUP]6 [/SUP]But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him.
Galatians 3:[SUP]14 [/SUP]That the blessing of Abraham might come on the Gentiles through Jesus Christ; that we might receive the promise of the Spirit through faith....[SUP]26 [/SUP]For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus. [SUP]27 [/SUP]For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ. [SUP]28 [/SUP]There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus. [SUP]29 [/SUP]And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.
Once you have received the promise of the Spirit, you will not be asking for that Spirit again.
Luke 11:[SUP]9 [/SUP]And I say unto you, Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you. [SUP]10 [/SUP]For every one that asketh receiveth; and he that seeketh findeth; and to him that knocketh it shall be opened.
That's knocking at the door Whom is Jesus Christ for your information...
John 10:[SUP]7 [/SUP]Then said Jesus unto them again, Verily, verily, I say unto you, I am the door of the sheep.
Continuing and please look for that truth in His words that you will not be asking for the Holy Spirit again.
Luke 11:[SUP]11 [/SUP]If a son shall ask bread of any of you that is a father, will he give him a stone? or if he ask a fish, will he for a fish give him a serpent? [SUP]12 [/SUP]Or if he shall ask an egg, will he offer him a scorpion? [SUP]13 [/SUP]If ye then, being evil, know how to give good gifts unto your children: how much more shall your heavenly Father give the Holy Spirit to them that ask him?
So everytime you ask for the Holy Spirit, no matter what phenomenon you have encountered, that was not the Holy Spirit.
So heed His words in how to receive that promise by going to and believing in the Son because of this truth below.
Romans 8:[SUP]7 [/SUP]Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be. [SUP]8 [/SUP]So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God. [SUP]9 [/SUP]But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.
That law of God is this.
John 14:[SUP]6 [/SUP]Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me. [SUP]7 [/SUP]If ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also: and from henceforth ye know him, and have seen him.
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Cobus
1) do you still sin?
2) are you still a human?
THE GOSPEL IS BECAUSE OF AND FOR THOSE WHO ARE 1 & 2.
do you ever plan to submit to the Gospel?
you're a mature man in years, Cobus.
i wouldn't keep putting off just stopping your fanaticism and finding a decent peaceful church and just be baptized and commit to the Lord for life.
i think you're making excuses because you've still got some pet sins you're in bondage to. and plan to hold on to.
the tragedy is, until you OBEY the Gospel you can forget freedom from them.
you're just playing games.
1) do you still sin?
2) are you still a human?
THE GOSPEL IS BECAUSE OF AND FOR THOSE WHO ARE 1 & 2.
do you ever plan to submit to the Gospel?
you're a mature man in years, Cobus.
i wouldn't keep putting off just stopping your fanaticism and finding a decent peaceful church and just be baptized and commit to the Lord for life.
i think you're making excuses because you've still got some pet sins you're in bondage to. and plan to hold on to.
the tragedy is, until you OBEY the Gospel you can forget freedom from them.
you're just playing games.
That was not the Holy Spirit that flashed around Saul and do note that he was not a believer in Jesus Christ at that time yet either. Saul seeing a vision of Jesus Christ was made possible by the Father.
Matthew 11:[SUP]25 [/SUP]At that time Jesus answered and said, I thank thee, O Father, Lord of heaven and earth, because thou hast hid these things from the wise and prudent, and hast revealed them unto babes. [SUP]26 [/SUP]Even so, Father: for so it seemed good in thy sight. [SUP]27 [/SUP]All things are delivered unto me of my Father: and no man knoweth the Son, but the Father; neither knoweth any man the Father, save the Son, and he to whomsoever the Son will reveal him.
John 6:[SUP]44 [/SUP]No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day.
Once the Holy Spirit is in the believer as promised by coming to & believing in Jesus Christ, believers can discern from the real indwelling Holy Spirit and the spirit of the antichrist which is in the world in according to the scripture.
Matthew 11:[SUP]25 [/SUP]At that time Jesus answered and said, I thank thee, O Father, Lord of heaven and earth, because thou hast hid these things from the wise and prudent, and hast revealed them unto babes. [SUP]26 [/SUP]Even so, Father: for so it seemed good in thy sight. [SUP]27 [/SUP]All things are delivered unto me of my Father: and no man knoweth the Son, but the Father; neither knoweth any man the Father, save the Son, and he to whomsoever the Son will reveal him.
John 6:[SUP]44 [/SUP]No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day.
Once the Holy Spirit is in the believer as promised by coming to & believing in Jesus Christ, believers can discern from the real indwelling Holy Spirit and the spirit of the antichrist which is in the world in according to the scripture.
Cobus:
If you are still maintaining that you are not a christian, feel free to share some of your "top" experiences you have been having with the Holy Spirit Whom you have called upon to have "fellowship" with, and maybe.. just maybe.. other believers may see the necessity of why Jesus Christ is the only way to God the Father in living that reconciled relationship with Him... God willing, that is, if He is peradventuring to recover some from the snare of the devil... and you may just learn something too about the Truth Whom is Jesus Christ.
If you are still maintaining that you are not a christian, feel free to share some of your "top" experiences you have been having with the Holy Spirit Whom you have called upon to have "fellowship" with, and maybe.. just maybe.. other believers may see the necessity of why Jesus Christ is the only way to God the Father in living that reconciled relationship with Him... God willing, that is, if He is peradventuring to recover some from the snare of the devil... and you may just learn something too about the Truth Whom is Jesus Christ.