Is There Any Future Resurrection for the Cremated?

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presidente

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Is There Any Future Resurrection for the Cremated?
God can sort it out. I believe it was John Huss who was burned and his ashes scattered in a river. I read that Nero made 'human candles' out of Christians, burning them, cruelly.

But burying is the historical custom of Jews and Christians. Pagans burned bodies-- the pagan Greeks, the pagan Norse, pagan Hindus.

So I don't want to be cremated. Keeping bodies and bones in the ground seems to me to be in line with a mindset of awaiting the resurrection.
 

Ahwatukee

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Is There Any Future Resurrection for the Cremated?
Hello Geshtinanna!

Most assuredly those who were cremated will be resurrected. Regardless of what happened to the body of a believer, the Lord will reanimate them from the dust of the earth, regardless of whether their bodies were burned or returned to the dust of the earth, drowned etc. For all things are possible with God and He is able to reanimate them and will do so at the resurrection of the church. Not only that, but those believers who are still alive when the resurrection takes place, since they will still be alive in their mortal bodies, will be transform into their immortal and glorified bodies, in a moment of time to short to divide. That is how quickly the event will take place.

Regarding your question, remember we are talking about God Almighty here who created all things and with whom all things are possible and nothing is impossible.
 

TheLearner

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Standard funerals here in the USA are anti green. The figures below
represent chemicals and construction materials consumed on account of,
and/or buried with, America's dead in just one calendar year.


» 30,000,000+ board feet of hardwoods

» 100,000+ tons of bronze, steel, and copper

» 1,000,000+ tons of concrete.

» 1,000,000+ gallons of formaldehyde

Not to mention the existing 2,000,000+ acres of land prepared for
cemeteries maintained with pesticides, herbicides, fungicides, and petro
chemical fertilizers which eventually leach into the soil and into our water
sources.


We are literally killing the planet to honor our dead. And the irony of it all--
the sublime irony --is that the reason half of us go to funerals is to pay our
respects to people we couldn't be bothered with when they were alive.
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100,000+ tons of bronze, steel, and copper

Where can I get hold of the left over scrap metal from all that? :)
 

TheLearner

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According to Dan 12:2, and John 5:28-29 there is but one resurrection
allotted per person; which means that nobody is coming back from the lake
fire because they will use up their one allotted resurrection in order to face
justice at the Great White Throne event depicted at Rev 20:11-15.


Termination in the lake is not only the second death, but also the permanent
death.
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TheLearner

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Amen I don’t think cremating the natural body is going to eliminate the spiritual one that is the resurrection body

“So also is the resurrection of the dead. It is sown in corruption; it is raised in incorruption:

It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body.”
‭‭1 Corinthians‬ ‭15:42, 44‬ ‭KJV‬‬
Christian believer spiritual part is in Paradise now days(2 Cor 12). The other spiritual parts are in the grave see Isaiah 14.
 

TheLearner

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God can sort it out. I believe it was John Huss who was burned and his ashes scattered in a river. I read that Nero made 'human candles' out of Christians, burning them, cruelly.

But burying is the historical custom of Jews and Christians. Pagans burned bodies-- the pagan Greeks, the pagan Norse, pagan Hindus.

So I don't want to be cremated. Keeping bodies and bones in the ground seems to me to be in line with a mindset of awaiting the resurrection.
https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/stone-age-crematorium-found-israel-180975574/
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2020/08/200812144129.htm
 

Pilgrimshope

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Christian believer spiritual part is in Paradise now days(2 Cor 12). The other spiritual parts are in the grave see Isaiah 14.
What’s the grave ? Isn’t it a place for a dead body ? And how did the rich man end up alive in hell begging for water and for someone to send someone to warn his still living family so they didn’t come into hell where he was in torments ?
 

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God can sort it out. I believe it was John Huss who was burned and his ashes scattered in a river. I read that Nero made 'human candles' out of Christians, burning them, cruelly.

But burying is the historical custom of Jews and Christians. Pagans burned bodies-- the pagan Greeks, the pagan Norse, pagan Hindus.

So I don't want to be cremated. Keeping bodies and bones in the ground seems to me to be in line with a mindset of awaiting the resurrection.
Traditional Jews to this day bury their dead in Kosher pine boxes with holes drilled in the bottom so that the body naturally decays, rots.
What of that?
We were dust from the beginning. Unto dust we shall return. Cremation hastens that and turns us to ashes. Ashes and dust.
Embalming the body is referred to in Genesis with regard to Joseph and his father. What is embalming save for pagan, as was the tradition of the Egyptians. (Genesis 50) Today, at least in America, it is not compulsory for those buried.
17 Bible verses- Cremation

Genesis 3:19 " By the sweat of your face you shall eat bread, till you return to the ground, for out of it you were taken; for you are dust, and to dust you shall return.”
 

Aaron56

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Let's not forget it's called -The Resurrection of the dead, not- The Resurrection of the buried & entombed,
When I was young, I thought is was the “resurrection of the rad“ so I learned to skateboard and wore sequin shoes. Turns out it was a bad translation. Still have the shoes though. (j/k)
 

JTB

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Is There Any Future Resurrection for the Cremated?
Matter cannot be created or destroyed, so even if the flesh is changed into ashes it's atomic particles still exists. And for reasons too long to go into here and now, I believe the resurrection occurs at the atomic or even sub-atomic level.
 

Katia

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Amen I don’t think cremating the natural body is going to eliminate the spiritual one that is the resurrection body

“So also is the resurrection of the dead. It is sown in corruption; it is raised in incorruption:

It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body.”
‭‭1 Corinthians‬ ‭15:42, 44‬ ‭KJV‬‬
We will not get answers for some questions until we are in glory.
 

Magenta

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Yeah, but you come back looking like the vampire chick from the Netflix Dracula series.
Getting cremated is a bad idea. Also, if your corpse is mummified, you are stuck that way forever, too.
:oops:
 

Aaron56

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The natural law of Conservation of Matter states that matter cannot be created or destroyed, only changed. So, even those killed by a nuclear blast remain in molecular form. From that, God can resurrect a saint with a new body.
 

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Watch for the deliberate misquote in the passage below.

1 Cor 15:42-44 . . So will it be with the resurrection of the dead. The body
that is sown is perishable, it is raised imperishable; it is sown in dishonor, it
is raised in glory; it is sown in weakness, it is raised in power; it is sown a
natural body, it is raised a spirit body.

Catch the misquote? Well; there is no mention of a spirit body in the that
passage. The actual word is "spiritual".

The Greek word translated "spiritual" is ambiguous. It doesn't necessarily
refer to the characteristics of thin air. Below is a list of spiritual things that
bear absolutely no resemblance whatsoever to the bodily chemistry of an
angel or a demon.

Spiritual gifts (Rom 1:11)
Spiritual law (Rom 7:14)
Spiritual things (Rom 15:27)
Spiritual people (1Cor 2:15)
Spiritual nourishment (1Cor 10:3)
Spiritual water (1Cor 10:4)
Spiritual rock (1Cor 10:4)
Spiritual counselors (Gal 6:1)
Spiritual blessings (Eph 1:3)
Spiritual music (Eph 5:19)
Spiritual understanding (Col 1:9)
Spiritual housing (1Pet 2:5)
Spiritual sacrifices (1Pet 2:5)

There are some other things in addition to immortality that are known about
the spiritual body.

1» The spiritual body is patterned after Christ's glorified body.

Phil 3:20-21 . .Our citizenship is in heaven. And we eagerly await a savior
from there, the Lord Jesus Christ, who, by the power that enables him to
bring everything under his control, will transform our lowly bodies so that
they will be like his glorious body.

2» The spiritual body is capable of dining upon ordinary foods and
beverages.

Matt 26:29 . . I tell you: I will not drink of this fruit of the vine from now
on until that day when I drink it anew with you in my Father's kingdom.

Luke 22:15-16 . . I have eagerly desired to eat this Passover with you
before I suffer. For I tell you: I will not eat it again until it finds fulfillment in
the kingdom of God.

Luke 22:28-30 . . However, you are the ones that have stuck with me in
my trials; and I make a covenant with you, just as my Father has made a
covenant with me, for a kingdom, that you may eat and drink at my table in
my kingdom,

3» The spiritual body is visible to the naked eye.

Acts 1:11 . . Men of Galilee, why do you stand looking into the sky? This
Jesus, who has been taken up from you into heaven, will come in just the
same way as you have watched him go into heaven.

Rev 1:7 . . Behold, he is coming with the clouds, and every eye will see
him, even those who pierced him
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The natural law of Conservation of Matter states that matter cannot be created or destroyed, only changed. So, even those killed by a nuclear blast remain in molecular form. From that, God can resurrect a saint with a new body.
Matter can only change form. physicist also say: All Things Are Holy
 

Webers.Home

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Luke 16:19-31 tells of three men in the afterlife. One of them is said to be in
a place translated from the Greek word Haides (hah'-dace).

Haides is sometimes interpreted as the grave. Well; if that's case, then I
would like someone to explain to me how it is that one corpse in its grave is
able to communicate with another corpse over in its grave. And just how is it
that a corpse able to speak when it's deceased?
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Pilgrimshope

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We will not get answers for some questions until we are in glory.
amen I agree with that

“For we know in part, and we prophesy in part. But when that which is perfect is come, then that which is in part shall be done away.

When I was a child, I spake as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child: but when I became a man, I put away childish things. For now we see through a glass, darkly; but then face to face: now I know in part; but then shall I know even as also I am known.

And now abideth faith, hope, charity, these three; but the greatest of these is charity.”
‭‭1 Corinthians‬ ‭13:9-13‬ ‭

but some questions seem to remain in each of us that we always seek for answers

I think for me cremation remains because some of my loved ones were cremated so it just sort of always sits somewhere and I wonder because there is no clear answers that I myself have found

but find that all thkngs are possible for God and it rests in hope