ISLAM and MUSLIMS
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The speaker in this video keeps on calling muhammad "'the prophet muhammad""..... Muhammad was NOT A PROPHET!!!! to call him a prophet is to give honor and credance to his words.. I wish that no Christian would EVER call muhammad a prophet.. This is a big mistake by this woman.. It undermines her message..
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As long as the Muslim population remains around 1% of any given
country they will be regarded as a peace-loving minority and not as a
threat to anyone. In fact, they may be featured in articles and films,
stereotyped for their colorful uniqueness:
At 2% to 5% of the population, Muslims begin to intensify proselytization and conversions begin to rapidly rise in well-targeted disaffected groups, such as in jails, prisons, poor communities, and street gangs. This is happening in:
Denmark — Muslim 2%
Germany — Muslim 3.7%
United Kingdom — Muslim 2.7%
Spain — Muslim 4%
Thailand — Muslim 4.6%
From 5% on, Muslims begin to exercise an unregulated influence in proportion to their percentage of the population. One example is that they will push for the introduction of halal food, and via halal food, Muslims begin securing food preparation jobs resulting in disadvantages to non-Muslims. Muslims will increase pressure on supermarket chains to feature halal on their shelves — along with threats of lawsuits for failure to comply (again, this is only ONE example of excessive influence in proportion to their percentage of the population). This is occurring in:
France — Muslim 8%
Sweden — Muslim 5%
Switzerland — Muslim 4.3%
The Netherlands — Muslim 5.5%
Trinidad & Tobago — Muslim 5.8%
At 5% Muslims will work towards getting the ruling government to allow them to rule themselves under Islamic Law within their segregated neighborhoods and no-go zones.
When Muslims approach 10% of the population, they tend to increase lawlessness as a means of complaint about their conditions. Any non-Muslim action “offends” Islam and results in uprisings and threats. Such tensions are seen daily in:
Guyana — Muslim 10%
India — Muslim 13.4%
Israel — Muslim 16%
Philippines — Muslim 15%
Kenya — Muslim 10%
Russia — Muslim 15%
After 20%, countries can expect sudden rioting for little or no reason at all, jihad militia formations, sporadic killings, and the burnings of churches and synagogues, such as in Ethiopia (which has 32% Muslim population).
At 40%, countries experience widespread massacres, chronic terror attacks, and ongoing militia warfare, such as in:
Bosnia — Muslim 40%
Chad — Muslim 53.1%
Lebanon — Muslim 59.7%
Nigeria – Muslim 50.4%
From 60%, countries experience unrestricted, rampant persecution of all other religions (including persecution of non-conforming Muslims), sporadic ethnic cleansing (genocide), use of Islamic Law as a weapon, and Jizya, the tax placed on non-Muslims, as in:
Albania — Muslim 70%
Malaysia — Muslim 60.4%
Qatar — Muslim 77.5%
Sudan — Muslim 70%
After 80%, there is daily intimidation and violent jihad, and some State-run ethnic cleansing, as these countries drive out the infidels, and move toward 100% Muslim. This has been experienced and is on-going in:
Bangladesh — Muslim 83%
Egypt — Muslim 85-90%
Gaza — Muslim 98.7%
Indonesia — Muslim 86.1%
Iran — Muslim 98%
Iraq — Muslim 97%
Jordan — Muslim 92%
Morocco — Muslim 98.7%
Pakistan — Muslim 97%
Palestine — Muslim 99%
Tajikistan — Muslim 90%
Turkey — Muslim 99.8%
United Arab Emirates — Muslim 96%
100% will supposedly usher in the peace of ‘Dar-es-Salaam’ — the Islamic House of Peace.
At 100% there is supposed to be “peace”, because everybody is a Muslim, and because there are only Madrassas (Islamic schools based on learning the Quran and Islamic Law), and the Quran is the only word and Law, such as in:
Afghanistan — Muslim 100%
Saudi Arabia — Muslim 100%
Somalia — Muslim 100%
Yemen — Muslim 100%
HOWEVER, peace is never achieved because in these 100% countries, the more radical Muslims incite hatred and intimidation over the less radical Muslims and then begin killing and massacring these less radical Muslims.
In some countries, with well under 100% Muslim populations (between 2% and 5% Muslim), the minority Muslim populations live in neighborhoods which are 100% Muslim and they live by Islamic Law. Muslims do not integrate into the native community. The children in these neighborhoods only attend Madrasas (Islamic schools based on learning the Quran and Islamic Law). To even associate with a non-Muslim is a crime. Therefore, in some areas of certain countries, the imams and extremists have much more power than the percentage numbers above show.
Muslims make up about 25% of the world’s population. But their birth rates are enormously higher than the birth rates of Christians, Hindus, Buddhists, Jews, and others. The Dangers of Muslim population growth - The Real Side With Joe Messina
Their growth statistics mean they will become the majority much more quickly than previously estimated.
Yes, the percentage of Muslims in America are said to be “low”. But we still need to check their ideology and their belief that it is OK to immigrate to our country and establish Islamic Law in their mosques and their neighborhoods and take away our rights bit by bit while their numbers grow.
After 40 percent you find widespread massacres, chronic terror attacks and ongoing militia warfare (Bosnia, Chad).
From 60 percent you may expect unfettered persecution of non-believers and other religions, sporadic ethnic cleansing (genocide), use of Sharia Law as a weapon and jizya, the tax placed on [conquered] infidels (Sudan, Albania).
After 80 percent, expect to find state-run ethnic cleansing and genocide (Syria, Egypt, UAE).
Muslim aggression as function of Muslim percentage of population
As long as the Muslim population remains around 1% of any given
country they will be regarded as a peace-loving minority and not as a
threat to anyone. In fact, they may be featured in articles and films,
stereotyped for their colorful uniqueness:
At 2% to 5% of the population, Muslims begin to intensify proselytization and conversions begin to rapidly rise in well-targeted disaffected groups, such as in jails, prisons, poor communities, and street gangs. This is happening in:
Denmark — Muslim 2%
Germany — Muslim 3.7%
United Kingdom — Muslim 2.7%
Spain — Muslim 4%
Thailand — Muslim 4.6%
From 5% on, Muslims begin to exercise an unregulated influence in proportion to their percentage of the population. One example is that they will push for the introduction of halal food, and via halal food, Muslims begin securing food preparation jobs resulting in disadvantages to non-Muslims. Muslims will increase pressure on supermarket chains to feature halal on their shelves — along with threats of lawsuits for failure to comply (again, this is only ONE example of excessive influence in proportion to their percentage of the population). This is occurring in:
France — Muslim 8%
Sweden — Muslim 5%
Switzerland — Muslim 4.3%
The Netherlands — Muslim 5.5%
Trinidad & Tobago — Muslim 5.8%
At 5% Muslims will work towards getting the ruling government to allow them to rule themselves under Islamic Law within their segregated neighborhoods and no-go zones.
When Muslims approach 10% of the population, they tend to increase lawlessness as a means of complaint about their conditions. Any non-Muslim action “offends” Islam and results in uprisings and threats. Such tensions are seen daily in:
Guyana — Muslim 10%
India — Muslim 13.4%
Israel — Muslim 16%
Philippines — Muslim 15%
Kenya — Muslim 10%
Russia — Muslim 15%
After 20%, countries can expect sudden rioting for little or no reason at all, jihad militia formations, sporadic killings, and the burnings of churches and synagogues, such as in Ethiopia (which has 32% Muslim population).
At 40%, countries experience widespread massacres, chronic terror attacks, and ongoing militia warfare, such as in:
Bosnia — Muslim 40%
Chad — Muslim 53.1%
Lebanon — Muslim 59.7%
Nigeria – Muslim 50.4%
From 60%, countries experience unrestricted, rampant persecution of all other religions (including persecution of non-conforming Muslims), sporadic ethnic cleansing (genocide), use of Islamic Law as a weapon, and Jizya, the tax placed on non-Muslims, as in:
Albania — Muslim 70%
Malaysia — Muslim 60.4%
Qatar — Muslim 77.5%
Sudan — Muslim 70%
After 80%, there is daily intimidation and violent jihad, and some State-run ethnic cleansing, as these countries drive out the infidels, and move toward 100% Muslim. This has been experienced and is on-going in:
Bangladesh — Muslim 83%
Egypt — Muslim 85-90%
Gaza — Muslim 98.7%
Indonesia — Muslim 86.1%
Iran — Muslim 98%
Iraq — Muslim 97%
Jordan — Muslim 92%
Morocco — Muslim 98.7%
Pakistan — Muslim 97%
Palestine — Muslim 99%
Tajikistan — Muslim 90%
Turkey — Muslim 99.8%
United Arab Emirates — Muslim 96%
100% will supposedly usher in the peace of ‘Dar-es-Salaam’ — the Islamic House of Peace.
At 100% there is supposed to be “peace”, because everybody is a Muslim, and because there are only Madrassas (Islamic schools based on learning the Quran and Islamic Law), and the Quran is the only word and Law, such as in:
Afghanistan — Muslim 100%
Saudi Arabia — Muslim 100%
Somalia — Muslim 100%
Yemen — Muslim 100%
HOWEVER, peace is never achieved because in these 100% countries, the more radical Muslims incite hatred and intimidation over the less radical Muslims and then begin killing and massacring these less radical Muslims.
In some countries, with well under 100% Muslim populations (between 2% and 5% Muslim), the minority Muslim populations live in neighborhoods which are 100% Muslim and they live by Islamic Law. Muslims do not integrate into the native community. The children in these neighborhoods only attend Madrasas (Islamic schools based on learning the Quran and Islamic Law). To even associate with a non-Muslim is a crime. Therefore, in some areas of certain countries, the imams and extremists have much more power than the percentage numbers above show.
Muslims make up about 25% of the world’s population. But their birth rates are enormously higher than the birth rates of Christians, Hindus, Buddhists, Jews, and others. The Dangers of Muslim population growth - The Real Side With Joe Messina
Their growth statistics mean they will become the majority much more quickly than previously estimated.
Yes, the percentage of Muslims in America are said to be “low”. But we still need to check their ideology and their belief that it is OK to immigrate to our country and establish Islamic Law in their mosques and their neighborhoods and take away our rights bit by bit while their numbers grow.
After 40 percent you find widespread massacres, chronic terror attacks and ongoing militia warfare (Bosnia, Chad).
From 60 percent you may expect unfettered persecution of non-believers and other religions, sporadic ethnic cleansing (genocide), use of Sharia Law as a weapon and jizya, the tax placed on [conquered] infidels (Sudan, Albania).
After 80 percent, expect to find state-run ethnic cleansing and genocide (Syria, Egypt, UAE).
Muslim aggression as function of Muslim percentage of population
There is a big difference between people who have just merely decided to disregard God, put their faith into naturalism, and enjoy their life, and people who have denied Jesus Christ for the teachings of a so called prophet who has told us that He was no more than a prophet of the god the so called prophet is telling us to worship.
The way that you would talk to the two people would be completely different.
The way that you would talk to the two people would be completely different.
We now have before our Canadian parliamentarians Bill M103 which seeks to prevent people from explicitly inciting violence against Muslims. The interesting thing to me, and as far as I know, it does not also seek to prevent Islamists from explicitly inciting violence against us. This seems a glaring omission given the fact that their pretend religion of peace is really a totalitarian social system that desires to control every aspect of life through threats of violence when one refuses to submit to their goal for complete dominance. World dominion is the stated aim of Islam.
Yes, the same was the subject matter of the last video I posted as well. Their system allows for them to lie, actually encourages it, for the cause of the spread of Islam. Taqiyya is what it is called, used to gain the trust of non-believers in order to draw out their vulnerability and defeat them. Sneaky!!! Thank you for trying to shake loose the ignorance that others cling to.
Here is a more in-depth explanation of all the ways Muslims are encouraged to lie to non Muslims.
Muslims are allowed to lie to unbelievers in order to defeat them. There are several forms:
Taqiyya - Saying something that isn't true as it relates to the Muslim identity.
Kitman - Lying by omission. An example would be when Muslim apologists quote only a fragment of verse 5:32 (that if anyone kills "it shall be as if he had killed all mankind") while neglecting to mention that the rest of the verse (and the next) mandate murder in undefined cases of "corruption" and "mischief."
Tawriya - Intentionally creating a false impression.
Muruna - 'Blending in' by setting aside some practices of Islam or Sharia in order to advance others.
Though not called taqiyya by name, Muhammad clearly used deception when he signed a 10-year treaty with the Meccans that allowed him access to their city while he secretly prepared his own forces for a takeover. The unsuspecting residents were conquered in easy fashion after he broke the treaty two years later. Some of the people in the city who had trusted him at his word were executed.
Another example of lying is when Muhammad used deception to trick his personal enemies into letting down their guard and exposing themselves to slaughter by pretending to seek peace. This happened in the case of Ka'b bin al-Ashraf (as previously noted) and again later against Usayr ibn Zarim, a surviving leader of the Banu Nadir tribe, which had been evicted from their home in Medina by the Muslims.
At the time, Usayr ibn Zarim was attempting to gather an armed force against the Muslims from among a tribe allied with the Quraish (against which Muhammad had already declared war). Muhammad's "emissaries" went to ibn Zarim and persuaded him to leave his safe haven on the pretext of meeting with the prophet of Islam in Medina to discuss peace. Once vulnerable, the leader and his thirty companions were massacred by the Muslims with ease, probably because they were unarmed - having been given a guarantee of safe passage (Ibn Ishaq 981).
Such was the reputation of Muslims for lying and then killing that even those who "accepted Islam" did not feel entirely safe. Consider the fate of the Jadhima. When Muslim "missionaries" approached their tribe, one of the members insisted that they would be slaughtered even though they had already "converted" to Islam to avoid just such a demise. However, the others believed they could trust the Muslim leader's promise that they would not be harmed if they simply offered no resistance. (After convincing the skeptic to lay down his arms, the unarmed men of the tribe were quickly tied up and beheaded - Ibn Ishaq 834 & 837).
Today's Muslims often rationalize Muhammad's murder of poets and others who criticized him at Medina by falsely claiming that they broke a treaty with their actions. Yet, these same apologists place little value on treaties broken by Muslims. From Muhammad to Saddam Hussein, promises made to non-Muslim are distinctly non-binding in the Muslim mindset.
Leaders in the Arab world sometimes say one thing to English-speaking audiences and then something entirely different to their own people in Arabic. Yassir Arafat was famous for telling Western newspapers about his desire for peace with Israel, then turning right around and whipping Palestinians into a hateful and violent frenzy against Jews.
The 9/11 hijackers practiced deception by going into bars and drinking alcohol, thus throwing off potential suspicion that they were fundamentalists plotting jihad. This effort worked so well that John Walsh, the host of a popular American television show, claimed well after the fact that their bar trips were evidence of 'hypocrisy.'
The transmission from Flight 93 records the hijackers telling their doomed passengers that there is "a bomb on board" but that everyone will "be safe" as long as "their demands are met." Obviously none of this was true, but these men, who were so intensely devoted to Islam that they were willing to "slay and be slain for the cause of Allah" (as the Quran puts it) saw nothing wrong with employing taqiyya to facilitate their mission of mass murder.
The Islamic Society of North America (ISNA) insists that it "has not now or ever been involved with the Muslim Brotherhood, or supported any covert, illegal, or terrorist activity or organization." In fact, it was created by the Muslim Brotherhood and has bankrolled Hamas. At least nine founders or board members of ISNA have been accused by prosecutors of supporting terrorism.
The notorious Council on American Islamic Relations (CAIR) is so well known for shamelessly lying about its ties to terror and extremism that books have been written on the subject. They take seriously the part of Sharia that says "it is permissible to lie if attaining the goal is permissible and obligatory to lie if the goal is obligatory". The goal being the ascendancy of Islam (and Sharia itself) on the American landscape.
Prior to engineering several deadly terror plots, such as the Fort Hood massacre and the attempt to blow up a Detroit-bound airliner, American cleric Anwar al-Awlaki was regularly sought out by NPR, PBS and even government leaders to expound on the peaceful nature of Islam.
In 2013, a scholar at the prestigious al-Azhar university decreed that Muslims may wear the cross in order to deceive Christians into thinking they are friendly. He cited 3:28 which says not to be friends with non-Muslims unless it is a way of "guarding" yourself against them.
The Quran says in several places that Allah is the best at deceiving people. An interesting side note is verse 7:99, which says that the only people who feel secure from Allah are those destined for Hell. Taken literally, this could mean that Muslims who arrogantly assume that they will enter heaven are in for a rude surprise (such are the hazards of worshipping an all-powerful deceiver).
The near absence of Quranic verses and reliable Hadith that encourage truthfulness is somewhat surprising, given that many Muslims are convinced their religion teaches honesty. In fact, many Muslims are honest because of this. But when lying is addressed in the Quran, it is nearly always in reference to the "lies against Allah" - referring to the Jews and Christians who rejected Muhammad's claim to being a prophet.
Finally, the circumstances by which Muhammad allowed a believer to lie to a non-spouse are limited to those that either advance the cause of Islam or enable a Muslim to avoid harm to his well-being (and presumably that of other Muslims as well). Although this should be kept very much in mind when dealing with matters of global security, such as Iran's nuclear intentions, it is not grounds for assuming that the Muslim one might personally encounter on the street or in the workplace is any less honest than anyone else. Taqiyya: Deception and Lying in Islam
Here is a more in-depth explanation of all the ways Muslims are encouraged to lie to non Muslims.
Muslims are allowed to lie to unbelievers in order to defeat them. There are several forms:
Taqiyya - Saying something that isn't true as it relates to the Muslim identity.
Kitman - Lying by omission. An example would be when Muslim apologists quote only a fragment of verse 5:32 (that if anyone kills "it shall be as if he had killed all mankind") while neglecting to mention that the rest of the verse (and the next) mandate murder in undefined cases of "corruption" and "mischief."
Tawriya - Intentionally creating a false impression.
Muruna - 'Blending in' by setting aside some practices of Islam or Sharia in order to advance others.
Though not called taqiyya by name, Muhammad clearly used deception when he signed a 10-year treaty with the Meccans that allowed him access to their city while he secretly prepared his own forces for a takeover. The unsuspecting residents were conquered in easy fashion after he broke the treaty two years later. Some of the people in the city who had trusted him at his word were executed.
Another example of lying is when Muhammad used deception to trick his personal enemies into letting down their guard and exposing themselves to slaughter by pretending to seek peace. This happened in the case of Ka'b bin al-Ashraf (as previously noted) and again later against Usayr ibn Zarim, a surviving leader of the Banu Nadir tribe, which had been evicted from their home in Medina by the Muslims.
At the time, Usayr ibn Zarim was attempting to gather an armed force against the Muslims from among a tribe allied with the Quraish (against which Muhammad had already declared war). Muhammad's "emissaries" went to ibn Zarim and persuaded him to leave his safe haven on the pretext of meeting with the prophet of Islam in Medina to discuss peace. Once vulnerable, the leader and his thirty companions were massacred by the Muslims with ease, probably because they were unarmed - having been given a guarantee of safe passage (Ibn Ishaq 981).
Such was the reputation of Muslims for lying and then killing that even those who "accepted Islam" did not feel entirely safe. Consider the fate of the Jadhima. When Muslim "missionaries" approached their tribe, one of the members insisted that they would be slaughtered even though they had already "converted" to Islam to avoid just such a demise. However, the others believed they could trust the Muslim leader's promise that they would not be harmed if they simply offered no resistance. (After convincing the skeptic to lay down his arms, the unarmed men of the tribe were quickly tied up and beheaded - Ibn Ishaq 834 & 837).
Today's Muslims often rationalize Muhammad's murder of poets and others who criticized him at Medina by falsely claiming that they broke a treaty with their actions. Yet, these same apologists place little value on treaties broken by Muslims. From Muhammad to Saddam Hussein, promises made to non-Muslim are distinctly non-binding in the Muslim mindset.
Leaders in the Arab world sometimes say one thing to English-speaking audiences and then something entirely different to their own people in Arabic. Yassir Arafat was famous for telling Western newspapers about his desire for peace with Israel, then turning right around and whipping Palestinians into a hateful and violent frenzy against Jews.
The 9/11 hijackers practiced deception by going into bars and drinking alcohol, thus throwing off potential suspicion that they were fundamentalists plotting jihad. This effort worked so well that John Walsh, the host of a popular American television show, claimed well after the fact that their bar trips were evidence of 'hypocrisy.'
The transmission from Flight 93 records the hijackers telling their doomed passengers that there is "a bomb on board" but that everyone will "be safe" as long as "their demands are met." Obviously none of this was true, but these men, who were so intensely devoted to Islam that they were willing to "slay and be slain for the cause of Allah" (as the Quran puts it) saw nothing wrong with employing taqiyya to facilitate their mission of mass murder.
The Islamic Society of North America (ISNA) insists that it "has not now or ever been involved with the Muslim Brotherhood, or supported any covert, illegal, or terrorist activity or organization." In fact, it was created by the Muslim Brotherhood and has bankrolled Hamas. At least nine founders or board members of ISNA have been accused by prosecutors of supporting terrorism.
The notorious Council on American Islamic Relations (CAIR) is so well known for shamelessly lying about its ties to terror and extremism that books have been written on the subject. They take seriously the part of Sharia that says "it is permissible to lie if attaining the goal is permissible and obligatory to lie if the goal is obligatory". The goal being the ascendancy of Islam (and Sharia itself) on the American landscape.
Prior to engineering several deadly terror plots, such as the Fort Hood massacre and the attempt to blow up a Detroit-bound airliner, American cleric Anwar al-Awlaki was regularly sought out by NPR, PBS and even government leaders to expound on the peaceful nature of Islam.
In 2013, a scholar at the prestigious al-Azhar university decreed that Muslims may wear the cross in order to deceive Christians into thinking they are friendly. He cited 3:28 which says not to be friends with non-Muslims unless it is a way of "guarding" yourself against them.
The Quran says in several places that Allah is the best at deceiving people. An interesting side note is verse 7:99, which says that the only people who feel secure from Allah are those destined for Hell. Taken literally, this could mean that Muslims who arrogantly assume that they will enter heaven are in for a rude surprise (such are the hazards of worshipping an all-powerful deceiver).
The near absence of Quranic verses and reliable Hadith that encourage truthfulness is somewhat surprising, given that many Muslims are convinced their religion teaches honesty. In fact, many Muslims are honest because of this. But when lying is addressed in the Quran, it is nearly always in reference to the "lies against Allah" - referring to the Jews and Christians who rejected Muhammad's claim to being a prophet.
Finally, the circumstances by which Muhammad allowed a believer to lie to a non-spouse are limited to those that either advance the cause of Islam or enable a Muslim to avoid harm to his well-being (and presumably that of other Muslims as well). Although this should be kept very much in mind when dealing with matters of global security, such as Iran's nuclear intentions, it is not grounds for assuming that the Muslim one might personally encounter on the street or in the workplace is any less honest than anyone else. Taqiyya: Deception and Lying in Islam
Our country was obligated to accept 1600 muslims because of EU quotas. We received 16. Why? The rest did not wait for the test of our security services and fled to Germany, illegally.
Poland accepted several hundres of muslims and till one year they all fled to Germany. There is 0 in Poland now.
So the fairy tale how they flee from wars and want only peace and live in peace is quite revealed... They want German/Swedish social benefits and/or to get lost in their large communities because they are not as innocent as they say they are.
Poland accepted several hundres of muslims and till one year they all fled to Germany. There is 0 in Poland now.
So the fairy tale how they flee from wars and want only peace and live in peace is quite revealed... They want German/Swedish social benefits and/or to get lost in their large communities because they are not as innocent as they say they are.
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Exactly... everybody who wants to can see it.
But it is not just about the percentage of the total population, it can also be seen localy. In Uk there can be 3% of muslims totaly, but in some cities or London quarters their percentage is much higher and therefore they are very dangerous for a white woman or man to go into...
But it is not just about the percentage of the total population, it can also be seen localy. In Uk there can be 3% of muslims totaly, but in some cities or London quarters their percentage is much higher and therefore they are very dangerous for a white woman or man to go into...
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There are laws in some of the EU countries protecting the grown male Muslim desire to hide, for instance, if they apply for asylum under the guise of being a child, nobody is allowed to make them prove their age as long as they do not look over the age of forty, and child applicants are automatically fast tracked and cleared. It is the most abused system for residency applications one can find among migrants. It is completely discriminatory to authentic and decent migrants who enter the West , but leftists seem hell bent on destroying Western economy and culture beyond repair and recognition.
Over 1,200 Muslim “children” with beards and fully developed male bodies arrived in the capital of Sweden, Stockholm, in a single day. http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2015/10/1200-migrants-with-beards-pretend-to-be-refugee-children-to-enter-sweden/
Over 1,200 Muslim “children” with beards and fully developed male bodies arrived in the capital of Sweden, Stockholm, in a single day. http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2015/10/1200-migrants-with-beards-pretend-to-be-refugee-children-to-enter-sweden/
True, they are called no-go zones and even the police fear for their lives and refuse to enter the Muslim run areas of certain neighborhoods, which exist in proliferation in certain countries; these neighborhoods are governed by Sharia Islamic law. Muslims are not allowed to leave their faith on pain of death, and even if they do not perpetrate acts of violence against others, they ideologically support those who do.
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Believe in Jesus in what way? They say He was just a prophet. You know, even atheists believe in Jesus according to some definitions of belief, if all you need to do is acknowledge He existed, for example. Even demons believe, but are they saved? Not according to Scripture. They do not place their faith in Him, do they? Muslims do not believe Who Jesus said He was, nor do they accept Who Scripture proclaims Jesus to be. Please do tell us that you do not equate Mohammed, an adulterous war mongering pedophile, whom Muslims idealize and follow, with Jesus Christ.
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I was going to ignore this thread because my views are going to be unpopular here, and I had made a decision to be less argumentative... but this thread is filled with so much ignorance and prejudice, it would be dishonest of me to ignore. This thread is a great example of why I have a great deal of difficulty accepting any organised religion, and if it represents the mainstream attitude of the Christians here, then perhaps this is not the community for me after all.
I currently live in one of those supposedly Muslim-dominated cities in England (Birmingham), and in the past I have even lived in a poor neighborhood where South Asians (mostly Indians and those of Pakistani origin) made up perhaps ~50% of the local population. Here are the real facts, from somebody who "has no dog in the fight" and has met people from all sorts of backgrounds thanks to the very varied journey life has taken me on thus far.*
In summary Islamic nations and Muslim communities in Western countries do have a problem that needs to be tackled objectively, honestly and fairly, but thus far the narrative has been mostly hijacked by ignorant bigoted radicals on both sides and delusional liberals who are terrified of offending everyone. I am not really that hopeful of any improvement, if anything our world has been regressive in the worst ways in recent years, but I felt compelled to share the truth that my experiences have taught me. I hope it informs some of you at least.
Sincerely,
Hao
*My relevant background: I was born in China and came to England with my parents when I was 8 years old. I actually attended a Jewish primary school for 3 years when I first got here. The school taught Hebrew and Jewish faith in addition to the standard English curriculum, but it accepted children of different backgrounds, including Atheists, Christians and Muslims. In my life thus far I have been friends with native British people, some of whom were Christian, I have been friends with Sunni Muslims from a Pakistani origin, and a Shia Muslim from Iraq, I have been friends with Chinese immigrants like me, some more integrated into British culture than me, some less integrated than me, and at university I met people from pretty much everywhere around the world. Among every group of people there are amazingly kind, generous and positive individuals, and angry, selfish and negative individuals. There is far more difference within a given demographic group than between different groups as a whole. I can say that with absolute confidence because I have lived my entire life between worlds, between groups, and it constantly amazes me how much common humanity there is between us all.
I currently live in one of those supposedly Muslim-dominated cities in England (Birmingham), and in the past I have even lived in a poor neighborhood where South Asians (mostly Indians and those of Pakistani origin) made up perhaps ~50% of the local population. Here are the real facts, from somebody who "has no dog in the fight" and has met people from all sorts of backgrounds thanks to the very varied journey life has taken me on thus far.*
- Question: Are there "no go zones" in Birmingham, England? This is a large city where 20%-25% of the people are Muslims, mostly of Pakistani origin, and it's very often taken by the far right as an example of "Muslim takeover of Europe".
- Answer: Kind of. But not because parts of the city are governed by Shariah Law, and as a non-Muslim, I'd be attacked on sight. Parts of the city feel unsafe because there are poor and deprived neighborhoods where the people are ignorant, unemployed, uneducated, miserable and angry. It has nothing to do with religion and everything to do with socio-economics. In fact I am far more concerned about being attacked by gangs of white or black youths than Muslim youths. Many Muslims feel like outsiders in England, and frankly have less confidence to disregard the law like disenfranchised native people, often called the Underclass or NEETs (Not in Education, Employment or Training).
- Question: Most terrorists are Muslims, so Islam must be a violent religion, right?
- Answer: No. Muslims are human beings just like everyone else. Among every population there are good and bad people, and having met people of so many different backgrounds, I know for sure that we have far more in common than that which divide us. So why Muslim terrorists? Well the Christian West has been dominant in the world for ~400 years, whilst the Islamic world never recovered from the Fall of Baghdad to the Mongols in 1258, and since the decline of the Ottoman Empire, there has been no prominent Islamic nation in the world. If the USA has a problem with a country, the US military invades that country and forces it to comply with US national interests. (And the list of countries the USA has invaded since WW2 is quite impressive). In contrast, what can an angry Palestinian do about his perceived injustices? There is no Palestinian national army he can join to fight for his peoples' interests. Desperation, centuries of humiliation and perceived injustice, leads to radicalization and desperate tactics. In WW2, China fought on the side of the Allies against Fascist Japan. China was also heavily outgunned by a technologically far superior Japanese Imperial Army, there many tales of Chinese soldiers launching suicide attacks against the Japanese. Are those soldiers terrorists?
- Question: You're a multiculturalism liberal aren't you?
- Answer: No, absolutely not. I am instinctively conservative, and even as an immigrant myself, I fundamentally disagree with the liberal idea that multiculturalism is inherently good and "enriches" society. I believe traditional values and national identities are worth preserving because they have inherent value. England should remain mostly English, China should remain mostly Chinese and Turkey should remain mostly Turkish. It is not racist to oppose excessive immigration that will change what it means to be English, Chinese or Turkish. Do I wish Birmingham had more native white English people and less ethnic minorities? Yes I do, Birmingham is an English city. BUT if your rationale for wanting that is because you feel that one ethnic group is somehow superior to another, then yes you are a bigot and a racist.
- Question: Does the Muslim community have a problem with radicalization and integration in Europe?
- Answer: Yes they do. The liberals prefer to pretend everyone is one big happy family if we all just talk to each other, but that's not the reality on the ground. The fact is that due to the horrors of Fascism ruining much of Europe in WW2, most of Western Europe adopted a very negative attitude to nationalism of any kind. There is no civics or patriotic education in most Western European countries. As somebody who experienced Chinese nationalist indoctrination in the first three years of education in China, I can safely say that "I love Britain more than most British people", because China gave me the basis for an understanding of the importance of nation and society, which ironically my native British friends would have balked at as "propaganda". The result is that unlike the USA, which was founded on immigration and is actually very successful at integrating immigrants, Western Europe has struggled to integrate its immigrant populations. Of course I am generalizing here, but there is a clear difference between the level of integration of immigrant populations in the USA and Western Europe.
In summary Islamic nations and Muslim communities in Western countries do have a problem that needs to be tackled objectively, honestly and fairly, but thus far the narrative has been mostly hijacked by ignorant bigoted radicals on both sides and delusional liberals who are terrified of offending everyone. I am not really that hopeful of any improvement, if anything our world has been regressive in the worst ways in recent years, but I felt compelled to share the truth that my experiences have taught me. I hope it informs some of you at least.
Sincerely,
Hao
*My relevant background: I was born in China and came to England with my parents when I was 8 years old. I actually attended a Jewish primary school for 3 years when I first got here. The school taught Hebrew and Jewish faith in addition to the standard English curriculum, but it accepted children of different backgrounds, including Atheists, Christians and Muslims. In my life thus far I have been friends with native British people, some of whom were Christian, I have been friends with Sunni Muslims from a Pakistani origin, and a Shia Muslim from Iraq, I have been friends with Chinese immigrants like me, some more integrated into British culture than me, some less integrated than me, and at university I met people from pretty much everywhere around the world. Among every group of people there are amazingly kind, generous and positive individuals, and angry, selfish and negative individuals. There is far more difference within a given demographic group than between different groups as a whole. I can say that with absolute confidence because I have lived my entire life between worlds, between groups, and it constantly amazes me how much common humanity there is between us all.