Jesus and Paul -two different gospels?

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Oh yes the difference between "the savior is here to save you" and "the savior was here to save you, and this is what he did when he was here." Does not make the salvation different. Or even two different stories. The savior was there and was headed to the cross and the subsequent resurrection, which would effect salvation for those who believed. Which is the same Gospel from the begining.
Peter even rebuked Jesus for telling them he had to die, so he could not be preaching " the same Gospel from the begining"
 

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Romans 16
25¶Now to him that is of power to stablish you according to my gospel , and the preaching of Jesus Christ, according to the revelation of the mystery, which was kept secret since the world began,
 

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Gal_1:8 (KJV) But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.

There are many references in the Word. If any man teaaches something other than the gospel of Jesus, he is a liar.
Ok, I see another who doesn't believe what the bible SAYS . Look again closely please.

6¶I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto ANOTHER GOSPEL :

7Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the GOSPEL OF CHRIST ( GOOD NEWS OF CHRIST ) .

8But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach ANY OTHER gospel unto you THAN THAT WHICH WE HAVE PREACHED UNTO YOU ( WHAT WAS PREACHED UNTO THEM ? ) , let him be accursed.

9As we said before, so say I now again, If any man preach ANY OTHER gospel unto you THAN THAT YE HAVE RECIEVED , let him be accursed.

What your imagining it says is " There is only one good news that was ever spoken of through all time so if another comes to you and is preaching that Jesus is not God ,he didn't die on a cross ect then let him be accursed . "
Of course we should beware of those pesky J dubs but Paul is simply saying ' OTHER THAN ' ' OTHER THAN THE ONE THEY RECIEVED ' .OTHER THAN THE ONE THEY DELIVERED TO THEM.When we find the ONE they recieved then we know the difference . The one THEY recieved is not the same one they recieved in luke 9.6 nor will it be the same one they will recieve during or after the tribulation. Its false teaching when its taught the Paul means ' there is only ONE gospel.
If someone was to preach to them the Gospel back in luke 6.9 after receiving Paul's Gospel, this would also be ' another ' Gospel than the one THEY recieved .
 
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Peter even rebuked Jesus for telling them he had to die, so he could not be preaching " the same Gospel from the begining"
Jesus was Peter didn't like it. That's not hard to understand.
 

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Gal_1:8 (KJV) But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.

There are many references in the Word. If any man teaaches something other than the gospel of Jesus, he is a liar.
' any other ,than Paul's Gospel.
 

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Basically it says that Jesus taught a different gospel than that of Paul. Are there two gospels? One that Jesus taught then a different one that Paul taught?
Absolutely not. Paul simply built upon what Christ taught. There is only ONE TRUE GOSPEL, but there are many false gospels.
 

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Paul was a ' apostle to the gentiles '
That does not mean that he had a gospel which was different from that of Christ, or Peter, or any other apostle. It simply meant that he was commissioned to preach to the Gentiles. Yet you will find that Paul invariably visited the synagogues first in his travels, and first preached to the Jews, then the Gentiles. That destroys any idea that Paul had a different gospel.
 
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You spoke of Paul and people being confused. If you aren't opposed to Paul's teachings then you worded your post poorly.
Good luck, he is one who will never admit his mistakes, and turn it back on you claiming it’s your error
 
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Ok, I see another who doesn't believe what the bible SAYS . Look again closely please.

6¶I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto ANOTHER GOSPEL :

7Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the GOSPEL OF CHRIST ( GOOD NEWS OF CHRIST ) .

8But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach ANY OTHER gospel unto you THAN THAT WHICH WE HAVE PREACHED UNTO YOU ( WHAT WAS PREACHED UNTO THEM ? ) , let him be accursed.

9As we said before, so say I now again, If any man preach ANY OTHER gospel unto you THAN THAT YE HAVE RECIEVED , let him be accursed.

What your imagining it says is " There is only one good news that was ever spoken of through all time so if another comes to you and is preaching that Jesus is not God ,he didn't die on a cross ect then let him be accursed . "
Of course we should beware of those pesky J dubs but Paul is simply saying ' OTHER THAN ' ' OTHER THAN THE ONE THEY RECIEVED ' .OTHER THAN THE ONE THEY DELIVERED TO THEM.When we find the ONE they recieved then we know the difference . The one THEY recieved is not the same one they recieved in luke 9.6 nor will it be the same one they will recieve during or after the tribulation. Its false teaching when its taught the Paul means ' there is only ONE gospel.
If someone was to preach to them the Gospel back in luke 6.9 after receiving Paul's Gospel, this would also be ' another ' Gospel than the one THEY recieved .
So let’s get this straight. Two threads now and you have refused to answer the question

is Peter teaching a gospel of works? While Paul teaches a gospel of faith.

own up what your saying man.
 
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So what gospel was Peter preaching, for example in Luke 9:6 then?

Did it have anything to do with the cross?
Messiah is here to save us
 

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Paul teaches faith-based salvation which is what Christ taught.

What Paul does is explain the Christian theology in exhaustive detail using far fewer parables. The book of Romans, for example, is a thorough explanation of the Christian theology.
Which verses say that this is what Paul is doing ? It seems like when we read Jesus and Paul the Good news is different. Its at different times to different people. Different details. Different message.
 

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nor will it be the same one they will recieve during or after the tribulation.
Right.

Matthew 24:14's "this gospel of the kingdom" is what WILL BE being "preached" in/during/within the future, specific, limited time period (what we call "the tribulation period [7 yrs leading UP TO His "RETURN" to the earth]"--that is, FOLLOWING "our Rapture") [comp. the wording in Rev7:9,14], and is not what is going forth "NOW"; and what corresponds to that is, what is stated in Matthew 26:13, "Truly I say to you, wherever this gospel shall be proclaimed in the whole world, that which this woman did also will be spoken of, for a memorial of her." (I've posted a study before, re: "the oil [G3464]" per v.12 of this passage, in past posts--very interesting study: "[quoting from BibleHub site-->] "3464 mýron an ointment made of olive oil (1637 /élaion) and other spices (scents).")
 

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There is only one Gospel. It was first given to Abraham. There is no other Gospel. Any who think there is is a liar.

As for Paul, it is certain when he shared the gospel, be he faithful and true, it is the same as th only one from Jesus-Yeshua., for even Paul writes there is but one gospel.

As for Paul, himself, I do not see him prophesied to cme in the OT. As for his revelations we only hear of them from him as having been given them. There are twelve Apostles with their names on each of the Twelve foundations of the New Jerusalem, Paul is not mentione with the original Twelve, neither in the Gospels, nor in prophecy. We do know all about Paul, from Paul.
 

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Ok, I see another who doesn't believe what the bible SAYS . Look again closely please.

6¶I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto ANOTHER GOSPEL :

7Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the GOSPEL OF CHRIST ( GOOD NEWS OF CHRIST ) .

8But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach ANY OTHER gospel unto you THAN THAT WHICH WE HAVE PREACHED UNTO YOU ( WHAT WAS PREACHED UNTO THEM ? ) , let him be accursed.

9As we said before, so say I now again, If any man preach ANY OTHER gospel unto you THAN THAT YE HAVE RECIEVED , let him be accursed.

What your imagining it says is " There is only one good news that was ever spoken of through all time so if another comes to you and is preaching that Jesus is not God ,he didn't die on a cross ect then let him be accursed . "
Of course we should beware of those pesky J dubs but Paul is simply saying ' OTHER THAN ' ' OTHER THAN THE ONE THEY RECIEVED ' .OTHER THAN THE ONE THEY DELIVERED TO THEM.When we find the ONE they recieved then we know the difference . The one THEY recieved is not the same one they recieved in luke 9.6 nor will it be the same one they will recieve during or after the tribulation. Its false teaching when its taught the Paul means ' there is only ONE gospel.
If someone was to preach to them the Gospel back in luke 6.9 after receiving Paul's Gospel, this would also be ' another ' Gospel than the one THEY recieved .
OK, I see another who does not read posts before replying. So, keep it up, but you have no idea that the Savior suffered and died to give us His. Do not say there is more than one Gospel for that is simply a lie.
 
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There is only one Gospel. It was first given to Abraham. There is no other Gospel. Any who think there is is a liar.
You mean to say all of us are given the same good news that we shall have descendants as numerous as the stars in the sky (Genesis 15:5)?