Jesus comes immediately AFTER the tribulation, there is no Left Behind Secret Rapture=Stop causing fear.

[Pablo2021]

(PART 4 —LAST PART)
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The fact that Ancient Rome has fallen (as prophesied) is proof that guarantees the same fate for the Revived Roman Empire of the Harlot; except this time, She and Her Beast will be destroyed forever; whereas the true Kingdom of the Lamb will never be overcome. Ancient Rome was first being weakened by internal power struggles/revolution; but campaigns with the so-called Barbarians would eventually reduce the empire to insignificant factions (AD 467). https://www.rome.net/roman-empire.

Dan 7:27 - The sovereignty, power and greatness of all the kingdoms under heaven will be handed over to the holy people of the Most High. His kingdom will be an everlasting kingdom, and all rulers will worship and obey him.​

[Isa 45:22-23 NASB] "Turn to Me and be saved, all the ends of the earth; For I am God, and there is no other. 23 "I have sworn by Myself, The word has gone forth from My mouth in righteousness And will not turn back, That to Me every knee will bow, every tongue will swear [allegiance.]"​

[Phl 2:10-11 NASB] so that at the name of Jesus EVERY KNEE WILL BOW, of those who are in heaven and on earth and under the earth, 11 and that every tongue will confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.​

Every Knee bowing is the end result; but the following is where we see the Spirit life God destined for those who are having a love for the truth.​

Rev 1:12-13 Then I turned to see the voice that was speaking with me. And having turned I saw seven golden lampstands; 13 and in the middle of the lampstands I saw one like a son of man, clothed in a robe reaching to the feet, and girded across His chest with a golden sash.​

This is where we can circle back to the Son of Man being presented to the ancient of days. We are comprehending that the beasts of the earth have been granted their extension of time, by now having wreaked havoc on humanity for almost two thousand years since the little horn Vespasian.

Dan 7:12 “As for the rest of the beasts, their dominion was taken away, but an extension of life was granted to them for an appointed period of time.”​

With the Rapture of the Church, we have the Seventh Head: the Revived Roman Empire; This Final and dreadful Beast has Ten horns/leaders/kings who will be appointed by the seventh Head/Beast. It’s always important to remember that the Seventh Head is not only a Dictator but is also His Empire; and the same was true for six other mountains on which the woman sits, but the reign of the last (the seventh) is short, with only one man of lawlessness presiding over the empire. The Harlot’s legacy, related to the seventh mountain, will be Her desperate attempt to regain Her former glories by riding one of the most despicable persons the world will ever know.

 

[Pablo2021]

The prince to COME is the end time Beast, verse 27 says HE (prince to come) makes an Agreement with MANY. That's end time, not 70 AD events.

I agree; that's part of the implications in Daniel's prophecy: part of it is near-fulfilled prophecy, and other aspects point to further-to-be-fulfilled prophecy: Dan. 9:26 was fulfilled in 70A.D. (Beast: Ancient Rome); and v. 27 is the the Beast of the Future (The Revived/Healed from fatal wound) Roman Empire.

 

[Pablo2021]

Rev. 18 covers the same 42 months because this is the tale by God of His Wrath on Babylon the Great (Satan's Dark Kingdom on earth over humans). This of course starts with the Rev. 8 Asteroid Impact because this is the Judgment of Babylon (WHOLE WORLD as Rev. 16:19 explains) This of course covers Rev. 9 and 16 also. There are some clues in this chapter. In verse 2 we see that Babylon (this world) has become the Habitation of Devils/Demons, and of course we see Satan is cast down to earth and Apollyon and his hordes of Demons released from the Bottomless Pit, thus demons are now all over this earths domain. In verse 4 we see God saying "come out of her my people lest you partake in her (Babylon) sin and thus also receive of her plagues". This is God telling Israel to flee Judea, which they are seen doing in Rev. 7 and in Rev. 12. We get two more clues that Babylon is destroyed over the course of 42 months, except most people can't seem to decode these codes. Verse 8 says her plagues will come in ONE DAY and verse 10 says her judgment will come in ONE HOUR, both mean 42 months. We know the Day of the Lord starts on ONE DAY and is called the Day of the Lord but we also know it lasts 42 months. We also see in Rev. 17:12 that the 10 Kings rule ONE HOUR with the Beast and we know the Beast rules for 42 months, so both of these are clues telling us it will take Babylon (this whole evil world under Satan's Dark Rule) 42 months of Judgment before she falls. Then Satan gets locked in the bottomless pit for 1000 years.

Rev. 19 basically covers the full 7 years also as Rev. 14 does also. We see the Raptured Bride in Heaven (us the Church) where we marry Jesus then return to earth with him in order to be a part of Jesus' victory, where Jesus merely SPEAKS VICTORY (So he kills the Anti-Christ WITHOUT HAND as Dan. 2 and Dan. 7 and 8 all say) and thus the only part of Rev. 19 that does not happen during the Rev. 8, 9 and 16 Judgment chapters is where the Anti-Christ and False Prophet are cast into hell, after his 1260 day rule on earth as the Beast, in Reb. 19:20.

Of course Rev. 20 (Judgment Seat) Rev. 21 (the Ever-after) and Rev. 22 (New Jerusalem) all happen after Rev. 19 ends Satan's Dark Rule on earth.

To understand the Revelation TIMELINES one has to understand that the middle of the 70th week is the KEY, thus the 1260, thus the Rev. 8 Asteroid Impact, thus everything in the end times is centered around the Daniel 1260, 1290 and 1335 Prophetic Understandings.

Everything up until Rev. 4:1 is the Church Age Period/Time of the Gentiles on earth. Everything after that is the 70th week period (BELOW)

Up until Rev. 8 everything happens in the First Half of the 70th week, Rev. 4 and 5 is the Church in Heaven with Jesus, probably AFTER the Marriage which we see in Rev. 19, but then again I stated Rev. 19 covers the full 7 years for a reason. Rev. 6 is Jesus amidst the Church in Heaven opening the 7 Seals and Prophesying what is about to befall mankind back on earth when God's Wrath/Judgments finally falls in Rev. chapter 8. Then in Revelation chapter 7 we see the 3-5 million Jews Fleeing Judea (REMEMBER Rev. 18:4, Come out of her my people !! We see that in Rev. 7, the 144, 000 are ALL Israel who repent) So, all of that happens in the first half of the 70th week or in the first 1260 days of the 70th week. Everything after Rev. chapter judgment 8, basically happens during the last 1260 days, thus the 1260 is basically the dividing line God uses to teach us how to understand His end-time timelines !!

.......................................................Two-witnesses........Anti-Christ goes forth Conquering......................................

______________________________________1335____1260__________________________________________________


Revelation chapters 8, 9 and 16 are the Judgment Chapters and thus God's judgments start in Rev. chapter 8, moves on to the Two Woes of Rev. chapter 9 and to the Rev. chapter 16 Third Woe (which are the 7 Vials) which bring Jesus' Victory over Satan, the Beast and his False Prophet in Rev. 16:19. Thus these three chapters last for 42 months. They cover the whole 42 months of God's Wrath after the above 1260 middle of the week.

Rev. chapters 12, 13, 17 and 18 all start at the 1260 middle of the week event also, because each chapter is about the Anti-Christ and his rule on earth as seen in Rev. 12, 13 and 17. Rev. 18 is about God's 42 months of Wrath and Babylon Falling/being judged. Rev. chapter 11 is about the Two-witnesses 1335 appearance, where they Witnesses for 1260 days, are then killed by Apollyon, and then ascend unto Heaven. Rev. 14 and 19 both cover the full 7 years of the 70th week. This is why all of these chapters are Parenthetical Citation Chapters, they cover the book of Revelation chapters that have already been covered once, thus the Parenthetical tagline.

 

[Pablo2021]

I've found your chronological order of Revelation 4-19 quite interesting. And I notice

Rev. 18 covers the same 42 months because this is the tale by God of His Wrath on Babylon the Great (Satan's Dark Kingdom on earth over humans). This of course starts with the Rev. 8 Asteroid Impact because this is the Judgment of Babylon (WHOLE WORLD as Rev. 16:19 explains) This of course covers Rev. 9 and 16 also. There are some clues in this chapter. In verse 2 we see that Babylon (this world) has become the Habitation of Devils/Demons, and of course we see Satan is cast down to earth and Apollyon and his hordes of Demons released from the Bottomless Pit, thus demons are now all over this earths domain. In verse 4 we see God saying "come out of her my people lest you partake in her (Babylon) sin and thus also receive of her plagues". This is God telling Israel to flee Judea, which they are seen doing in Rev. 7 and in Rev. 12. We get two more clues that Babylon is destroyed over the course of 42 months, except most people can't seem to decode these codes. Verse 8 says her plagues will come in ONE DAY and verse 10 says her judgment will come in ONE HOUR, both mean 42 months. We know the Day of the Lord starts on ONE DAY and is called the Day of the Lord but we also know it lasts 42 months. We also see in Rev. 17:12 that the 10 Kings rule ONE HOUR with the Beast and we know the Beast rules for 42 months, so both of these are clues telling us it will take Babylon (this whole evil world under Satan's Dark Rule) 42 months of Judgment before she falls. Then Satan gets locked in the bottomless pit for 1000 years.

Rev. 19 basically covers the full 7 years also as Rev. 14 does also. We see the Raptured Bride in Heaven (us the Church) where we marry Jesus then return to earth with him in order to be a part of Jesus' victory, where Jesus merely SPEAKS VICTORY (So he kills the Anti-Christ WITHOUT HAND as Dan. 2 and Dan. 7 and 8 all say) and thus the only part of Rev. 19 that does not happen during the Rev. 8, 9 and 16 Judgment chapters is where the Anti-Christ and False Prophet are cast into hell, after his 1260 day rule on earth as the Beast, in Reb. 19:20.

Of course Rev. 20 (Judgment Seat) Rev. 21 (the Ever-after) and Rev. 22 (New Jerusalem) all happen after Rev. 19 ends Satan's Dark Rule on earth.

To understand the Revelation TIMELINES one has to understand that the middle of the 70th week is the KEY, thus the 1260, thus the Rev. 8 Asteroid Impact, thus everything in the end times is centered around the Daniel 1260, 1290 and 1335 Prophetic Understandings.

Everything up until Rev. 4:1 is the Church Age Period/Time of the Gentiles on earth. Everything after that is the 70th week period (BELOW)

Up until Rev. 8 everything happens in the First Half of the 70th week, Rev. 4 and 5 is the Church in Heaven with Jesus, probably AFTER the Marriage which we see in Rev. 19, but then again I stated Rev. 19 covers the full 7 years for a reason. Rev. 6 is Jesus amidst the Church in Heaven opening the 7 Seals and Prophesying what is about to befall mankind back on earth when God's Wrath/Judgments finally falls in Rev. chapter 8. Then in Revelation chapter 7 we see the 3-5 million Jews Fleeing Judea (REMEMBER Rev. 18:4, Come out of her my people !! We see that in Rev. 7, the 144, 000 are ALL Israel who repent) So, all of that happens in the first half of the 70th week or in the first 1260 days of the 70th week. Everything after Rev. chapter judgment 8, basically happens during the last 1260 days, thus the 1260 is basically the dividing line God uses to teach us how to understand His end-time timelines !!

.......................................................Two-witnesses........Anti-Christ goes forth Conquering......................................

______________________________________1335____1260__________________________________________________


Revelation chapters 8, 9 and 16 are the Judgment Chapters and thus God's judgments start in Rev. chapter 8, moves on to the Two Woes of Rev. chapter 9 and to the Rev. chapter 16 Third Woe (which are the 7 Vials) which bring Jesus' Victory over Satan, the Beast and his False Prophet in Rev. 16:19. Thus these three chapters last for 42 months. They cover the whole 42 months of God's Wrath after the above 1260 middle of the week.

Rev. chapters 12, 13, 17 and 18 all start at the 1260 middle of the week event also, because each chapter is about the Anti-Christ and his rule on earth as seen in Rev. 12, 13 and 17. Rev. 18 is about God's 42 months of Wrath and Babylon Falling/being judged. Rev. chapter 11 is about the Two-witnesses 1335 appearance, where they Witnesses for 1260 days, are then killed by Apollyon, and then ascend unto Heaven. Rev. 14 and 19 both cover the full 7 years of the 70th week. This is why all of these chapters are Parenthetical Citation Chapters, they cover the book of Revelation chapters that have already been covered once, thus the Parenthetical tagline.

Hello, I've read the chronological order you've displayed covering ch's. 4-19, and I've found it interesting; and I'm still trying to understand it all from your perception. And for now, I would ask you: what more closely chronological order do you give to each of the trumpets and the vials of wrath, and their yuxtaposition if there's any?
I wouldn't mind you using codes to point to each of then, like: 1t (1st trumpet), 1v (first vail), or the likes. Thanks

 

[Friend]

Babylon, the Harlot and the Seven Headed Beast Explained.

I will explain what the Holy Spirit has shown me recently, I blogged a blog 8 months ago(now over 5 years) and in the blog I stated that Rev. 17:18 was speaking of Rome, (from my perspective) within 2 months the Holy Spirit had revealed to me who Babylon was, who the Beast is and who the Harlot is. My opinion is my opinion, I never allow it to supersede God’s revelation, in other words I do not hold on to the pride of my opinion. If you want to know who the Harlot, the Beast and Babylon is read on.

To start with it is not a City, it is not Rome, Babylon proper, Jerusalem, NYC, it is not the RCC, Mecca or America. HINT: The Harlot and Babylon are two different entities. There is also NO MYSTERY BABYLON, I do not understand why we continue to say this, the Angel in 17:7 says this: Rev. 17:7 And the angel said unto me, Wherefore didst thou marvel? I will tell thee the mystery of the woman, and of the beast that carrieth her, which hath the seven heads and ten horns.

Rondonmon said this in green:
which shall bear rule over all the earth.

So, just like Nebuchadnezzar did not rule over ALL MEN on this earth, and just like Alexander the Great (3rd Beast) did not rule over the WHOLE EARTH, neither does this end tie Beast conquer the WHOLE WORLD, the lingo simply implies the WHOLE EARTH/Land being spoken of, and that land is the Mediterranean Sea Region, thus all the Beasts come up out of the Sea (Mediterranean Sea), thus the land being spoken of in each case is the Mediterranean Sea Region, not the whole world.

God's Wrath falls at the midway point, THEN the Anti-Christ goes forth Conquering, so both the Day of the Lord and the Beasts rule last 1260 days.

Yes, not getting the timing right will mess you up later on, that's why your timing is twisted a wee bit brother.

Hello Brother: Since you say my """timing is off a "wee bit""" This is the statement of a person knowing the fine details, Therefore, for all of us who are here, show us the order of all these things. After all God gave all of these things numbers and names. We say that God in not a God of Confusion. God is saying that a wise person can calculate the Beast... Please serve us a little here: We would like to see it in a way that we can all relate to like on a Graph: for example like this: If the first trumpet is first then show it like this: 1T and show 1S for the first seal. and 1V for the vials and M standing for the middle of the week, and the approximate placement of the "Treaty"; and so on and so forth; Showing us the order so we know how they all relate to each other and It would Show everyone exactly where you are coming from. Many are thinking you are dodging the ball rather than catching it. But I'm not sure about that It might just be some confusion here, so the deck can be cleared:
M
1S 2S 3S 4S 5S 6S
1T-7S-2T 3T 4T 5T 6T
7T 1V2V3V4V5V 6V 7V
"Treaty"

 

[Friend]

It does seem israel is exempted until the desecration of the temple.
Makes sense

Yes Brother: We are saying these things (because there is a Treaty for seven years), and the terms of the treaty are for unfettered access to the temple building area; it showing measurements for the people relating to tailoring of the Levite's clothing and the altar, and above all, the temple's placement in preparation for building it. Then it's safe to say that building the Temple is going to take less than 3.5 years in order for it to be functional. Daniel indicates that the Beast puts an end to the daily sacrifice in the middle of the week. It would be crazy to say that two Prophets/witnesses who stand in the presence of our Lord are not knowing the Beast/people who they are dealing with. The Sackcloth they are wearing indicative of being in the times of Great Distress; Fire coming out of their mouth indicative of them being in command of Israel's Army. It is easy to see that any treaty with the beast would be in fact the beast buying time in order to mobilize troops into the valley of Megiddo. Rondonmon says that no one will know who the beast is until His Image goes into the temple. But how could this be: It indicates everyone was knowing the two Prophets who were tormenting them, all sending gifts to one another when they were killed. It's obvious these are the enemies of God who have taken the mark of the Beast. If the two Prophets lay there dead for more than three and half days then the peoples of the Beast and the Harlot are off the hook, but if the rise, what does it say? It says that the nations are in Rage...

Rev 11:10 And those who dwell on the earth will rejoice over them and celebrate; and they will send gifts to one another, because these two prophets tormented those who dwell on the earth.

Everyone in the world is watching two dead bodies, therefore everyone is knowing who they are, it is so crazy to say that no one is knowing who the beast is; after all it is the beast who breaks the treaty and everyone is knowing who the beast is; Jesus indicates when it is time to run. Everyone was told to build image dedicated to Him. It is all so crazy to say these things; but that's what it says: that the false prophets would deceive the unsuspecting, that the false prophets are unreasoning creatures of instinct, rather than having the Spirit of God; completely blinded by their father the Devil. I am saying these things because I care for the true people of God who have been allowed to see these things; and like Jesus and Paul exposing those having taken the platforms, but now in our own times. Thanks for commenting Brother...

 

[Friend]

There are 5 Beasts in Daniel, one is a MAN who is cast into HELL, read Dan. 7:11 he is called a Beast and his BODY is destroyed and he is then cast into hellfire.

Oh Rondonmon you are the king of disinformation; Rondonmon says there are five beasts in Daniel, But look what I Highlighted in red: That there are Four Beasts/Empires, and clearly this was evident as being the context of everything I wrote in regards to the Four Empires of Nebuchadnezzar's Great Image; Stating that Babylon was first, then Medo-Persia, Greece, and Ancient Rome. And I was stating that Cyrus issued the decree to rebuild Jerusalem... Fair warning about Rondonmon: Always read everything from the person He is Quoting; almost everything I've seen Rondonmon post looks like a disinformation campaign.

Rom 1:18 For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men who suppress the truth in unrighteousness​

 

[Rondonmon]

I've found your chronological order of Revelation 4-19 quite interesting. And I notice


Hello, I've read the chronological order you've displayed covering ch's. 4-19, and I've found it interesting; and I'm still trying to understand it all from your perception. And for now, I would ask you: what more closely chronological order do you give to each of the trumpets and the vials of wrath, and their yuxtaposition if there's any?
I wouldn't mind you using codes to point to each of then, like: 1t (1st trumpet), 1v (first vail), or the likes. Thanks

Sorry, took a nap for a few hours.

All of God's Wrath are in the 7 Trumps (thus in Rev. 10 when the 7 Thunders Sound tie will be no more...[as we know it])

The First Four Trumps are all ONE ASTEROID (I think its going to be the Apophis Asteroid scheduled to come within 19,000 miles of the earth on April 13, 2029, and that is 10 times closer than the moon). The Fire comes(Trump #1) in first when Asteroids that big burst through our atmosphere, thus the fires start via the trees etc., then the IMPACT COMES NEXT (Trump #2) via the "Mountain cast into the Sea. Next is a "STAR ON FIRE"(Trump #3) but its he same Asteroid, God here in Trying to relay undo us that a Poisonous (WORMWORD) substance is going to poison 1/3 of the fresh drinking waters because of this coming great explosion, thus its shown coming in hot, the Greek word ASTER is used and it can be a Star or an Asteroid. Then Trump #4 is Joel 2:31 and the 6th Seal coming to pass, the Sun and Moon gets dark, and the moon turns Blood Red because of all the trees burning the moon appears to be red because of the Red Hue in the skies.

Rev. 8:13 then tells us the Last Three Trumps will bring THREE WOES when they sound. Thus Woe #1 and Woe #2 can be seen in Rev. 9, and Woe #3 is ALL of Rev. 16, thus the 7 Vials ARE the 3rd Woe, brought forth by the 7th Trump.

Thus by reading Rev. 8, 9 and 16 (15&16) al together, you get the 42 months of God's coming Wrath in its proper Chronological Order.

Thus in summary, Trumps 1, 2, 3 and 4 are all ONE EVENT and happen at the exact middle of the week or 1260, because when it hits, that's when Satan orders the Anti-Christ (who hears Dark Sentences or Satan's utterings as Dan. 8:23 says) to GO FORTH conquering, because the chaos will be good for him, it destroys 1/3 of the world, and all the other nations are busy trying to help their fellow nations out. Thus he goes forth conquering on the very day God's Wrath falls, thus he's a Beast for exactly 1260 days.

We know Trump #5 (1st Woe) lasts for 5 months, but I think this happens very close to the Asteroid Event also, because Apollyon is the Scarlet Colored Beast of Rev. 17, and he is released to continue his pursuit of DESTROYING Israel, thus his name is the Destroyer (Apollyon) and he was OF THE 7, and is an 8th (a king of the bottomless pit), thus he was over the Mediterranean Sea Region, he was over Egypt, Assyria, Babylon, Persia (I think he was the prince of Persia who resisted Michael for 21 days in Daniel chapter 10), Greece and Rome, then Gd locked him in the pit, and thus if the Anti-Christ/Beast rules for 1260 days, I expect the 5th Trump or 1st Woe to happens at about the middle of the week also. Thus he's OF THE 7....ALL SEVEN......and is an 8th (king of the pit)

Trump #6's (2rd Woe) timing is not as easy, 1/3 of all the men who take the Mark of the Beast will be killed by a 200 million Angelic Army, which I say just means the COMPLETE HOST of Heaven as 10 means Completion and 10 x 10 just boosts this and 10,000 x 10,000 super enforces that its ALL the Heavenly Hosts placing plagues on these men.

Trumpet #7 (3rd Woe) is the 7 Vials, thus happens 75 days before Jesus' Second Coming, I know thus because the Two-witnesses ae the 1335 (Blessing) thus they show up 1335 dats BEFORE the Second Coming ends all these wonders Daniel saw in Dan. 11:36-45, and thus 75 days BEFORE the Beast comes to power, thus the 1260 days that both the Beast and Two-witnesses have on earth as a timeslot Ordained by God was done on purpose by God, so we can juxtapose their timelines against each other. The Two-witnesses show up 75 days before the Beast who shows up at the 1260, which is 75 days later, thus when they DIE at the 2nd Woe, that has to be 75 days before the Beast dies at the 7th Vial. So, I am positive when they all start except for Trump #6, and I can tell you it ENDS 75 days before the Second Coming, but that's about it.

 

[Rondonmon]

Oh Rondonmon you are the king of disinformation; Rondonmon says there are five beasts in Daniel, But look what I Highlighted in red: That there are Four Beasts/Empires, and clearly this was evident as being the context of everything I wrote in regards to the Four Empires of Nebuchadnezzar's Great Image; Stating that Babylon was first, then Medo-Persia, Greece, and Ancient Rome. And I was stating that Cyrus issued the decree to rebuild Jerusalem... Fair warning about Rondonmon: Always read everything from the person He is Quoting; almost everything I've seen Rondonmon post looks like a disinformation campaign.

Rom 1:18 For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men who suppress the truth in unrighteousness​

I destroy all your bad positions, I see you are one of those RCC is the eat guts, thus you lose all cred at that point with me, PERIOD.

Notice the Iron Legs AND then the Iron & Clay Feet? That is not ONE BEAST. I can't help that you can't grasp it. But I can see why you fail to grasp anything, you are down the ole Armstrong rabbit hole.

 

[Rondonmon]

When you learn how to post I may answer, its not that hard, seems you like hiding your answers inside other answers.

 

[ewq1938]

All of God's Wrath are in the 7 Trumps

Not according to the bible. The wrath begins at the 7th trump:

Rev 11:15 And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great voices in heaven, saying, The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever.
Rev 11:16 And the four and twenty elders, which sat before God on their seats, fell upon their faces, and worshipped God,
Rev 11:17 Saying, We give thee thanks, O Lord God Almighty, which art, and wast, and art to come; because thou hast taken to thee thy great power, and hast reigned.
Rev 11:18 And the nations were angry, and thy wrath is come, and the time of the dead, that they should be judged, and that thou shouldest give reward unto thy servants the prophets, and to the saints, and them that fear thy name, small and great; and shouldest destroy them which destroy the earth.

Here it clearly states that God's wrath has come after the 7th trump sounds. Clearly God's wrath hadn't been coming for a long time before this or else the statement would be meaningless.

 

[ewq1938]

Notice the Iron Legs AND then the Iron & Clay Feet? That is not ONE BEAST.

Come on. That's clearly one beast. It simply has feet that are not fully strong. It's a mixture of strength and weakness in one beast.

Dan 2:40 And the fourth kingdom shall be strong as iron: forasmuch as iron breaketh in pieces and subdueth all things: and as iron that breaketh all these, shall it break in pieces and bruise.
Dan 2:41 And whereas thou sawest the feet and toes, part of potters' clay, and part of iron, the kingdom shall be divided; but there shall be in it of the strength of the iron, forasmuch as thou sawest the iron mixed with miry clay.
Dan 2:42 And as the toes of the feet were part of iron, and part of clay, so the kingdom shall be partly strong, and partly broken.
Dan 2:43 And whereas thou sawest iron mixed with miry clay, they shall mingle themselves with the seed of men: but they shall not cleave one to another, even as iron is not mixed with clay.

Clearly and obviously only one kingdom/beast is described here, 3 different times.

 

[Pablo2021]

You are soaked in harlot doctrine like almost all of US: So now worries: First of all, In ((((Revelations)))) We have a Beast with Seven Heads, but four of the heads/empires are in the Book of Daniel. So since there are four of these in Daniel we need to be talking about the correct one so we are not deceived by the Harlot. Notice closely and you will see that it is Cyrus that was (so to speak) a friend of God. It being Cyrus the Great that Issued the decree to Rebuild the Temple, with witnesses of this found in Isaiah, so these things are very well documented in scriptures, and for that matter (even Secular History). Prophecy always holds near and far fulfilment; where they are very similar but not the same. So it's what I told you form the beginning: It's all a matter of attention to the details, to everything that's being said (not just part of it) We would not have put a man on the moon, even if one detail was overlooked, and that is the case with Harlot Doctrine: Some of the details are Always Always missing. But for the sake of clarity, the following has been agreed on by more than a thousand Pastors; and for that matter (by know) is common knowledge among tens of millions of Christians having no special associations with the Jewish people. Again, these conclusions are plain to see if a person is willing to consider all that is being said (rather than just part of it). And, this is just a small portion of the evidence below; so please keep shooting back, so all of the Gaps in your story will be exposed, even for all to see.

It all starts with 539 BC; when King Cyrus issued decree 7x7= 49 years to rebuild "Nehemiah's temple" as it is sometimes called.

Dan 9:25 - “You will discern that from the issuing of a decree to restore Jerusalem until Messiah the Prince there is to be seven weeks and sixty-two weeks [= 69 Weeks]. It will be rebuilt along with the plaza and moat; this will be done even in times of distress.”

Firstly, “Seven weeks” (7x7) accounts for the 49 years to rebuild Jerusalem “along with the plaza and moat”: At times during the forty-nine-years, they were receiving threats from the nations around them.

Neh 4:7-8 - When Sanballat, Tobiah, the Arabs, the Ammonites and the Ashdodites heard that the repair of the walls of Jerusalem went on, and that the breaches began to be closed, they were very angry. 8 All of them plotted together to come to fight against Jerusalem and to cause harm in it.

Then 62 more weeks of years: 434 years, taking us up to Savior being Impaled (33AD); leaving the remaining week (seven years) to be fulfilled in the Great Tribulations. Even it's even astounding to those who are unbelievers, that these calculations take us (precisely) to our Lord's execution, that is, when computed according to the Jewish calendar: With the following verse revealing the Harlot's manipulations of times even Her completely corrupted system of Law, overthrowing that of God's.

Dan 7:25 ‘He will speak out against the Most High and wear down the saints of the Highest One, and he will intend to make alterations in times and in law; and they will be given into his hand for a time, times, and half a time.

Dan 9:26 - “After the sixty-two weeks, Messiah will be cut off, having nothing to show for; then the people of the prince who is to come will destroy the city and the sanctuary. And its end will come with a flood; even to the end there will be war; and desolation is predetermined.”

Mar 13:2 - Jesus said to him, “Do you see these great buildings? Not one stone will be left upon another which will not be torn down.”

All this take us up to August of 70 AD where the prophecy of Daniel 9:26 in fulfilled...

Again, Please keep it coming Brother!!

Hello:

Cyrus king of Persia was certainly friendly towards the Jews, and he was first in signing a decree for them to start rebuilding their temple in Jerusalem (Year ca. 438 B.C. --2 Chron. 36:22-23; Ezra 1:1-4; 5:13). But it was King Artaxerxes Longanimus the one actually issuing the decree for the rebuilding of Jerusalem, and this in 445 B.C.

So, it is 445 B.C. the date we should consider as the start point for the 69 weeks of Dan 9:25 to finish their course with the cutting of Messiah/The Anointed in 33 A.D.

I can't deny that, for me, trying to be immersed in these things you guys are constantly debating, always feels like being in "war", I mean: in war!. I wish I could keep up with you some day . Bye.

 

[Friend]

Come on. That's clearly one beast. It simply has feet that are not fully strong. It's a mixture of strength and weakness in one beast.

Dan 2:40 And the fourth kingdom shall be strong as iron: forasmuch as iron breaketh in pieces and subdueth all things: and as iron that breaketh all these, shall it break in pieces and bruise.
Dan 2:41 And whereas thou sawest the feet and toes, part of potters' clay, and part of iron, the kingdom shall be divided; but there shall be in it of the strength of the iron, forasmuch as thou sawest the iron mixed with miry clay.
Dan 2:42 And as the toes of the feet were part of iron, and part of clay, so the kingdom shall be partly strong, and partly broken.
Dan 2:43 And whereas thou sawest iron mixed with miry clay, they shall mingle themselves with the seed of men: but they shall not cleave one to another, even as iron is not mixed with clay.

Clearly and obviously only one kingdom/beast is described here, 3 different times.

Bravo Brother: It is clear that Rondonmon is on a disinformation campaign here, I was encouraging everyone to always read the posts thoroughly; that is the ones that Rondonmon is Quoting as he is a master at putting a spin on one point, in order to distract people from seeing the main point a person is making...

 

[Pablo2021]

Yes brother: the Prince to come is what Daniel was being told: that is, the Sixth beast of Revelations, the Beast that already destroyed Jerusalem in August of AD, and over time imploding within it self; but will rise up again ("the wound that was healed") The details of the Sixth Beast's implosion (is also in the book of Daniel) Again, the Details of which are confirm by even (Secular Historians). So once again, It's always about acknowledging all that has been said, not just part of it... All of this information was suppress by the Harlot; but Her Refuge of Lies was destined to crumble... Paul was convinced that Even out of the Roman Congregation, that it would be these who would go out actively suppressing the truth. So accurate are the details and calculations of Daniel regarding four empires; even the prophecy leading up to August of 70 AD, and moreover, the propheies of Daniel fulfilled thereafter, that many Great Men/Historians have went on the record saying, "Daniel could not have been written until after the fact"...

Rom 1:18 For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men who suppress the truth in unrighteousness...

HA HA HA HA HA!!!!!! I HAVEN'T LAUGHED THIS LOUD AS HAVE RIGHT NOW when you refer to the wise men saying that Daniel could not have been written until after the fact"... And Yes, I can relate to their unbelief, I've been an unbelieving believer myself for so long. It hasn't been but till just recently that I started getting amazed at prophecy: when I first "really" realized that God was prophesying in the book of Isaiah the name, just the name, of Cyrus over 100 years before he was born, somethiing made me praise God for His foreknowledge about us. But His omniscence is not only amazing but glorious:

[Isa 45:1, 4-7, 13 KJV] 1 Thus saith the LORD to his anointed, to Cyrus, whose right hand I have holden, to subdue nations before him; and I will loose the loins of kings, to open before him the two leaved gates; and the gates shall not be shut; ...

4 For Jacob my servant's sake, and Israel mine elect, I have even called thee by thy name: I have surnamed thee, though thou hast not known me. 5 I [am] the LORD, and [there is] none else, [there is] no God beside me: I girded thee, though thou hast not known me:

6 That they may know from the rising of the sun, and from the west, that [there is] none beside me. I [am] the LORD, and [there is] none else.

7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these [things]. ... 13 I have raised him up in righteousness, and I will direct all his ways: he shall build my city, and he shall let go my captives, not for price nor reward, saith the LORD of hosts.
Hallelujah!!​

 

[Pablo2021]

Hello:

Cyrus king of Persia was certainly friendly towards the Jews, and he was first in signing a decree for them to start rebuilding their temple in Jerusalem (Year ca. 438 B.C. --2 Chron. 36:22-23; Ezra 1:1-4; 5:13). But it was King Artaxerxes Longanimus the one actually issuing the decree for the rebuilding of Jerusalem, and this in 445 B.C.

So, it is 445 B.C. the date we should consider as the start point for the 69 weeks of Dan 9:25 to finish their course with the cutting of Messiah/The Anointed in 33 A.D.

I can't deny that, for me, trying to be immersed in these things you guys are constantly debating, always feels like being in "war", I mean: in war!. I wish I could keep up with you some day . Bye.

PS: THIS LINK IS ABOUT THE PERSIAN DECREES IN FAVOR OF JERUSALEM:
https://jewishroots.net/library/prophecy/daniel/daniel-9-24-27/royal-decree.html

 

[Friend]

I destroy all your bad positions, I see you are one of those RCC is the eat guts, thus you lose all cred at that point with me, PERIOD.

Notice the Iron Legs AND then the Iron & Clay Feet? That is not ONE BEAST. I can't help that you can't grasp it. But I can see why you fail to grasp anything, you are down the ole Armstrong rabbit hole.

Again not my point at all: My point always was Daniel 9:26-27 relating to the Persian King issuing the decree for rebuilding Nehemiah's temple; and this fact being well established by sectarian Historians. Everybody!!! Always read everything that Rondonmon is Quoting, and you will see that even in this post he goes completely off subject; and form what I've seen, he does this every time. Rondonmon, You are always trying to appear as though you know something by going off subject, deflecting the main points that people are making, in order to shift the narrative to a more favorable position for you to deceive: I was making no point at all regarding the Harlot/clay/potter and Her beast/iron/empire. (the 6th ancient Rome and the 7th: the revived Roman empire/the wound that was healed/future... I answered his Folly, So let's see what he does with this?

 

[Rondonmon]

HA HA HA HA HA!!!!!! I HAVEN'T LAUGHED THIS LOUD AS HAVE RIGHT NOW when you refer to the wise men saying that Daniel could not have been written until after the fact"... And Yes, I can relate to their unbelief, I've been an unbelieving believer myself for so long. It hasn't been but till just recently that I started getting amazed at prophecy: when I first "really" realized that God was prophesying in the book of Isaiah the name, just the name, of Cyrus over 100 years before he was born, somethiing made me praise God for His foreknowledge about us. But His omniscence is not only amazing but glorious:

[Isa 45:1, 4-7, 13 KJV] 1 Thus saith the LORD to his anointed, to Cyrus, whose right hand I have holden, to subdue nations before him; and I will loose the loins of kings, to open before him the two leaved gates; and the gates shall not be shut; ...

4 For Jacob my servant's sake, and Israel mine elect, I have even called thee by thy name: I have surnamed thee, though thou hast not known me. 5 I [am] the LORD, and [there is] none else, [there is] no God beside me: I girded thee, though thou hast not known me:

6 That they may know from the rising of the sun, and from the west, that [there is] none beside me. I [am] the LORD, and [there is] none else.

7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these [things]. ... 13 I have raised him up in righteousness, and I will direct all his ways: he shall build my city, and he shall let go my captives, not for price nor reward, saith the LORD of hosts.
Hallelujah!!​

A Tidbit, Jesus' name is actually all throughout the Old Testament, Yeshua means Salvation, thus when the Angel told Joseph and Mary to name their baby Yeshua, it of course mean he was the Savior. But, in many places in the Old Testament where it says Salvation (Yeshua) and its spoken of in a personhood type of way (I can show you tomorrow) its just taking about Jesus or THY YESHUA Salvation.

 

[Friend]

There are 2 gatherings in mat 24.

Take a closer look.

The only way you can make it one gathering is to corrupt the second one that Jesus declares concerning noah and the one taken/ left.

Re read it.
Take a neutral posture and re read it.

Amen Brother: Here is a key verse: Jesus indicating there being more than one DOTLord pending; and notice the plural forms, and various end time scenarios provided here, and elsewhere in the scriptures.

Luk 17:22 And He/Jesus said to the disciples, “The days will come when you will long to see one of the days of the Son of Man, and you will not see it.

Brother I agree: Firstly the context of Noah's times: That no one could have possibly known the exact moment it was going to rain; because it had never rained before. This is Jesus providing the scenario where no one could have possibly know, saying that we should always remain at alert!! The context is that of people completely unconcerned and carrying on as if there was nothing out of the ordinary, nothing to be concerned about. Jesus follows with two more examples showing people going about their normal business; but where one is taken and the other left behind. The main point of it all: water providing Salvation/the word lifting them up, with the same word/water purging the wicked from the earth.

With the wicked; well, it's always a matter of disregarding the fine details, setting their hearts on the traditions of those having terrorized the earth/The Great Harlot.​

Mat 24:38-42 "For as in those days before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noah entered the ark, 39 and they did not understand until the flood came and took them all away; so will the coming of the Son of Man be. 40 "Then there will be two men in the field; one will be taken and one will be left. 41"Two women will be grinding at the mill; one will be taken and one will be left. 42 "Therefore be on the alert, for you do not know which day your Lord is coming.

 

[Absolutely]

Yes Brother: We are saying these things (because there is a Treaty for seven years), and the terms of the treaty are for unfettered access to the temple building area; it showing measurements for the people relating to tailoring of the Levite's clothing and the altar, and above all, the temple's placement in preparation for building it. Then it's safe to say that building the Temple is going to take less than 3.5 years in order for it to be functional. Daniel indicates that the Beast puts an end to the daily sacrifice in the middle of the week. It would be crazy to say that two Prophets/witnesses who stand in the presence of our Lord are not knowing the Beast/people who they are dealing with. The Sackcloth they are wearing indicative of being in the times of Great Distress; Fire coming out of their mouth indicative of them being in command of Israel's Army. It is easy to see that any treaty with the beast would be in fact the beast buying time in order to mobilize troops into the valley of Megiddo. Rondonmon says that no one will know who the beast is until His Image goes into the temple. But how could this be: It indicates everyone was knowing the two Prophets who were tormenting them, all sending gifts to one another when they were killed. It's obvious these are the enemies of God who have taken the mark of the Beast. If the two Prophets lay there dead for more than three and half days then the peoples of the Beast and the Harlot are off the hook, but if the rise, what does it say? It says that the nations are in Rage...

Rev 11:10 And those who dwell on the earth will rejoice over them and celebrate; and they will send gifts to one another, because these two prophets tormented those who dwell on the earth.

Everyone in the world is watching two dead bodies, therefore everyone is knowing who they are, it is so crazy to say that no one is knowing who the beast is; after all it is the beast who breaks the treaty and everyone is knowing who the beast is; Jesus indicates when it is time to run. Everyone was told to build image dedicated to Him. It is all so crazy to say these things; but that's what it says: that the false prophets would deceive the unsuspecting, that the false prophets are unreasoning creatures of instinct, rather than having the Spirit of God; completely blinded by their father the Devil. I am saying these things because I care for the true people of God who have been allowed to see these things; and like Jesus and Paul exposing those having taken the platforms, but now in our own times. Thanks for commenting Brother...

"""Rondonmon says that no one will know who the beast is until His Image goes into the temple"""
Could you clarify;
Do you mean they will not know he is the false Christ?
Or that they will not know he is the white horse ride of the 4 horsemen?