Is the old testament laws still use today?

[waynebo59]

The Scriptures never divide the laws given at Sinai into categories; the Law is a comprehensive unit.

As for those in Christ, we have died to the Law (all of it):

4 Likewise, my brothers, you also have died to the law through the body of Christ, so that you may belong to another, to him who has been raised from the dead, in order that we may bear fruit for God. 5 For while we were living in the flesh, our sinful passions, aroused by the law, were at work in our members to bear fruit for death. 6 But now we are released from the law, having died to that which held us captive, so that we serve in the new way of the Spirit and not in the old way of the written code. (from Rom. 7)​

You can read more about the believer's relationship to the Law here:

• Released/Delivered From the Law and Christ is the End of the Law – Getting Greeky About Romans 7, 10, and Ephesians 2

• Romans 7:1-6 and Spiritual Adultery

-JGIG

That says it all.

 

[just-me]

I would agree that is the point of the vision, however other passages cover this subject including the ones I mentioned above.

This reminds me of an account a pastor in my former fellowship told about. Some teenagers in the church were talking about getting drunk and ordering pizza. The pizza came and it had pepperonis on it...the teenagers self righteously yelled at the delivery guy about bringing them pizza with unclean meats. The irony is obvious..engaged in drunkenness and being so indignant about pork on their pizza.

This is the mentality of some who claim these laws apply, such as a young man who keeps forming new usernames to come in here and call non-Torah observers "false Christians"..he uses bogus information on his details while proclaiming to love the Sabbath. He violates a very apparent moral absolute such as lying in order to judge others who don't observe the Sabbath.

The law is spiritual. and God is spirit. If we all could see things spiritually instead of carnally, we would see that the law is still in effect and learn so much by edifying each other instead of bringing up physical applications to make a carnal point.

Which things also we speak, not in the words which man's wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual. (1 Corinthians 2:13)

It gets old.

 

[Elin]

The law is spiritual. and God is spirit. If we all could see things spiritually instead of carnally, we would see that the law is still in effect

The Mosiac regulations are not still in effect.

The Levitical priesthood has been replaced.
The sacrifices have been replaced.
The Sinaitic Covenant has been replaced.
The Mediator has been replaced.

All have been replaced by that which far exceeds them.