Is The Old Testament Important

[JaumeJ]

Why don't we read what Jesus teaches His disciples?

Luk 24:25 Then he said unto them, O fools, and slow of heart to believe all that the prophets have spoken:

Luk 24:26Ought not Christ to have suffered these things, and to enter into his glory?

Luk 24:27 And beginning at Moses and all the prophets, he expounded unto them in all the scriptures the things concerning himself.

Luk 24:28 And they drew nigh unto the village, whither they went: and he made as though he would have gone further.

Luk 24:29 But they constrained him, saying, Abide with us: for it is toward evening, and the day is far spent. And he went in to tarry with them.

Luk 24:30 And it came to pass, as he sat at meat with them, he took bread, and blessed it, and brake, and gave to them.

Luk 24:31 And their eyes were opened, and they knew him; and he vanished out of their sight.

Luk 24:32 And they said one to another, Did not our heart burn within us, while he talked with us by the way, and while he opened to us the scriptures?

Therefore we see plainly, Yeshua, Himself, explained Moses and the Prophets to His disciples. Now, no one need know the entire Old Testament in order to know our Lord and Savior, Yeshua, but it certainly clarifies the way we know Him, and walk the walk He has given each of us.

 

[RedTent]

Why don't we read what Jesus teaches His disciples?

Luk 24:25 Then he said unto them, O fools, and slow of heart to believe all that the prophets have spoken:

Luk 24:26Ought not Christ to have suffered these things, and to enter into his glory?

Luk 24:27 And beginning at Moses and all the prophets, he expounded unto them in all the scriptures the things concerning himself.

Luk 24:28 And they drew nigh unto the village, whither they went: and he made as though he would have gone further.

Luk 24:29 But they constrained him, saying, Abide with us: for it is toward evening, and the day is far spent. And he went in to tarry with them.

Luk 24:30 And it came to pass, as he sat at meat with them, he took bread, and blessed it, and brake, and gave to them.

Luk 24:31 And their eyes were opened, and they knew him; and he vanished out of their sight.

Luk 24:32 And they said one to another, Did not our heart burn within us, while he talked with us by the way, and while he opened to us the scriptures?

Therefore we see plainly, Yeshua, Himself, explained Moses and the Prophets to His disciples. Now, no one need know the entire Old Testament in order to know our Lord and Savior, Yeshua, but it certainly clarifies the way we know Him, and walk the walk He has given each of us.

Thank you so very much!

I think it clarifies what the epistles say, too. They are all breathed by God, God is eternal. All of what God tells us are from the same source, all are the same.

 

[crossnote]

Why don't we read what Jesus teaches His disciples?

Luk 24:25 Then he said unto them, O fools, and slow of heart to believe all that the prophets have spoken:

Luk 24:26Ought not Christ to have suffered these things, and to enter into his glory?

Luk 24:27 And beginning at Moses and all the prophets, he expounded unto them in all the scriptures the things concerning himself.

Luk 24:28 And they drew nigh unto the village, whither they went: and he made as though he would have gone further.

Luk 24:29 But they constrained him, saying, Abide with us: for it is toward evening, and the day is far spent. And he went in to tarry with them.

Luk 24:30 And it came to pass, as he sat at meat with them, he took bread, and blessed it, and brake, and gave to them.

Luk 24:31 And their eyes were opened, and they knew him; and he vanished out of their sight.

Luk 24:32 And they said one to another, Did not our heart burn within us, while he talked with us by the way, and while he opened to us the scriptures?

Therefore we see plainly, Yeshua, Himself, explained Moses and the Prophets to His disciples. Now, no one need know the entire Old Testament in order to know our Lord and Savior, Yeshua, but it certainly clarifies the way we know Him, and walk the walk He has given each of us.

What do you think Yeshua explained to his disciples that His apostles have not explained to us?

 

[JaumeJ]

What do you think Yeshua explained to his disciples that His apostles have not explained to us?

Simple, as revealed in the text, Yeshua explained how He fulfilled each of the prophesies of Messiah from Genesis right up to John, the Baptizer. He also explained what was written about Him by Moses in the law. As Yeshua teaches, if one believes Moses and the Prophets, they would believe Yeshua, for they wrote about Him.

 

[matt7777777]

When u really take a good look at the old testmeny alot of it is about jesus or forshadowing jesus an i belive the ot is just as importans as nt an we should study both after all both are gods words an both reavel diffrent truths..

 

[crossnote]

Simple, as revealed in the text, Yeshua explained how He fulfilled each of the prophesies of Messiah from Genesis right up to John, the Baptizer. He also explained what was written about Him by Moses in the law. As Yeshua teaches, if one believes Moses and the Prophets, they would believe Yeshua, for they wrote about Him.

That is not what the text says, it says v27 'He expounded unto them in all the scriptures the things concerning Himself'. I think the apostles have passed that onto us. Anything beyond the apostles and the gospels is just guesswork on our part. Perhaps Jesus revealed much more on the road to Emmaus but how will we know what it was ? Church history is full of pulling out types and figures but it is all guesswork apart from divine revelation.

 

[JaumeJ]

That is not what the text says, it says v27 'He expounded unto them in all the scriptures the things concerning Himself'. I think the apostles have passed that onto us. Anything beyond the apostles and the gospels is just guesswork on our part. Perhaps Jesus revealed much more on the road to Emmaus but how will we know what it was ? Church history is full of pulling out types and figures but it is all guesswork apart from divine revelation.

The reference is to the teaching of Yeshua. As you say, He expounded things concerning Himself. If you check back it also says beginning with Moses and the Prophets. There is no error in the comment.

 

[onlinebuddy]

Luk 24:27 And beginning at Moses and all the prophets, he expounded unto them in all the scriptures the things concerning himself.
Listening to Jesus must have been quite mind blowing! No wonder they asked him to stay.

 

[Bookreader]

What did Jesus teach?
What did the disciples teach when he sent them out?

They taught the good news of the Kingdom of God. From the Tanach (OT).
That is how they taught. FROM the OT.

After Christ's death:-
What did the apostles teach?
What did Paul teach?

They taught the good news of the Kingdom of God - and how Jesus made it possible we could be there.

The gospel is
a) the Kingdom of God FROM the OT (taught by Jesus and followers)
b) the resurrection of Jesus as a means to be accepted into the Kingdom of God (using the OT to show how Jesus was the Messiah)

The NT - is a means to an end.
It puts in words what we should know from the OT.

That is why it makes me sad when I hear (as I have) "I was told to start reading the Bible at the Gospel of John"
That is only ever said (or done) by someone wanting to add a doctrine (and those believing what they are told).

I started reading the Bible as an atheist - so from a to b seemed best way as I had no advice to do otherwise.
When I believed it - it became obvious the NT is based almost totally on the OT. In SO many ways.

Things that are in NT that are not backed up by the OT as far as I can see
Paul says - women must wear hats.
Paul says - people shouldn't marry (the human race would fail or at least the followers of Christ)

Paul added a lot of his own opinions in his writing. Sometimes he actually said they were not from God. Other times they may well have applied to the church he was writing to...

It IS clear not all Paul said should be treated as God's opinion.

 

[RachelBibleStudent]

both the old and new testaments are important...

however the new testament has the advantage of spelling out the mysteries plainly...while they are harder to see in the old testament without first knowing what you are looking for...

 

[RedTent]

must[/B] wear hats.
Paul says - people shouldn't marry (the human race would fail or at least the followers of Christ)

Paul added a lot of his own opinions in his writing. Sometimes he actually said they were not from God. Other times they may well have applied to the church he was writing to...

It IS clear not all Paul said should be treated as God's opinion.

Paul isn't easy to understand at all, and sometimes he did say something was from him, not God. When that is so it says so. But otherwise, when it seems that what he says doesn't fit with the rest of God's word it means it needs to be looked at closer because it is God breathed. God principles are eternal, the same at creation and right now.

About the message about hats: There is a deeper spiritual meaning, and also a meaning that you can understand with knowing the culture of the town Paul wrote to. About not marrying, you can read this as saying that God is the most important part of our lives. If Christ would return soon, nothing, even marriage, could be more important. Paul didn't say don't marry, he said "it would be better".

It takes a lot of digging, study and prayer to understand Paul, but it is worth the time and trouble. Sometimes it seems that what he says is different from what God says elsewhere, but with understanding you can be sure that is not so.

From someone on a trip from atheism, you are doing great.

 

[crossnote]

both the old and new testaments are important...

however the new testament has the advantage of spelling out the mysteries plainly...while they are harder to see in the old testament without first knowing what you are looking for...

Correct, otherwise if the disciples knew the Gospel from the ot why didn't it penetrate that he must die and rise again even after repeated announcements by their Lord.

 

[crossnote]

Actually, even Paul's opinion ends up being with God's approval otherwise we have Scripture containing error even if it was only for a local setting.

 

[JaumeJ]

Why is it when Light is shined brightly upon the cross of our Lord, many can only see a star of David? It is a very sad reality in sharing the Word from Genesis to Revelation. Blessed be Yeshua, now and forever, amen.

 

[onlinebuddy]

Luk 24:25 Then he said unto them, O fools, and slow of heart to believe all that the prophets have spoken:

According to Jesus there was a faith (belief) problem. Due to lack of faith, most people cannot see the connection between Moses-and-the-prophets and Jesus.

Could we therefore conclude that the Jews rejected Jesus because of their lack of faith in what Moses and the prophets have said?

What about Moslems???? They say they believe in Moses, but they attribute all the prophecies about Jesus to Mohammed.

 

[JaumeJ]

When our Lord teaches about hypocrisy, He declares those who say they see when they do not, remain with their guilt. Something very enlightening from my Hebrew study shows the word hypocrite as synonomous with godless.

 

[Earlmayknowornot]

Wow. I see that some things get through. where is keeping law. Seeing that Christ is our only means. Thank God, that we finally see that faith in christ is our only way. With our faith in Christ, the Spirit produces in us good works. such as keeping the sabbath and the commandments because otherwise we cannot.