It is good for a man not to touch a woman....

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Andrew1

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That Christians have adopted such a worldly courtship system today is terrible. It's one thing to have friends of the opposite sex, its quite another to go out with someone and then break up with them just to go out with somebody else and break up with them as well. How many hearts have been broken because of this stupid system. Christians should have friends of the opposite sex but not date, at least not in the conventional sense. Then when they are sure that they are compatible mates, start a courtship that they intend to end in a life long marriage. Otherwise your just setting yourself up for divorce.
 
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Tintin

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Andrew, sometimes it's not that simple. Dating for fun, rather than with an intent towards marriage, is foolhardy BUT you may not find your marriage partner with the first person. Dating/courtship - the name's semantics. The important thing is what is really meant by each definition.
 
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Gia let me give you other scripture to show you dating is OUT! God says this about a man and HIS virgin... whose virgin are you the first man you burn for, the second , the third.... Or are you insure.... God talks about if two burn for eachother, if you know not what burn is, then you have not met your partner yet. If there is a man that burns for you and you for him, this is what should happen....

First you should try to remain single, if that is easy you are BEST OFF!

Second if you burn so much for a man, and he for you... it is not in dating, it is in the way God wants to put you two together, then you sill not be able to control it.... You would want to be his wife and he would want to be your husband. (Still NOTHING to do with sex)

Third you and he will do good if you have sex in marriage, but you will do BETTER if you do not. God does not put woman and man together just to have babies, then no woman's womb would be closed in the Bible. Sometimes God puts them together to be a GODLY PAIR.... Ministering and such...

I hope this would be helpful to a lot of people,,,,,

It is mostly in 1 Corinths 7.... My one daughter hopes to find one of these husbands, but it is up to God. I hope she gets one, then I know a couple that adhered to 1 Cor7:36 and 37.

All girls and boys should be virgins when they marry, but DATING is the start of the PLENTY sex-active couples we get today.... Maybe if God banned dating in the Bible, it could have been less confusing, but i cannot find one DATE of two people in the Bible. Not one God aprroved. It looks like the first "date" was the wedding!
 
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It is good for a man not to touch a woman. Nevertheless, because of sexual immorality, let each man have his own wife, and let each woman have her own husband. Let the husband render to his wife the affection due her and likewise also the wife to her husband.
1 Corinthians 7:2,3

Okay so I was reading 1 Corinthians and came across this verse. And was a little a confused. So if we are not married, then we are not allowed to have any affection with each other what so ever. Like I understand we are not supposed to have sex before marriage. But not even cuddling, kissing, lol spooning, etc as well?
What do you want? A prenup?

Cuddle and nine months latter you have a little dividend,....that's all I'm saying.

Stay close, but not too close.
 
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So if we are not married, then we are not allowed to have any affection with each other what so ever. Like I understand we are not supposed to have sex before marriage. But not even cuddling, kissing, lol spooning, etc as well?
I thought once people were married they stopped doing those things...?

Haven't you heard the beginning of a 21st century marriage ceremony?

"We are gathered here today in the sight of God to make lawful what they have both been doing unlawfully for the past 5 years..."
 
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dashadow

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Each person has a different level of self-control. It's not women I have a problem with touching, it's chocolate. I suppose being married factors heavily in that regard, especially since the wife is the one always bringing home the chocolate. Anyway, each person should be able to tell for themselves when they're crossing the line. Obviously, everyone will have their own opinion about this matter. And it's fine to consider the opinions of others. But ultimately, it will be between you, your conscience and God.
Before I was married I was definitely down for getting a bit of sugar every now and then. And I'm not talking about chocolate or any other sugary confections. But I could handle that okay without the need to go further. But that's how I roll(ed). :)
 
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Tintin

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Yes, in the TV guide I saw a TV show titled "How to Have Sex After Marriage". And I thought, What is going on here? Wrong way around, dudes!
 
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jerusalem

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people have lost the art of true courtship and it is such a shame. doing things in the right order reaps so many benefits....not the least of which is marriages that last. step 1 is aquaintanceship step 2 is friendship step 3is courtship step 4 is the decision to marry or not.......each of these steps has specific rules that should be followed. the purpose is to develop the relationship before marriage is considered. this is the time when you investigate, challenge and test the other person. the 5th step should never be taken (marriage) until or unless both parties have determined beyond any reasonable doubt that they are not only compatible but evenly yoked. premature intimacy blinds your ability to make sound judgements about the other person and the circumstances you are in. this process should take time so that you have the opportunity to see for yourself how the other person responds to or reacts in a wide variety of circumstances. it is imperative that you be able to see if the other person's walk matches their talk and if you are physically intimate it will be extremely hard to walk away even if you see that. abstainence protects you to a very large degree if the decision to leave is right. another key loss to the failure to properly address a possible relationship is having a sense of family with your mate. you don't give up on family so if this ingredient is missing in your relationship you are no where near as likely to keep the relationship intact. you have to decide what it is you want in life and then find the best way of going about getting it. people have, for the most part, forgotten the way to get and keep a lifemate
 
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woka

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Hi Gia

I think the question needs to be what does kissing and cuddling lead to? I think the Lord wants us to avoid temptation and sometimes these acts as innocent as what they may start out being can lead us into area's we are sad we entered.
 
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Yes, in the TV guide I saw a TV show titled "How to Have Sex After Marriage". And I thought, What is going on here? Wrong way around, dudes!

Matthew 15:19For out of the heart come evil thoughts—murder, adultery, sexual immorality, theft, false testimony, slander.

Matthew 19:8
Jesus replied, “Moses permitted you to divorce your wives because your hearts were hard. But it was not this way from the beginning.

2 Timothy 3:4
treacherous, rash, conceited, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God


Matthew 5:8
Blessed are the pure in heart, for they will see God.

That is consider to be normal in these days. It is all what God has desire from us; when the time come He will castaway all those who practice lawless acts.

[h=3]Revelation 3[/h]15 I know your deeds, that you are neither cold nor hot. I wish you were either one or the other! 16 So, because you are lukewarm—neither hot nor cold—I am about to spit you out of my mouth.


Revelation 22:11
Let the one who does wrong continue to do wrong; let the vile person continue to be vile; let the one who does right continue to do right; and let the holy person continue to be holy.”
 
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jinx

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Yes, in the TV guide I saw a TV show titled "How to Have Sex After Marriage". And I thought, What is going on here? Wrong way around, dudes!

so many married people lose connection (no pun intended) with their mate they forget what it was like to be intimate. it's a shame really... then they go and look for it somewhere else, or resent their partner altogether.

makes me want to slap'em all upside the head and say "get with it people!!!"
 
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jinx

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Matthew 15:19For out of the heart come evil thoughts—murder, adultery, sexual immorality, theft, false testimony, slander.

Matthew 19:8
Jesus replied, “Moses permitted you to divorce your wives because your hearts were hard. But it was not this way from the beginning.

2 Timothy 3:4
treacherous, rash, conceited, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God


Matthew 5:8
Blessed are the pure in heart, for they will see God.

That is consider to be normal in these days. It is all what God has desire from us; when the time come He will castaway all those who practice lawless acts.

Revelation 3

15 I know your deeds, that you are neither cold nor hot. I wish you were either one or the other! 16 So, because you are lukewarm—neither hot nor cold—I am about to spit you out of my mouth.


Revelation 22:11
Let the one who does wrong continue to do wrong; let the vile person continue to be vile; let the one who does right continue to do right; and let the holy person continue to be holy.”

didn't get the point you was trying to make.....

are you saying that we can't enjoy each others company after we are married?
 

starfield

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It is good for a man not to touch a woman. Nevertheless, because of sexual immorality, let each man have his own wife, and let each woman have her own husband. Let the husband render to his wife the affection due her and likewise also the wife to her husband.
1 Corinthians 7:2,3

Okay so I was reading 1 Corinthians and came across this verse. And was a little a confused. So if we are not married, then we are not allowed to have any affection with each other what so ever. Like I understand we are not supposed to have sex before marriage. But not even cuddling, kissing, lol spooning, etc as well?

They should be reserved for marriage.
 
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Peace be with you vessel of deception, Do you know who house in you to doubt and question the HOLY SPIRIT of the Holy Scripture which is life and spirit?
May the FATHER of the LORD JESUS CHRIST rebuke the false spirit in you, to know the ONE who brought us grace and truth to truly repent by the help of the HOLY SPIRIT, in order to be saved and continue in spiritual discernment of the Holy Scripture of the HOLY SPIRIT.
Why? first of all your photo do not portrait true repentance according to the Word (JESUS) of GOD according the New Covenant called 'modesty clothing'.
You still have chance in repentance, rather than to continue in ignorance and become shipwrecked later.
May GOD the FATHER of our LORD JESUS CHRIST save and bless you from the snare of the devil, because not continuing in the Teachings of CHRIST which is spirit and life for all believers, Amen.
'Pray for her brothers and sisters rather than answering her tread, for her to know the living truth which she, her spirit must already acknowledge and not continue in deception and deceiving other young ones of the Kingdom to doubt and question all that has been given in the Holy Bible, who are on this website of GOD in CHRIST the HOLY SPIRIT our Helper of the Holy Scripture.'
 

Fenner

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Like I understand that, but I date every now and then. And speaking as virgin, I don't partake in "sexual activities", but I don't mind some affection. That's why I am asking, is it okay to have affection with boundaries and self control..if that even makes sense. Because what I read it seems we are not suppose to have any affection or even physically touch each other.

I'm not an expert but I'm sure it's ok Gia. I've always enjoyed hand holding and I like when my husband puts his arm around me. You sound like you have good self control and when you're comfortable with someone it's nice to show affection.
 

starfield

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Jun 13, 2009
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Peace be with you vessel of deception, Do you know who house in you to doubt and question the HOLY SPIRIT of the Holy Scripture which is life and spirit?
May the FATHER of the LORD JESUS CHRIST rebuke the false spirit in you, to know the ONE who brought us grace and truth to truly repent by the help of the HOLY SPIRIT, in order to be saved and continue in spiritual discernment of the Holy Scripture of the HOLY SPIRIT.
Why? first of all your photo do not portrait true repentance according to the Word (JESUS) of GOD according the New Covenant called 'modesty clothing'.
You still have chance in repentance, rather than to continue in ignorance and become shipwrecked later.

May GOD the FATHER of our LORD JESUS CHRIST save and bless you from the snare of the devil, because not continuing in the Teachings of CHRIST which is spirit and life for all believers, Amen.
'Pray for her brothers and sisters rather than answering her tread, for her to know the living truth which she, her spirit must already acknowledge and not continue in deception and deceiving other young ones of the Kingdom to doubt and question all that has been given in the Holy Bible, who are on this website of GOD in CHRIST the HOLY SPIRIT our Helper of the Holy Scripture.'
1. Fred, what does that have to do with the discussion at hand?:confused:

2. Your judgmental attitude is uncalled for. Tsk tsk...
 
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NodMyHeadLikeYeah

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I have no idea what Paul meant, all we can really do is speculate because we he's not around to clarify.

All i know is that you are a virgin and that's quite something. If i was you i would't do anything to compromise that something i have held on to for so many years.
 
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I'm going to use an analogy that some might think is downright foolish. An one-yard, there's two male dogs. In a next yard, there is a female dog. It is springtime. The boy dogs see the girl dog. One of them starts jumping on the fence and barking. The other one is getting so irritated that he can't get through the fence, so he turns into a groundhog and starts digging a big hole under it.

The difference between the two dogs is their sensitivity to hormones and pheromones. the dog digging under the fence was much more sensitive than the other. It's the same with people, except we don't act like dogs, lol!
We can be a totally dedicated Christian, and still not know with all of our great standards that we are supersensitive to hormones and pheromones. When we come in contact with the opposite sex, just because we handled one situation real well with one person doesn't mean we'll be able to handle it just as well with the next person. Men do not always know it, but they genuinely react toward women according to what their senses pick up. that's why some ugly girls in high school were so popular. Their hormones were off the charts!

In ministry, I've had to learn this. Just shaking hands with certain people or hugging them, and the next thing you know you got this weird feeling that something isn't right. From then on, you distance yourself from that person and watch how other people react toward them. They themselves may be innocent. We can't control how our chemicals work. But we must be prepared spiritually and stay on our watch. You never know when you'll come in contact with someone with high pheromone issues.
 
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jinx

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Peace be with you vessel of deception, Do you know who house in you to doubt and question the HOLY SPIRIT of the Holy Scripture which is life and spirit?
May the FATHER of the LORD JESUS CHRIST rebuke the false spirit in you, to know the ONE who brought us grace and truth to truly repent by the help of the HOLY SPIRIT, in order to be saved and continue in spiritual discernment of the Holy Scripture of the HOLY SPIRIT.
Why? first of all your photo do not portrait true repentance according to the Word (JESUS) of GOD according the New Covenant called 'modesty clothing'.
You still have chance in repentance, rather than to continue in ignorance and become shipwrecked later.
May GOD the FATHER of our LORD JESUS CHRIST save and bless you from the snare of the devil, because not continuing in the Teachings of CHRIST which is spirit and life for all believers, Amen.
'Pray for her brothers and sisters rather than answering her tread, for her to know the living truth which she, her spirit must already acknowledge and not continue in deception and deceiving other young ones of the Kingdom to doubt and question all that has been given in the Holy Bible, who are on this website of GOD in CHRIST the HOLY SPIRIT our Helper of the Holy Scripture.'
what in the world fred?!?!?!?!?!!?!

The lady asked a question. That is all. my goodness... did you expect everyone to be perfect the moment they get saved???
NO THEY DONT!
I'm sure I can find something wrong with your walk if you give me a chance and post a rebuke for all to see and hear in this chat site.... but that would be STUPID!!!!!

your being STUPID FRED!!!!

and "dont answer her thread but pray for her instead".... hello!!!!!! HOW she gonna learn anything without being taught.

you sound arrogant.