It is good for a man not to touch a woman....

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gia

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It is good for a man not to touch a woman. Nevertheless, because of sexual immorality, let each man have his own wife, and let each woman have her own husband. Let the husband render to his wife the affection due her and likewise also the wife to her husband.
1 Corinthians 7:2,3

Okay so I was reading 1 Corinthians and came across this verse. And was a little a confused. So if we are not married, then we are not allowed to have any affection with each other what so ever. Like I understand we are not supposed to have sex before marriage. But not even cuddling, kissing, lol spooning, etc as well?
 
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gia said:
It is good for a man not to touch a woman. Nevertheless, because of sexual immorality, let each man have his own wife, and let each woman have her own husband. Let the husband render to his wife the affection due her and likewise also the wife to her husband.
1 Corinthians 7:2,3

Okay so I was reading 1 Corinthians and came across this verse. And was a little a confused. So if we are not married, then we are not allowed to have any affection with each other what so ever. Like I understand we are not supposed to have sex before marriage. But not even cuddling, kissing, lol spooning, etc as well?
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Just be careful with it cause spooning and cuddling normally leads to something else. self control is best.
 
teuful_hunden

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dating tends to lead to something else too so lets not be dumb :)
 
Descyple

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The only time I touch a woman is when I give her a high-five, and even then we both have to be wearing gortex gloves and not make any eye-contact!!!
 
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jinx

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I do believe the word touch in that passage means "set on fire" to "kindle" to "light" to "fasten"
and since the rest of the passage is about sexual relations, I would conclude that it is telling us to not have sexual relations until marriage. but Like I said before.... self control.... cold showers :)
 
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gia

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teuful_hunden said:
dating tends to lead to something else too so lets not be dumb :)
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Like I understand that, but I date every now and then. And speaking as virgin, I don't partake in "sexual activities", but I don't mind some affection. That's why I am asking, is it okay to have affection with boundaries and self control..if that even makes sense. Because what I read it seems we are not suppose to have any affection or even physically touch each other.
 
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Hmm... I've never been in a relationship but I think anything beyond holding hands, hugs and modest kisses etc. would be entertaining temptation. Cuddling - it depends. Spooning - I would say, NO.
 
4enlightment

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gia said:
It is good for a man not to touch a woman. Nevertheless, because of sexual immorality, let each man have his own wife, and let each woman have her own husband. Let the husband render to his wife the affection due her and likewise also the wife to her husband.
1 Corinthians 7:2,3

Okay so I was reading 1 Corinthians and came across this verse. And was a little a confused. So if we are not married, then we are not allowed to have any affection with each other what so ever. Like I understand we are not supposed to have sex before marriage. But not even cuddling, kissing, lol spooning, etc as well?
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Paul was just stating that from his opinion in what he recommended, because it will be all sorts of problem holding on to a relationship; not just only the issues between the couple themselves, but all the tricks that satan has up his sleeves. When you are in a relationship both party must be in agreement to serve one another, but if one is and the other isn't which that is going to cause conflicts between each other and God; because if one of the party isn't performing their duty as a partner should, and which the other will be displeased and which causes a person to be judgemental about the other and to separate which God dislike His children to break an agreement. God want us to only focus on making ourselves worthy to be with Him. But if you are carrying animosity toward someone, God will consider you to be the enemy. But if a person that goes through these problem in a relationship must be able to forgive and let God handle the problem and which it is hard for those to wait patiently while they are in full of rage. If we are able to forgive our enemies from the heart then there a possibilty that you can handle a relationship with a partner and God at the same time.
 
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In our church today, we talk more about what we believe than what we do. We think of these things as restrictive rules to interfere with our happiness. I've been reading the life stories of people who think of these things as leading to deep satisfaction instead of as restrictions. And they say it works. Mostly it is in Jewish communities that tries it, our Christian communities aren't much in the doing part of worship.

I have a grandson who decided that God did not want him to date. He had lots of going out for fun, and often with both girls and boys, but only as a group. He would walk the woman he married home from a group, they talked enough he knew he loved her. Their first "date" was a trip to her parents. They had decided to date and he asked them for permission, explaining he was serious. He said they talked for hours and were engaged that first date. It has really worked, they are happy together. He certainly didn't appear unhappy or deprived before he dated, either.

It must seem impossible when most have only heard or seen the way we live today, but ones who have tried it say it is good. And our way isn't working to well.
 
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Tintin said:
Hmm... I've never been in a relationship but I think anything beyond holding hands, hugs and modest kisses etc. would be entertaining temptation. Cuddling - it depends. Spooning - I would say, NO.
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For me, modest kisses would be reserved for a very serious relationship. They wouldn't just be lip-contact.
 
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I was confused about this portion before too.

Many study notes I read on this, indicate Paul was writing in answer to one of their questions.

One of there questions was something like..."It's not good for a man to touch a woman?"

So when Paul says, "It's not good for a man to touch a woman."

It's not that he's saying..not to give them a handshake.

It's that he's indicating in his letter that he's now addressing their question which had to do with men touching women.

Like if you wrote to me and asked..."Is it not good to eat jelly beans?"

I may write back..."Now about it not being good to eat Jelly Beans...."
 
4enlightment

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gia said:
Like I understand that, but I date every now and then. And speaking as virgin, I don't partake in "sexual activities", but I don't mind some affection. That's why I am asking, is it okay to have affection with boundaries and self control..if that even makes sense. Because what I read it seems we are not suppose to have any affection or even physically touch each other.
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1 Corinthians 7:9But if they cannot control themselves, they should marry, for it is better to marry than to burn with passion.

Affection that you are speaking of is the same as having sex. So you might as well just go ahead and jump over the broom.

Matthew 5:28But I tell you that anyone who looks at a woman lustfully has already committed adultery with her in his heart.






 
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do people still jump over the broom?
 
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gia said:
It is good for a man not to touch a woman. Nevertheless, because of sexual immorality, let each man have his own wife, and let each woman have her own husband. Let the husband render to his wife the affection due her and likewise also the wife to her husband.
1 Corinthians 7:2,3

Okay so I was reading 1 Corinthians and came across this verse. And was a little a confused. So if we are not married, then we are not allowed to have any affection with each other what so ever. Like I understand we are not supposed to have sex before marriage. But not even cuddling, kissing, lol spooning, etc as well?
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The word 'touch' in this verse is referring to sexual intercourse / touching -- not just simple physical touch. It is understood by virtue of the context of the passage.

Also, consider that there is a difference between:

"It is good for a man not to touch a woman."

and:

"It is not good for a man to touch a woman."

:)
 
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GRA is right. I don't believe Paul is speaking about physical contact. I think he's talking about about marriage. Look what he says in context..

Nevertheless, because of sexual immorality, let each man have his own wife, and let each woman have her own husband. Let the husband render to his wife the affection due her and likewise also the wife to her husband.

Let's look at these verses...
1 Corinthians 7:31-33

New Living Translation (NLT)

31 Those who use the things of the world should not become attached to them. For this world as we know it will soon pass away.

32 I want you to be free from the concerns of this life. An unmarried man can spend his time doing the Lord’s work and thinking how to please him.

33 But a married man has to think about his earthly responsibilities and how to please his wife.
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I think what Paul is trying to get at is being single the rest of your life can be a huge blessing to yourself and to God, but, if you are like most, who burn with passion or yearn to be with someone, to avoid sexual immorality, you should marry.

God blesses certain individuals with what some people call the gift of celibacy. If that's you, hey, that's great. You can focus all the more on your epic journey with God just like Paul did.

As far as conduct towards your "boyfriend" or "girlfriend," I'll say that dating should not be similar to test driving a car. There are things that you can give people of the opposite sex that belong to your future spouse, and this is not limited to sex. God loves you and wants to help you make decisions so that you can live a full and joyful life. God wants to give you your Adam or your Eve. So ask Him if that man or woman is the man or woman He wants you to be with. Do every step with God on your side. He will convict your heart of things you should and should not do, but you must ask and be grounded in the word of God.
 
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