Is this satanic?

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Huckleberry

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So.... my sister who has encountered Ghosts in her room showed me something that kind of freaks me out. you see she listens to pretty much everything her bus driver says and he is into some really weird stuff, talking about how her soul has the power of fire or something like that. and he gave her some instructions to keep things away and well... it seems satanic to me but I wanted to know for sure. so here it is titled: Spell to make Ghosts exit rooms, first grab apple. second take apple to the middle of the room and hold apple out and turn starting with north, south east west. third put apple in the middle of room and cut it into four slices. then pick it up holding all sides and say to the power of that B( whatever that means) to the power of that b set this room free.
Drop apple and bury seed.

any ideas?
Is your sister a minor?
If so, you should inform your parents that the bus driver is exerting dangerous influence on her.
Not dangerous in a superstitious way, but in an overall spiritual way.
The guy sounds like a voodoo doctor.
Your sister need to be taught that Christ, not witchcraft, protects us from demons.

One man's opinion.
 
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Is your sister a minor?
If so, you should inform your parents that the bus driver is exerting dangerous influence on her.
Not dangerous in a superstitious way, but in an overall spiritual way.
The guy sounds like a voodoo doctor.
Your sister need to be taught that Christ, not witchcraft, protects us from demons.

One man's opinion.
Well the schools be teaching children about him.

John Chapman (September 26, 1774 – March 11, 1845), often called Johnny Appleseed, was an American pioneer nurseryman who introduced apple trees to large parts of Pennsylvania, Ohio, Indiana, and Illinois, including the northern counties of present day West Virginia. He became an American legend while still alive, due to his kind, generous ways, his leadership in conservation, and the symbolic importance he attributed to apples. He was also a missionary for The New Church (Swedenborgian).[SUP][1]
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Huckleberry

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So.... my sister who has encountered Ghosts in her room showed me something that kind of freaks me out. you see she listens to pretty much everything her bus driver says and he is into some really weird stuff, talking about how her soul has the power of fire or something like that. and he gave her some instructions to keep things away and well... it seems satanic to me but I wanted to know for sure. so here it is titled: Spell to make Ghosts exit rooms, first grab apple. second take apple to the middle of the room and hold apple out and turn starting with north, south east west. third put apple in the middle of room and cut it into four slices. then pick it up holding all sides and say to the power of that B( whatever that means) to the power of that b set this room free.
Drop apple and bury seed.

any ideas?
After re-reading this, it occurred to me that the "B" is Beelzebub.

Yes, it's Satanic.
 

Huckleberry

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Well the schools be teaching children about him.

John Chapman (September 26, 1774 – March 11, 1845), often called Johnny Appleseed, was an American pioneer nurseryman who introduced apple trees to large parts of Pennsylvania, Ohio, Indiana, and Illinois, including the northern counties of present day West Virginia. He became an American legend while still alive, due to his kind, generous ways, his leadership in conservation, and the symbolic importance he attributed to apples. He was also a missionary for The New Church (Swedenborgian).[SUP][1]
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Johnny Appleseed - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
John Freshwater, Ohio Science Teacher, Still Fired For Preaching And Keeping Bible In Class


John Freshwater, Ohio Science Teacher, Still Fired For Preaching And Keeping Bible In Class
Congratulations!
You were just added to my ignore list.

RUKM?
 
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MaggieMye

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OP: It's total BS. ONLY the Name of Jesus has any authority over the demonic. She is playing with fire and WILL get burned if not successfully redirected. You might want to inform her that the CREATOR, who created ALL has power over all and He has given ONLY Believers that same power through His Son, Jesus Christ.
Maggie
 

my_adonai_

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So.... my sister who has encountered Ghosts in her room showed me something that kind of freaks me out. you see she listens to pretty much everything her bus driver says and he is into some really weird stuff, talking about how her soul has the power of fire or something like that. and he gave her some instructions to keep things away and well... it seems satanic to me but I wanted to know for sure. so here it is titled: Spell to make Ghosts exit rooms, first grab apple. second take apple to the middle of the room and hold apple out and turn starting with north, south east west. third put apple in the middle of room and cut it into four slices. then pick it up holding all sides and say to the power of that B( whatever that means) to the power of that b set this room free.
Drop apple and bury seed.

any ideas?
Show those demons the door

Mar 16:17 And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues;
Mar 16:18 They shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover.

And anything ungodly is satanic...
 
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Congratulations!
You were just added to my ignore list.

RUKM?
1 Corinthians 14:38But if anyone ignores this, they will themselves be ignored.

I'm not kidding... This man is having a harmless conversation with a child that's probably wanting attention, and he's probably doesn't want to ignore her, but he entertains her with tales and myths. But instead you want to crucified him. All my life as a child, I heard lots of stories that are told by teachers, especially the Librarians. But if you want to get upset at someone, you should go down to the school board and complain to them not allowing the school's faculty to speak about the scriptures. But I know you are not going to do that, because you doesn't want to get lock-up for Christ.

Mark 14:31
But Peter insisted emphatically, “Even if I have to die with you, I will never disown you.” And all the others said the same.
 

mystdancer50

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I have to disagree. It isn't harmless. Playing around with demonic things is never harmless. The world made Ouiji boards a game. Seriously?

Johnny Appleseed doesn't compare to telling a little girl to use apples to remove demons. Just saying. I learned all those "Tall Tales" as a child and I never once was told to use an apple or two to scare away a demon...just to keep doctors away.
 
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I have to disagree. It isn't harmless. Playing around with demonic things is never harmless. The world made Ouiji boards a game. Seriously?

Johnny Appleseed doesn't compare to telling a little girl to use apples to remove demons. Just saying. I learned all those "Tall Tales" as a child and I never once was told to use an apple or two to scare away a demon...just to keep doctors away.
I haven't heard of any tales about apples, but he told her to hold the apple north, south, east, and west. To me it sounds as if he was trying to tell her to make the sign of the cross without saying any religious rituals. I guess he was doing it in a sneaky way, because if he get caught talking about religion in school, he's going to be out of a job. And so he had her to bless the room quietly. I think the Catholics uses burning sage making the sign of the cross in each room. But would it look right for a child to play with matches?
 

mystdancer50

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I would never tell a child to light up sage to 'ward' away demons. That sounds like a native american thing, moreso than a Catholic thing. Honestly, I don't buy the whole 'make a cross with an apple' theory you have. It seems to me that you're just trying really, really hard to make his advice sound logical rather than the foolishness that it is.

Simple enough: you're being attacked/assaulted by demons...speak the name of Jesus, the power of the blood and rebuke them. Enough said.
 
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ServantStrike

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After re-reading this, it occurred to me that the "B" is Beelzebub.

Yes, it's Satanic.
Ah, yes that could be.

I was thinking this might be the common goddess worship nonsense in modern witchcraft and the b stood for female dog. Or that it was trash talking the unclean spirits (which is about the worst thing you can do - even as a Christian you shouldn't taunt them, our only power is that which Christ gave us - not power that we gave ourselves).
 
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I would never tell a child to light up sage to 'ward' away demons. That sounds like a native american thing, moreso than a Catholic thing. Honestly, I don't buy the whole 'make a cross with an apple' theory you have. It seems to me that you're just trying really, really hard to make his advice sound logical rather than the foolishness that it is.

Simple enough: you're being attacked/assaulted by demons...speak the name of Jesus, the power of the blood and rebuke them. Enough said.
That's the parents job, not the bus driver. He could of told her to rotate the apple clockwise, but he didn't. But if you are still willing to nail the driver to the cross, then go ahead.


 
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Ah, yes that could be.

I was thinking this might be the common goddess worship nonsense in modern witchcraft and the b stood for female dog. Or that it was trash talking the unclean spirits (which is about the worst thing you can do - even as a Christian you shouldn't taunt them, our only power is that which Christ gave us - not power that we gave ourselves).
Or he could be referring to the power of the B for Bible. it is to bad that you can't said that on schools ground.
 

Blain

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My sister is uh... confused. she claims to have recently be saved but refuses to give up her love for girls and is still kind of into witchcraft, plus she doesn't seem to really have been saved. she does things without having her heart in it to please others, and for attention
 

mystdancer50

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That's the parents job, not the bus driver. He could of told her to rotate the apple clockwise, but he didn't. But if you are still willing to nail the driver to the cross, then go ahead.


Wow. Such disrespectful response. I would never nail someone to the cross. That is offensive. My Savior laid down His life for me on a cross. It is more than just a statement or something to say.
 
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Wow. Such disrespectful response. I would never nail someone to the cross. That is offensive. My Savior laid down His life for me on a cross. It is more than just a statement or something to say.
Maybe I should come over to your side, because mine savior told me to do this,

Matthew 10:38
Whoever does not take up their cross and follow me is not worthy of me.

Matthew 5:11
“Blessed are you when people insult you, persecute you and falsely say all kinds of evil against you because of me.

Tell me over on your side, does it has a very hot Jacuzzi?
 

mystdancer50

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Well, I guess I'll follow suit of others and add you to my ignore list. Disrespectful people are a waste of my time.
 
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danschance

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I would never recommend burning a bundle of sage. For one reason, you can't find them at a Catholic bookstore but you find them at new age or occult shops. The way to get rid of a ghost/demons from a room is to remove the reason why it is there. I know a story where a man allowed a satanist into his house. After she left, the man of the house was felt led to look under her bed but chose to ignore it. After several nights of having a shadow spirit walking thru the hallways, he decided to look under the bed that the satanist had slept in. He found her black robes and some other items. Once he threw them into the trash the shadow spirit never returned.

Here is a brief list of things a Christian do to help stop a ghost/demon from harrasing you.

1) Before you do anything, find out about the history of the house. Ask neighbors about the history of the house or go to the library or even historical groups who might be able to tell you details. Ask God to show you what happened in this house that needs to be dealt with. What you are looking for is sins that have happened on the property and keep a detailed list. Look for acts of violence, crimes, tragic accidents and acts performed by the occult.

Once you find out what the sin is that allowed the demonic in pray this prayer in the location that the sin was committed. “Lord Jesus I ask that You forgive and remit ( add detail of the sin or sins here) in Jesus name. I ask that You would cleanse this (location) with Your holy blood and wash away the sins that have stained (location), in Jesus name. Then say this “ All demons that have lost their legal rights, I command you to leave this place and never return, in Jesus name.

2) If you have just moved in to a place then clean up all the previous occupants stuff. Clean up every nook and cranny. Throw away everything you can that is not nailed down that some left behind. Go to the basement and toss out everything. Remove old stickers, pictures and furniture.

3) Ask God to show you if there is anything else that needs to be tossed out. Generally if you get a creepy feeling from an object, toss it out. Also go thru your own belongings and toss out everything that God would not be pleased with.

4) Get a small bottle of cooking oil (doesn't matter what type, but I prefer olive oil) and say this prayer:
Lord Jesus I ask that you bless this oil and purify it. I ask that You make suitable for anointing my home, in Jesus name.

5) Open all doors and windows and start at the furthest place away from the front door then pray this prayer: Lord I ask that You forgive those who have sinned in this place. I ask that you forgive (Here is where you will need the list of sins. Go to each room you think the sin(s) were committed) and wash away the memory of the sin committed. We ask that You bless this room and let Your peace fill it. Lord let all who enter here find Your peace. Lord I ask that you send as many angels to this room as you see fit to ensure that no one is disturbed in anyway. (add what ever you wish here) I break all curses that have been placed on this room, in Jesus name. I command all demons that have lost their legal rights to leave this room and go where ever Jesus commands you to go, in Jesus name Amen. Then anoint each door way and window frame with the blessed oil.

6) When you are done in each room go outside and say this prayer: Lord Jesus I ask that You forgive all those who have sinned against this home and this land. I forgive those who have defiled this house and land with their sins. I ask that You forgive those who have lived in this place and those who have defiled it thru their sins and forgive all their sins. I now ask that you cleanse this home and this land with Your Holy blood and wash all evil away, in Jesus name.
 
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Tintin

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A bundle of sage is just that, a bunch of herbs tied together. If you give the enemy the power, they'll take it. If you just burn the sage for the smell or something, I don't know - than I don't see a problem with it.
Also, what's the deal with opening doors and windows of the home when anointing it? Demons are spirit beings, they can pass through physical properties, if need be. Or is it more symbolic, to help us as people to understand and make sense of the demons being cast out?
 
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Kerry

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The cross people, the cross and not the wooden beam but what Christ did.