Israel or Palestine?

[zone]

mayhem and misery visited upon the Nigerians by Muslims - just like in much of the rest of Africa. With over 2 million people killed or displaced in the Sudan alone

i'll be covering all that in a new thread i have started.
you're welcome to read it and learn something.
please don't post.
thanks.

we can talk about depraved men killing each other all you want to...in Africa....anywhere.
i can do that.
maybe The Rwandan Genocide too.
and we'll see who staged managed that whole thing.

do you know?
do you know who provided all those machetes?

it's so easy to stir up civil wars. do you know who keeps doing it?
who benefits from all this killing Pete?

huh?

what the the false prophet Muhammad commanded his followers to do through the Quran and Hadith, which includes emulating Muhammad's behavior:

Qur'an 33:26 "Allah took down the People of the Scripture Book. He cast terror into their hearts. Some you slew, and some you made prisoners. And He made you heirs of their lands, their houses, and their goods, giving you a land which you had not traversed before. And Allah has power over all things."

Sahih Bukhari B52 #177 Narrated Abu Huraira: Allah's Apostle said, "the Hour will not be established until you fight with the Jews, and the stone behind which a Jew will be hiding will say. "O Muslim! there is a Jew hiding behind me, so kill him."

Tabari VIII:35/Ishaq:464 "The Jews were made to come down, and Allah's Messenger imprisoned them. Then the Prophet went out into the marketplace of Medina (it is still its marketplace today), and he had trenches dug in it. He sent for the Jewish men and had them beheaded in those trenches. They were brought out to him in batches. They numbered 800 to 900 boys and men."

Bukhari:V5B59N459 "I entered the Mosque, saw Abu, sat beside him and asked about sex. Abu Said said, 'We went out with Allah's Apostle and we received female slaves from among the captives. We desired women and we loved to do coitus interruptus.'"

cool....you keep track of the Koran, and Muslim crimes and blasphemy < call it something other than sinners hellbound in need of Christ.

i'll keep track of Israeli crimes and Judaism's blasphemy < and you can deny they are sinners hellbound in need of Christ.

maybe we'll come out with a balanced view.
i doubt it.

my job is extremely unpopular, and potentially hazardous to one's health.

yours is fashionable and easy.
you have MEMRI and MSM doing all your thinking for you.

 

[zone]

Zone, it is your blind rage and hatred of Israeli Jews, as a happenstance of the place of their birth, that has you partnered with forum Muslim Drett, in the one-sided denigration of Israeli Jews, and advancement of Islamic conquest of Israel, and subjugation of Israeli Jews, Christians and non-Muslim Arabs to THE false prophet Muhammad's followers.

you just don't get it...do you?
you think i am ultimately surprised, or have hatred toward LOST hellbound fallen men of any religion or race or creed?

they're FALLEN sinners!

i'm against 'christian' zionism.

Dual Covenant heresy.

you mean you haven't figure that much out yet?

i'm against people who claim the Name of Jesus Christ who perpetuate this stuff...in His Name!

i'm against YOU! not jews who are blind or muslims who are blind!

i'm against YOU! you say you have the Scriptures and the Gospel!

yet it's you who teach lies and give aid and comfort to Covenants with DEATH!

in the Name of My God!

...


Why Christian Zionism is nothing short of outright heresy

by Craig Nielsen on January 23, 2012

Israel-Palestine: A Christian Response to the Conflict (2011).
We asked Craig Nielsen to tell us about his new book, and the following is an excerpt from the introduction of
Israel-Palestine: A Christian Response to the Conflict (Foundation University Press (2011).

Christian Zionism, the belief that the current Zionist state of Israel is an unambiguous portent of the imminent return of Christ, is said to be the largest growing cult in America. With some 70 million Christian evangelicals in the U.S. (a large proportion subscribing to Christian Zionist beliefs), unconditional support of Israel on religious grounds translates into massive lobbying power in a country where the "religious right" has seen itself as the leaders in a fight against the infidels of secularism, Islam, socialism and any one else in their way.

Yet few, if any, scholarly Christian theologians support this view. It is a belief advanced mostly by powerful TV evangelists and lobby groups. The average "garden variety" Christian has little to arm themselves against the deluge of almost hysterical demands on Christians that they must support the Zionists' absolute entitlement to their colonialist project in the Holy Land with its dispossession and ethnic cleansing of Palestinian Arabs.

Israel-Palestine: A Christian Response to the Conflict informs Bible-believing Christians with clear and easily understood reasons why Christian Zionism is nothing short of outright heresy. The book has taken inspiration from the resistance to Zionism from Orthodox Jews as well as arguments from Christian theologians over the centuries showing that both Old and New Testaments of the Christian and Jewish scriptures provide no comfort for Christian Zionist dogma. The book shows that the idea that the Israel-Palestine conflict is a basically religious conflict is false; the conflict finds its roots in European Zionist colonialism and western indifference to real democracy in the Middle East.

Christian Zionism is nothing short of outright heresy < click

 

[Porthos]

To be honest, I couldn't care less about land. But I do care about the freedom of people, the killing of human life, and religious hatred. An both ends, and all ends portray it to some degree. I hope we come to a society where people generally can accept differences without this 'I'm not racist .. but'.

the simple fact is, America supports and supplies a war against people whose primary goal is simply freedom of state from those who oppress them. It isn't much to ask for.

United Nations was founded on the principles that any country within those nations doesn't get involved in war without the unanimous agreement of the UN members. Yet here we are, America and Israel yet again having complete disregard for the premise on which the UN was founded and Geneva conventions created.

There is a chilling echo of Adolf Hitler's statements in America's actions around the world; 'Demoralize the enemy from within, by surprise, terror, sabotage and assassination. This is the war of the future'. And 'Make the lie big, make it simple, keep saying it, and eventually they will believe it'.

The blind being led into a bear-trap fashioned out of their own ignorance.

 

[zone]

1.5 billion people that are commanded to conquer all kingdoms and subjugate all people to DISBELIEVING the crucifixion of Christ, DENYING the Son of God and REJECTING His shed blood, as ARTICLES OF FAITH in THE false prophet Muhammad.

OKAY!

are Muslims running the US government?
how about world banking?
what about all the western Media?
what about the seizing control of "evangelical churches"?

because the people who ARE DOING THAT ALSO have a mandate to subjugate all people; and STOP the name of Jesus Christ from even being spoken.

THEY deny the Son of God, and reject His shed blood.

do you know who they are?

let's see if you EVER just get honest.

 

[Porthos]

>>>>WARNING: GRAPHIC IMAGES<<<


Muslim doctrine doesn't actually deny Jesus. I mean, I've read the Koran and it plainly calls Jesus 'messiah', a lot of times. It agrees that Mary was a virgin, that Jesus was immaculately born and that Jesus is begotten of God, just like the OT said he would be.

'you are my son, today I have begotten you' - God speaking to Jesus in Psalms. So I mean, it isn't really fair to say that Muslims deny Jesus; they just don't attribute all the same things to him in the same way as Christianity. I can live with that difference.

He was a revolutionary and a man of perfect proportions who gave his life as the Messiah for men. Universally accepted amongst both Muslim doctrine and Christian doctrine. Besides, Muslims aren't the ones running the world. I mean, have you seen the picture of Osama bin Laden's 'dead body'?



The lower part of the face was pasted on.

 

[zone]

And what reason would a Christian have for not believing just another church burned, and more Christians burned, in Nigeria, with ten years running of Islamic conquest and subjugation of Nigeria, as well as Islamic conquest and slave making and trading in much of the rest of Africa.

do we have to go into the SLAVE TRADE Pete?
seriously? again?
the real question is how and why was this hidden and denied for so long?

how come everybody else has to admit what they did in the past...except one group.
and only then when caught.

see, it's this extremism, historical revisionism (the real kind - cover-ups, excuses and deceit) that is intolerable.

Jews and the slave trade
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Jews and the slave trade - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia < click

of course evil men of all races and beliefs and creeds and colors trade in slaves and have sex with children and are utterly depraved.

you think it's just Muslims?

....

do you have any idea why Jesus had to suffer and die?

IS IT because:

"evil men of all races and beliefs and creeds and colors trade in slaves and have sex with children and are utterly depraved."?


as long as people who say they have the Spirit of Truth keep only telling half the story - historically, and biblically...i'm going to keep telling the other half.

 

[Porthos]

Did it ever occur to anyone that 'al qaeda', an organization nobody had ever heard of before 9/11, is simply another way for the west to defame Islam and create an excuse for themselves to capitalize on the world's largest oil resources? ....

I mean, the fact that world banks are basically legal thieves and robbers and the Western Armies are practically licensed to commit genocide sort of puts a bit of a spotlight on the motives of the western world. The simple truth is; the eastern countries never bowed down to this kind of system.

Arabs control oil. Make Arabs the enemy and you have the backing of the people to commit atrocities and take their resources.

Does nobody remember what the German's thought about Hitler's actions? They generally thought that he was fighting the good fight. 'Thought' that is.

'Herd-mentality' anyone?

 

[Porthos]

Same with the British Empire, the Roman Empire, so on and so forth.

It's killing and controlling for power. Nothing more and certainly nothing less.

 

[tribesman]

To be honest, I couldn't care less about land. But I do care about the freedom of people, the killing of human life, and religious hatred. An both ends, and all ends portray it to some degree. I hope we come to a society where people generally can accept differences without this 'I'm not racist .. but'.

the simple fact is, America supports and supplies a war against people whose primary goal is simply freedom of state from those who oppress them. It isn't much to ask for.

United Nations was founded on the principles that any country within those nations doesn't get involved in war without the unanimous agreement of the UN members. Yet here we are, America and Israel yet again having complete disregard for the premise on which the UN was founded and Geneva conventions created.

There is a chilling echo of Adolf Hitler's statements in America's actions around the world; 'Demoralize the enemy from within, by surprise, terror, sabotage and assassination. This is the war of the future'. And 'Make the lie big, make it simple, keep saying it, and eventually they will believe it'.

The blind being led into a bear-trap fashioned out of their own ignorance.

There's a chilling echo of Hitler in the actions and words of the zionists. But most christians are so controlled and tricked by them they can't hear it. What a massive deception!

 

[Porthos]

I know a little bit about oppression and fear and war. Living in Ireland, aprticularly during the troubles, the leaders of organizations created an enemy in Protestants, like they were all responsible for atrocities, and they bred fear by making people believe they wanted to take over, they wanted to suppress and oppress. And the other side was told exactly the same.

What you got were people averse to each others religion, or social status, out of complete ignorance and cross-communication was seen almost like treason.

Fear breeding fear and lies breeding lies and stupidity breeding disdain for things that they didn't even understand.

The Battle of the Boyne was hundreds of years ago, and still people fight over it.

The British Sovereign rule in Northern Ireland ended years ago, and still Protestants cling to the British flag. In the last 3 months there have been numerous protests about the British Flag being taken down from Belfast City Hall. Disrupting traffic, scaring people into staying in their homes and breeding hatred and violence that was beginning to settle and become a thing of the past.

These tactics are absolutely nothing new.

Before someone wants to go attacking Islam, it might be best to actually befriend one of them and understand them first.

 

[PeteWaldo]

you just don't get it...do you?
you think i am ultimately surprised, or have hatred toward LOST hellbound fallen men of any religion or race or creed?

they're FALLEN sinners!

i'm against 'christian' zionism.

Exactly. And so much so that your blind hatred joined you with Muslims, in their conquest and subjugation of the Christian Zionists in Gaza, who are now subjugated to Muhammad's followers today. Beginning the dhimmitude of Christian subjugation to what is well on its way to becoming just another Sharia law ruled, multiple wife and concubine beating, little girl circumcising (FGM), little girl doing, slave making and trading, Islamic "apostate" killing, Christian and Jew persecuting and murdering, church and synagogue burning, Islamic slave state.
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From WND "'Arab Spring' becoming Nightmare For Christians":[/FONT][FONT=Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif]
"Christians can In the case of Ayyad, who managed the only Christian bookstore in Gaza, his body was discovered riddled with gunshot and stab wounds."[/FONT][FONT=Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif]
"The witnesses said they saw three armed men, two of whom were wearing masks, beat Ayyad repeatedly with clubs and the butts of their guns while they accused him of attempting to spread Christianity in Gaza. The witnesses said that after sustaining the beating, Ayyad was shot by all three men."[/FONT]
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From WND "Christians warned: Accept Islamic law"[/FONT][FONT=Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif]
Christians can only continue living safely in the Gaza Strip if they accept Islamic law, including a ban on alcohol and on women roaming publicly without proper head coverings, an Islamist militant leader in Gaza told WND in an exclusive interview."[/FONT][FONT=Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif]
The militant leader said Christians in Gaza who engage in "missionary activity" will be "dealt with harshly."[/FONT][FONT=Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif]
"Jihadia Salafiya and other Islamic movements will ensure Christian schools and institutions show publicly what they are teaching to be sure they are not carrying out missionary activity. No more alcohol on the streets. All women, including non-Muslims, need to understand they must be covered at all times while in public," Abu Asqer told WND.[/FONT][FONT=Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif]
"This missionary activity is endangering the entire Christian community in Gaza," he said.[/FONT][FONT=Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif]
Abu Saqer said Hamas "must work to impose an Islamic rule or it will lose the authority it has and the will of the people."[/FONT][FONT=Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif]
"His comments come after gunmen on Sunday attacked Gaza's Latin Church and adjacent Rosary Sisters School, reportedly destroying crosses, bibles, pictures of Jesus and furniture and equipment. The attackers also stole a number of computers."[/FONT]

Doing what you can in your little way to turn the rest of it purple.

 

[PeteWaldo]

>>>>WARNING: GRAPHIC IMAGES<<<


Muslim doctrine doesn't actually deny Jesus.

Rather than parrot some apostate Christian's abject ignorance, or the taqiyyah and dissimulation of Islamic liars, I recommend you do a little independent research first. Why not start by replying to the post at this link:
http://christianchat.com/bible-discussion-forum/61666-mark-beast-4.html#post994876

I mean, I've read the Koran and it plainly calls Jesus 'messiah', a lot of times. It agrees that Mary was a virgin, that Jesus was immaculately born and that Jesus is begotten of God, just like the OT said he would be.

All that is absolutely IRRELEVANT.

'you are my son, today I have begotten you' - God speaking to Jesus in Psalms. So I mean, it isn't really fair to say that Muslims deny Jesus; .......

They don't deny Jesus any more than an atheist or secular humanist that recognizes the historical record of Jesus existence.
What are you, some sort of an apostate that got sucked into religious pluralism? I can help you get over that kool-aid you chugged. Start with the prior link.

....... they just don't attribute all the same things to him in the same way as Christianity.

LIKE THE WHOLE SUBJECT OF THE GOSPEL!!!!! Which in case you didn't know, is the crucifixion, death and resurrection of the Messiah, who saves all from sin who have faith in His shed blood.

I can live with that difference.

At least we understand where you are coming from. So let's get one thing settled.

Will you confess before us now that you believe that Jesus is the Son of God, and confess that you pray in Jesus' name? (on pain of committing the most egregious and ONLY UNFORGIVABLE SIN in Islam)

Will you confess before us that Jesus Christ was crucified, died and was resurrected from the dead.

He was a revolutionary and a man of perfect proportions who gave his life as the Messiah for men. Universally accepted amongst both Muslim doctrine and Christian doctrine. Besides, Muslims aren't the ones running the world. I mean, have you seen the picture of Osama bin Laden's 'dead body'?

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The lower part of the face was pasted on.

 

[zone]

Exactly. And so much so that your blind hatred joined you with Muslims, in their conquest and subjugation of the Christian Zionists in Gaza, who are now subjugated to Muhammad's followers today.

baby talk.

Christians lived quite reasonably well in the Middle East - under Saddam; Assad; the Ottomans; Iran; most Arabic nations (not under the FAKE Saudi perverts of course - they're fake that's why).

UNTIL - The Big Clash of Civilizations and the betrayal of Muslim relations by NeoCon hijacked America the once beautiful.

you talk gaga.

From WND [/URL]"'Arab Spring' becoming Nightmare For Christians":

WORLD NET DAILY?
Pete...shame shame.

but i expect nothing better from you at this point.

The Arab Spring was engineered and manipulated by the West. as usual.

i could just tear down your stupid junk in an hour but its hardly worth it.
you don't know what to believe...LOL.

Arab Spring...ya...Color Revolutions...ya SURE.....all for a Greater purpose.

did we ever get around to the Talmud?

you're getting boring and you have no credibility.

k...might ttyl.

 

[PeteWaldo]

To be honest, I couldn't care less about land. But I do care about the freedom of people, the killing of human life, and religious hatred. An both ends, and all ends portray it to some degree. I hope we come to a society where people generally can accept differences without this 'I'm not racist .. but'.

the simple fact is, America supports and supplies a war against people whose primary goal is simply freedom of state from those who oppress them. It isn't much to ask for.

What a secular state, that divorced itself from God in 1947 through the Everson Decision, does is irrelevant. This is a typical Muslim argument. Islam compared to the godless part of the non-Islamic world. It's apples and oranges.

Indeed some of our soldiers were carrying the sword of the Spirit translated into Afghan dialects, to give as host presents when they were invited into Afghan homes, for dinner. The military found out, collected them up, and burned them. Surrendering to Satan. Destroying the only weapon God gave us with which to engage these powers of darkness and enemy of mankind - particularly God's people.

United Nations was founded on the principles that any country within those nations doesn't get involved in war without the unanimous agreement of the UN members. Yet here we are, America and Israel yet again having complete disregard for the premise on which the UN was founded and Geneva conventions created.

There is a chilling echo of Adolf Hitler's statements in America's actions around the world; 'Demoralize the enemy from within, by surprise, terror, sabotage and assassination. This is the war of the future'. And 'Make the lie big, make it simple, keep saying it, and eventually they will believe it'.

The blind being led into a bear-trap fashioned out of their own ignorance.

Who needs an "echo", when the Islamic Mufti of Jerusalem worked hand in hand with Hitler toward their shared goal of genocide of Jews, with an Islamic panzer division in Hitler's army?



[video=youtube;8sk3fKY9PhY]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8sk3fKY9PhY[/video]

 

[zone]

What are you, some sort of an apostate that got sucked into religious pluralism? I can help you get over that kool-aid you chugged. Start with the prior link.

that's rich.

coming from the guy who mixes Christ with Ba'al.

all cozied up to the Pharisees.

innit special?

 

[zone]

What a secular state, that divorced itself from God in 1947 through the Everson Decision, does is irrelevant. This is a typical Muslim argument. Islam compared to the godless part of the non-Islamic world. It's apples and oranges.

you're resorting to spamming from your own files.
nothing original to say?

who did the Boston thing Pete?
why is America going into another lock-down?

how come the Army is on the streets?

dun crossed the Rubicon and y'all said COME ON! bring it!

the Mooslims hate us for our freedoms.

we lost 3 people today, and many injured.

at the same time, 9 killed and scores injured in Iraqi car bomb - because WE WENT THERE AND BOMBED THEM TO RUBBLE.

for no reason....other than Iraq belongs to the chosen people.
they say.

oh well.....that's THOSE people.

they didn't do 9-11, but they deserve it anyways.

 

[zone]

what i find ASTOUNDING with all this shrill yammering about the Muslim threat.

if Muslims actually did react according to the way they've been done...if they ever actually decided not to restrain themselves from retaliating for all this DEMONIC stuff that's been done and blamed on them...

THEN you'd have a terrorist behind every bush and a saber over every head.

don't it always seem to go
you don't what you got
til it's gone.

 

[Grey]

I wouldn't go for either side, both have committed atrocities.

Not to mention if someone "sides" with Palestine, which Palestine would they be talking about? The PLO which is more of a secular organization (though not nearly as secular as the U.S), or Hamas in Gaza strip, where women go to jail for adultery.

 

[doulos]

Both forms of written and oral babylonian and jerusalem text of the talmud is from HELL not the grave but the pitt of.
Anyone supporting these teaching coming from YHWH Yeshua the word of GOD or even the prophets is completely being lied to.
Maybe it is time to go through just how the scriptures for the most part came into being. Do any people here think that GOD would take a chance on them being subject to our opions HE is the WORD. THERE IS NO JEW NO GENTILE NO MALE NO FEMALE WE ARE ONE IN YESHUA, JESUS ,THE WORD OF GOD IN THE FLESH!!!

Why cant you see this ONE GATE! This end time counterfiet is the very proof of Pauls teaching and Johns Revelation.

“Recently there has been a renewal of attacks on Judaism and Jews through recycling of old accusations and distortions about the Talmud. Anti-Talmud tracts were originally developed in the Middle Ages as Christian polemics against Judaism, but today they emanate from a variety of Christian, Moslem and secular sources. Sometimes such “studies” have blatantly anti-Semitic tones; sometimes they are more subtle. Yet all of them remain as false and pernicious today as they did in the Middle Ages.

Because of their unfortunate frequent reappearance, there is a need to formally rebut these accusations and canards. The Anti-Defamation League developed the following essay that explains in an honest and scholarly way the Talmudic teachings as understood by Jewish religious authorities……….

Attempts to denigrate Judaism by quoting from classical rabbinic works are on record from as early as the twelfth century. By selectively citing various passages from the Talmud and Midrash, polemicists have sought to demonstrate that Judaism espouses
hatred for non-Jews (and specifically for Christians), and promotes obscenity, sexual perversion, and other immoral behavior. To make these passages serve their purposes, these polemicists frequently mistranslate them or cite them out of context (wholesale fabrication of passages is not unknown). They usually dismiss attempts to correct their misreadings as “hairsplitting” or dishonest attempts to portray Judaism in a favorable light.” Read the entire essay HERE <- - click

Rom 11:28 As concerning the gospel, they are enemies for your sakes: but as touching the election, they are beloved for the fathers' sakes.
It is in our best interest to take the time to reconcile the Scriptures and gain an understanding of how one can be an enemy of the gospel yet still be elect. Sadly many choose to remain wise in their own conceits and then use Christian polemics against Judaism to condemn and boast against the Jews. Sadly they fail to realize Scripture warns against such behavior;
Rom 11:18 Boast not against the branches. But if thou boast, thou bearest not the root, but the root thee.
Rom 11:25 For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.

Gen 17:7 And I will establish my covenant between me and thee and thy seed after thee in their generations for an everlasting covenant, to be a God unto thee, and to thy seed after thee.
Everlasting H5769
עלם עולם
‛ôlâm ‛ôlâm
o-lawm', o-lawm'
From H5956; properly concealed, that is, the vanishing point; generally time out of mind (past or future), that is, (practically) eternity; frequentative adverbially (especially with prepositional prefix) always: - always (-s), ancient (time), any more, continuance, eternal, (for, [n-]) ever (-lasting, -more, of old), lasting, long (time), (of) old (time), perpetual, at any time, (beginning of the) world (+ without end). Compare H5331, H5703.

Jer 33:24 - 26 Considerest thou not what this people have spoken, saying, The two families which the LORD hath chosen, he hath even cast them off? thus they have despised my people, that they should be no more a nation before them. Thus saith the LORD; If my covenant be not with day and night, and if I have not appointed the ordinances of heaven and earth; Then will I cast away the seed of Jacob, and David my servant, so that I will not take any of his seed to be rulers over the seed of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob: for I will cause their captivity to return, and have mercy on them.


The ordinances of heaven have not ceased, nor have the Jews been cast away.

Eze 36:19-30 And I scattered them among the heathen, and they were dispersed through the countries: according to their way and according to their doings I judged them.And when they entered unto the heathen, whither they went, they profaned my holy name, when they said to them, These are the people of the LORD, and are gone forth out of his land. But I had pity for mine holy name, which the house of Israel had profaned among the heathen, whither they went. Therefore say unto the house of Israel, Thus saith the Lord GOD; I do not this for your sakes, O house of Israel, but for mine holy name's sake, which ye have profaned among the heathen, whither ye went. And I will sanctify my great name, which was profaned among the heathen, which ye have profaned in the midst of them; and the heathen shall know that I am the LORD, saith the Lord GOD, when I shall be sanctified in you before their eyes. For I will take you from among the heathen, and gather you out of all countries, and will bring you into your own land. Then will I sprinkle clean water upon you, and ye shall be clean: from all your filthiness, and from all your idols, will I cleanse you. A new heart also will I give you, and a new spirit will I put within you: and I will take away the stony heart out of your flesh, and I will give you an heart of flesh. And I will put my spirit within you, and cause you to walk in my statutes, and ye shall keep my judgments, and do them. And ye shall dwell in the land that I gave to your fathers; and ye shall be my people, and I will be your God. I will also save you from all your uncleannesses: and I will call for the corn, and will increase it, and lay no famine upon you. And I will multiply the fruit of the tree, and the increase of the field, that ye shall receive no more reproach of famine among the heathen.

Considering that the most desolate period (both Spiritually, by the exile of Jews and Christians and physically, turned into a desert wasteland) of Israel's history was while under Islams control it is hard to believe that any one would deny that the restoration of the Jews to their God given land and the way that land has flourished since their return could not be by the hand of God. Isn’t it time you set your doctrinally based prejudice against the Jews aside so you could rejoice and praise God for being the covenant keeping God He is. Or must you continue to believe all was fulfilled in the first century so you can continue to stand with the antizionists of the world who try and help Islam usurp Israel’s right to the land God gave them?

Mat 24:33-35 Now learn a parable of the fig tree; When his branch is yet tender, and putteth forth leaves, ye know that summer is nigh:So likewise ye, when ye shall see all these things, know that it is near, even at the doors. Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled. Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away.

Summer is nigh, it is near, even at the door. The season grows shorter, the harvest is soon, many who saw Jerusalem freed of Gentile control in 67 will see the Lord’s return.

 

[wdeaton65]

“Recently there has been a renewal of attacks on Judaism and Jews through recycling of old accusations and distortions about the Talmud. Anti-Talmud tracts were originally developed in the Middle Ages as Christian polemics against Judaism, but today they emanate from a variety of Christian, Moslem and secular sources. Sometimes such “studies” have blatantly anti-Semitic tones; sometimes they are more subtle. Yet all of them remain as false and pernicious today as they did in the Middle Ages.

Because of their unfortunate frequent reappearance, there is a need to formally rebut these accusations and canards. The Anti-Defamation League developed the following essay that explains in an honest and scholarly way the Talmudic teachings as understood by Jewish religious authorities……….

Attempts to denigrate Judaism by quoting from classical rabbinic works are on record from as early as the twelfth century. By selectively citing various passages from the Talmud and Midrash, polemicists have sought to demonstrate that Judaism espouses
hatred for non-Jews (and specifically for Christians), and promotes obscenity, sexual perversion, and other immoral behavior. To make these passages serve their purposes, these polemicists frequently mistranslate them or cite them out of context (wholesale fabrication of passages is not unknown). They usually dismiss attempts to correct their misreadings as “hairsplitting” or dishonest attempts to portray Judaism in a favorable light.” Read the entire essay HERE <- - click

Rom 11:28 As concerning the gospel, they are enemies for your sakes: but as touching the election, they are beloved for the fathers' sakes.
It is in our best interest to take the time to reconcile the Scriptures and gain an understanding of how one can be an enemy of the gospel yet still be elect. Sadly many choose to remain wise in their own conceits and then use Christian polemics against Judaism to condemn and boast against the Jews. Sadly they fail to realize Scripture warns against such behavior;
Rom 11:18 Boast not against the branches. But if thou boast, thou bearest not the root, but the root thee.
Rom 11:25 For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.

Gen 17:7 And I will establish my covenant between me and thee and thy seed after thee in their generations for an everlasting covenant, to be a God unto thee, and to thy seed after thee.
Everlasting H5769
עלם עולם
‛ôlâm ‛ôlâm
o-lawm', o-lawm'
From H5956; properly concealed, that is, the vanishing point; generally time out of mind (past or future), that is, (practically) eternity; frequentative adverbially (especially with prepositional prefix) always: - always (-s), ancient (time), any more, continuance, eternal, (for, [n-]) ever (-lasting, -more, of old), lasting, long (time), (of) old (time), perpetual, at any time, (beginning of the) world (+ without end). Compare H5331, H5703.

Jer 33:24 - 26 Considerest thou not what this people have spoken, saying, The two families which the LORD hath chosen, he hath even cast them off? thus they have despised my people, that they should be no more a nation before them. Thus saith the LORD; If my covenant be not with day and night, and if I have not appointed the ordinances of heaven and earth; Then will I cast away the seed of Jacob, and David my servant, so that I will not take any of his seed to be rulers over the seed of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob: for I will cause their captivity to return, and have mercy on them.


The ordinances of heaven have not ceased, nor have the Jews been cast away.

Eze 36:19-30 And I scattered them among the heathen, and they were dispersed through the countries: according to their way and according to their doings I judged them.And when they entered unto the heathen, whither they went, they profaned my holy name, when they said to them, These are the people of the LORD, and are gone forth out of his land. But I had pity for mine holy name, which the house of Israel had profaned among the heathen, whither they went. Therefore say unto the house of Israel, Thus saith the Lord GOD; I do not this for your sakes, O house of Israel, but for mine holy name's sake, which ye have profaned among the heathen, whither ye went. And I will sanctify my great name, which was profaned among the heathen, which ye have profaned in the midst of them; and the heathen shall know that I am the LORD, saith the Lord GOD, when I shall be sanctified in you before their eyes. For I will take you from among the heathen, and gather you out of all countries, and will bring you into your own land. Then will I sprinkle clean water upon you, and ye shall be clean: from all your filthiness, and from all your idols, will I cleanse you. A new heart also will I give you, and a new spirit will I put within you: and I will take away the stony heart out of your flesh, and I will give you an heart of flesh. And I will put my spirit within you, and cause you to walk in my statutes, and ye shall keep my judgments, and do them. And ye shall dwell in the land that I gave to your fathers; and ye shall be my people, and I will be your God. I will also save you from all your uncleannesses: and I will call for the corn, and will increase it, and lay no famine upon you. And I will multiply the fruit of the tree, and the increase of the field, that ye shall receive no more reproach of famine among the heathen.

Considering that the most desolate period (both Spiritually, by the exile of Jews and Christians and physically, turned into a desert wasteland) of Israel's history was while under Islams control it is hard to believe that any one would deny that the restoration of the Jews to their God given land and the way that land has flourished since their return could not be by the hand of God. Isn’t it time you set your doctrinally based prejudice against the Jews aside so you could rejoice and praise God for being the covenant keeping God He is. Or must you continue to believe all was fulfilled in the first century so you can continue to stand with the antizionists of the world who try and help Islam usurp Israel’s right to the land God gave them?

Mat 24:33-35 Now learn a parable of the fig tree; When his branch is yet tender, and putteth forth leaves, ye know that summer is nigh:So likewise ye, when ye shall see all these things, know that it is near, even at the doors. Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled. Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away.

Summer is nigh, it is near, even at the door. The season grows shorter, the harvest is soon, many who saw Jerusalem freed of Gentile control in 67 will see the Lord’s return.

The difference between us doulos = slave right Is I dont need some one to translate for me. I love you google schollars to funny. I dont need the talmud to show you there coruption just look at the world they clearly run building there kingdom now. Just go get a rabbi and we will start with barasheet thanks.