Is the USA still a “God-fearing” nation?

[Markum1972]

Markum, you clearly think this guy is a real prophet.

could you please respond to my post?
thanks.

I've actually never heard a Christian question whether we should bless/support the nation of Israel or not. This would be the first time. I have seen the evidence of what has happened to nations that have risen against Israel before. Nations even before Hitler's rule. I will do as you have asked and search the scriptures.

As for the sins of the nation; having removed God from every corner despite the protest of those that love Him, I think that is clear to see. The result is also clear to see.

I never stated that the creator of this thread was a "prophet". That test of the spirit has not yet taken place. What they heard from the Lord is confirmation on what I was shown 2 years ago (as well as others that I have met). If this person has come to also say that there is no hope for those that turn to the Lord Jesus, then I would agree that they are condemning and not walking in the truth. I have not yet seen evidence of anything like that. I have thus far seen what appears to be a warning such as a watchman would give (Ezekiel 33).

I understand the scriptures that you have posted. I am in agreement that those that are in Christ Jesus are partakers of the promises of Abraham.

I also would like to clarify that I do not present these things for one to be fearful; but prepared by seeking the Lord in all diligence.

I saw some mention a website. If someone could link that, it would be much appreciated.

Jesus Christ is come in the flesh.

 

[Dekote]

No. It's secular meaning all or none have to have the same benifits as the other.
That was the original intent anyway.

 

[zone]

I've actually never heard a Christian question whether we should bless/support the nation of Israel or not. This would be the first time. I have seen the evidence of what has happened to nations that have risen against Israel before. Nations even before Hitler's rule. I will do as you have asked and search the scriptures.

thank you.
i would like to see the (ANY) passages that command us to support the Israeli State or be cursed.

 

[Crazy4GODword]

Okay so like we have people from all over the world complaining how we Americans say we are this holy nation blah blah blah. Well the reason we make a big deal about it is cuz we literally is one of THE only countries that built and founded it's country on Christianity. Not many countries can say that due to the fact european Asian and african and south American countries were converted to Christianity when America was one the was first founded in Christianity. Sure we have indigenous people who were spiritualists and didn't know Christ. But for America we play a part as our first president actually was a devote Christian who went to church and settled with many other great representatives in Christianity indulging I'm it before it became
An official country. Our patriarchs stood on the word of God as America was becoming a nation. Other countries mainly almost every single country cannot say the same. The apostles taught the world of Europe and Asia and Africa Christianity after they made themselves nations. We did it before we were a nation. Europe and the rest were pagan nation who were converted, we started this country automatically on the word (after the colonial period of the 13 colonies etc.) On top of that we play a dominant role in society all around the world. So we stand for those two things and we make a bigger difference in the world than most countries out there. We influence, we inspire, we learn and share, we make a difference. Somehow we are now indulging ourselves in worldly affairs instead of what God wants. We were like israel by having God make us a nation while we had Him instead of converting a nation who before were pagans (like the rest of the world)

 

[Markum1972]

Okay so like we have people from all over the world complaining how we Americans say we are this holy nation blah blah blah. Well the reason we make a big deal about it is cuz we literally is one of THE only countries that built and founded it's country on Christianity. Not many countries can say that due to the fact european Asian and african and south American countries were converted to Christianity when America was one the was first founded in Christianity. Sure we have indigenous people who were spiritualists and didn't know Christ. But for America we play a part as our first president actually was a devote Christian who went to church and settled with many other great representatives in Christianity indulging I'm it before it became
An official country. Our patriarchs stood on the word of God as America was becoming a nation. Other countries mainly almost every single country cannot say the same. The apostles taught the world of Europe and Asia and Africa Christianity after they made themselves nations. We did it before we were a nation. Europe and the rest were pagan nation who were converted, we started this country automatically on the word (after the colonial period of the 13 colonies etc.) On top of that we play a dominant role in society all around the world. So we stand for those two things and we make a bigger difference in the world than most countries out there. We influence, we inspire, we learn and share, we make a difference. Somehow we are now indulging ourselves in worldly affairs instead of what God wants. We were like israel by having God make us a nation while we had Him instead of converting a nation who before were pagans (like the rest of the world)

The United States and Israel are the only nations that were consecrated to God. You don't take back that which is given to God.

 

[Crazy4GODword]

The United States and Israel are the only nations that were consecrated to God. You don't take back that which is given to God.

Exactly. Remember out of all the nations of the world, God punished Israel for their sins like a father who disciplines his child. Because if the father has a first born he expects the child to know how to behave and treats that child as special. Well America has be endowed with the same, since we are like a first born because our first leader and government stood on God's word we are like a child who should know how to act. Just as He disipline His son Israel I can see the same for us.

 

[CDavid]

[h=2]Is the USA still a “God-fearing” nation?[/h]Not sense the 60s.

 

[Markum1972]

thank you.
i would like to see the (ANY) passages that command us to support the Israeli State or be cursed.

This may not be the answer that you are looking for, yet it is the answer.

The land; not the state, is an inheritance to God's people.

Genesis 3
[SUP]7 [/SUP]And the Lord appeared unto Abram, and said, Unto thy seed will I give this land: and there builded he an altar unto the Lord, who appeared unto him.

God calls the land there HIS. Ezekiel 36

God has a remnant in Israel.

Islam seeks to destroy that remnant declaring that all Christians and Jews are the enemy of Allah because they deny him. The new Egyptian president specified "Israel" (Jewish founded) and the "United States" (Christian founded) are the first targets of Islam (this was in the news and you should still be able to find the broadcast on YouTube).

For those that do not know it, Islam declares that the seed of Isaac was not the heir of the promises of God but say that it was Ishmael instead. They claim that Jesus was only a prophet but that Muhammad was the great prophet and that the Mahdi (who they claim will be revealed when Israel is overtaken) is their Messiah. According to the Qu'Ran, when the Mahdi is revealed all of Islam must rise up together and destroy the infidel (all of those that deny Allah as the true god). You might also find it interesting to note that the description of the Mahdi in the Qu'Ran is the same as the description of the man of perdition (called by many the Antichrist) in scripture.

Islam intends to make Jerusalem its capital and says that Mount Zion is the rightful place of their mosque. Which is exactly where The Dome of the Rock is currently sitting today. However, it is actually the rightful place of the temple that God told Solomon to build (and he did so but it was destroyed).

So as children of God, are we to support the nation that has a remnant of God's people? Or are we to turn our backs on them and allow the land to be given over to an enemy that seeks to destroy God's people? God forbid. Therefore, would we not be blessed to support them and cursed to not do so?

God said that Mount Zion was set apart from the rest of the earth and that this place was His. It is holy. How then could one turn their backs on those that keep it and intend on restoring it to God's purpose instead of letting it be given over to the enemy?

Nevertheless, it is written in Daniel, Joel, Zephaniah, Zechariah, etc... that Mount Zion will be overtaken by the enemy. It will be our Lord Jesus Christ that shall return and restore it.

Ezekiel 36 expounds on the land, Israel (the people), how they are scattered to the nations of the heathens but then gathered into the land again.

God said that He would keep and restore the tribe of Judah (the Jews). Do you think they will receive Him when He returns? I believe that many will. Many Jews receive Jesus as the Messiah now.

Now, with that being said. I never said that you will be cursed if you do not support Israel.

The United States as a nation not doing so for the first time in its history is manifestation of the nation as a whole turning its back on God and not seeking the will of the Father. What I said is that this act will be its final act that will seal its fate (it will be the full manifestation of its turning its back on God). Once Israel is taken, the United States will be Islam's next target. This is only one of the plagues that come upon the nation.

Speaking to brother's and sister's in Christ, I would say to not be fearful (Psalm 91), but be warned so that you may be prepared (Ezekiel 33).

Daniel 2
[SUP]22 [/SUP]He revealeth the deep and secret things: he knoweth what is in the darkness, and the light dwelleth with him.

 

[Markum1972]

These self proclaimed prophets are 'bold' in cyberspace but nowhere to be found in the marketplace.

I have seen no one here proclaim them self to be a prophet.

I would also recommend finding another gathering place (church) if you are not encountering apostles, prophets, evangelists, pastors, and teachers. It is essential for perfection, working of the ministry, and edification. Ephesians 4:11-12

 

[JaumeJ]

I see lots of God fearing people around the world, but in all honesty, I cannot say I know of any God fearing nation today. This is what I see.[/FONT]

 

[unclefester]

I have seen no one here proclaim them self to be a prophet.

I would also recommend finding another gathering place (church) if you are not encountering apostles, prophets, evangelists, pastors, and teachers. It is essential for perfection, working of the ministry, and edification. Ephesians 4:11-12

Really ? Wow ! Are these apostles (todays) to be crucified upside down, beheaded and burnt at the stake too ? Are people being healed when they cross these apostles shadow path ? Where can I find their divinely inspired written words ? Woo-hoo ... I'm pumped ! Those old apostles were getting boring.

 

[psychomom]

Really ? Wow ! Are these apostles (todays) to be crucified upside down, beheaded and burnt at the stake too ? Are people being healed when they cross these apostles shadow path ? Where can I find their divinely inspired written words ? Woo-hoo ... I'm pumped ! Those old apostles were getting boring.

oh, fes, surely you know the Bible is all about us?

 

[Markum1972]

Really ? Wow ! Are these apostles (todays) to be crucified upside down, beheaded and burnt at the stake too ? Are people being healed when they cross these apostles shadow path ? Where can I find their divinely inspired written words ? Woo-hoo ... I'm pumped ! Those old apostles were getting boring.

I don't understand your statement. There are many being persecuted and killed for the sake of the Word throughout the earth. Last I checked it was about 20 Christians that are martyred per hour. All of this is information is available to the public. Since Egypt's recent turn, the statistics have increased. Just because it is not commonplace in your nation is not just cause to say it is not happening.

And yes, people are being healed. I can personally testify of this as well as many other acts of God's greatness.

As far as the divinely written words goes; nothing has changed. Those letters you seek are in the hands of churches throughout the earth. Written to bring encouragement and correction to the churches and to confront the specific struggles that they are facing.

I personally know an Apostle of Christ from Australia whose name ironically enough is Paul. He has spent much time in China establishing churches, passing out bibles, among other things. He has been stoned to near death and returned to Australia. The Lord restored and healed him and he went right back to China, as God instructed, a month later.

God is the same forevermore. Do not become a mocker and scoffer and walk in doubt and unbelief. I am perplexed by the number of people that claim to be Christians and yet walk in unbelief towards the acts of God because they may have not witnessed it with their own eyes. Are we not to walk by faith instead of by sight?

 

[hattiebod]

Okay so like we have people from all over the world complaining how we Americans say we are this holy nation blah blah blah. Well the reason we make a big deal about it is cuz we literally is one of THE only countries that built and founded it's country on Christianity. Not many countries can say that due to the fact european Asian and african and south American countries were converted to Christianity when America was one the was first founded in Christianity. Sure we have indigenous people who were spiritualists and didn't know Christ. But for America we play a part as our first president actually was a devote Christian who went to church and settled with many other great representatives in Christianity indulging I'm it before it became
An official country. Our patriarchs stood on the word of God as America was becoming a nation. Other countries mainly almost every single country cannot say the same. The apostles taught the world of Europe and Asia and Africa Christianity after they made themselves nations. We did it before we were a nation. Europe and the rest were pagan nation who were converted, we started this country automatically on the word (after the colonial period of the 13 colonies etc.) On top of that we play a dominant role in society all around the world. So we stand for those two things and we make a bigger difference in the world than most countries out there. We influence, we inspire, we learn and share, we make a difference. Somehow we are now indulging ourselves in worldly affairs instead of what God wants. We were like israel by having God make us a nation while we had Him instead of converting a nation who before were pagans (like the rest of the world)

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