Is Universalsim in Opposition to the Bible?

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Do you think there could be any way that a compromise between the doctrine of universalism and the teachings of the Bible could exist?
 
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Do you think there could be any way that a compromise between the doctrine of universalism and the teachings of the Bible could exist?
NO------
It is according to the Word or it is heresy.
 
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Do you think there could be any way that a compromise between the doctrine of universalism and the teachings of the Bible could exist?
No

No one comes to the father but through me


If anyone teach another gospel. They are to be accursed.

Universalism says there are many ways to come to the father.
 

jaybird88

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Do you think there could be any way that a compromise between the doctrine of universalism and the teachings of the Bible could exist?
what is the doctrine of universalism?
 
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No

No one comes to the father but through me

If anyone teach another gospel. They are to be accursed.

Universalism says there are many ways to come to the father.
I need to say that I do believe that Jesus is the only way to the Father. I wonder if you believe it is possible that all men will come to the Father through Jesus.
 
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I need to say that I do believe that Jesus is the only way to the Father. I wonder if you believe it is possible that all men will come to the Father through Jesus.
No.

After death their is judgment, Whoever does not come to jesus by then loses all hope.

Everyone will believe in Jesus when they meet him face to face. But by then, if they said no. its to late
 
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No.

After death their is judgment, Whoever does not come to jesus by then loses all hope.

Everyone will believe in Jesus when they meet him face to face. But by then, if they said no. its to late
Just because judgement comes after death does not mean it lasts forever. The bible states that anyone that calls upon Jesus will be saved (Romans 10:13).
 
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Just because judgement comes after death does not mean it lasts forever. The bible states that anyone that calls upon Jesus will be saved (Romans 10:13).
That promise only stands in this lifetime, Once you pass this lifetime, Your chance to call out is gone.

Hell is eternal. It is made for Satan and his angels.. All who reject christ in this lifetime will join him there, day and night forever. There will be weepeing and nashing of teeth.
 
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That promise only stands in this lifetime, Once you pass this lifetime, Your chance to call out is gone.

Hell is eternal. It is made for Satan and his angels.. All who reject christ in this lifetime will join him there, day and night forever. There will be weepeing and nashing of teeth.
Whenever the Bible says "forever" or "everlasting" the greek word aiónios is being translated. Strong's Greek defines this word as "age-long, eternal."



This means that whenever verses about hell say "forever" they may mean age-long.



An age is a temporary amount of time.



This weeping and nashing of teeth you describe does not have to go on forever.
 

CharliRenee

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Well if everyone was universally onboard for Yeshua, our Lord and Savior. If everyone belonged to Him, sure then universalism would be so biblical. But as it is, we either are with Him or we are not, we can not unify with opposing beliefs. It just is a conflict of His interests. With that in mind, vengeance is His. We are to stand in our truth and love our enemies. Love doesn't mean, though, that we invest who we are or our time, faith and principles with those that oppose Christ. Because there are many lost souls that need our seed planted, though, we have to walk with grace and love, shining the light of Him, appealing for ultimate cause of Yahweh. We need His help and direction to get us and as many others possible where we need to be...on His Journey, leading us home.
 

Lillywolf

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Do you think there could be any way that a compromise between the doctrine of universalism and the teachings of the Bible could exist?
With all the denominations that exist and all sustained by scripture, including Calvinism, why not?

I think if you want to find out about Universalism you should maybe look into those Reverends that teach the Gospel of Inclusion.
This is one such person.

 

Lillywolf

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Just because judgement comes after death does not mean it lasts forever. The bible states that anyone that calls upon Jesus will be saved (Romans 10:13).
Do you then believe there is a scripture that tells us after death those that died in their sins can be saved?
 
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Whenever the Bible says "forever" or "everlasting" the greek word aiónios is being translated. Strong's Greek defines this word as "age-long, eternal."



This means that whenever verses about hell say "forever" they may mean age-long.



An age is a temporary amount of time.



This weeping and nashing of teeth you describe does not have to go on forever.
Forever means never ending or without end..

What good is Gods judgment if people reject him because of unbelief, only to get out of jail after a few years punishment

The penalty of sin is death, Death is eternal.

The only way of salvation is to be redeemed. That only happens in this lifetime, To die having rejected christ is to die having commited the one sin that Christ did nto die for. You blasphemed the HS.

You will never get out of jail. Because you can never pay for that sin, and jesus did not pay it for you
 
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Do you then believe there is a scripture that tells us after death those that died in their sins can be saved?
The verse I just provided (Romans 10:13) stated that any who call upon the name of the Lord will be saved. There is no reason to assume that promise does not apply to the afterlife.

This next verse supports that the wrath of God is for remedial purposes, not eternal punishment (Malachi 3:2).
 

Lafftur

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I need to say that I do believe that Jesus is the only way to the Father. I wonder if you believe it is possible that all men will come to the Father through Jesus.
Hello IsaiahX,

Let’s look at what we know:
- Jesus Christ is the ONLY WAY to the Father.
- We all need a Savior and Jesus is the Only Savior.
- After death is the judgment, however, it is not the Great White Throne judgement so, perhaps there is still a chance.....
- Jesus has the keys to Hades so He can lock people in or let them out...
- So, if I died and ended up in Hades, the ONLY WAY OUT and to the Father is still Jesus Christ and Him alone.
- Father Abraham cannot cross the great chasm nor anyone, but Jesus can!


So, my answer to your question is YES! I believe it is possible, BUT ONLY WITH JESUS and they have to call on His Name and receive His Blood for forgiveness of their sins and receive His Righteousness which is His Body - the Bread of Life. :love:
 
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Forever means never ending or without end..

What good is Gods judgment if people reject him because of unbelief, only to get out of jail after a few years punishment

The penalty of sin is death, Death is eternal.

The only way of salvation is to be redeemed. That only happens in this lifetime, To die having rejected christ is to die having commited the one sin that Christ did nto die for. You blasphemed the HS.

You will never get out of jail. Because you can never pay for that sin, and jesus did not pay it for you
According to the original authors of the Bible, the word forever does mean age-long. A temporary amount of time. Not always forever.

What is the point of being punished if you don't get let out in a few years? The whole purpose of punishment is to teach people to do better.

Salvation does not only take place in this life. The Bible says judgement comes after death, but that judgement is age-long, not forever. If Jesus is all-powerful, than he can save you anytime/anywhere. He can always pay for your sin.
 
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The verse I just provided (Romans 10:13) stated that any who call upon the name of the Lord will be saved. There is no reason to assume that promise does not apply to the afterlife.

This next verse supports that the wrath of God is for remedial purposes, not eternal punishment (Malachi 3:2).
How can it apply to the afterlife. When after death comes judgment.

Who is going to deny Christ when you stand face to face?

yet the bible says, whoever is not written in the book of life. That death and hades who are delivered to christ. Are sent to a place of torment, and it is called the second death, of which their is no cure.

May I ask why you are fighting for universalism?