None of them say the rapture happens before the tribulation or that Jesus returns before the tribulation. If they existed then this wouldn't even be a debate or a discussion to be had.
2 Peter 3:10-13
King James Version
10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall
melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.
11 Seeing then that all these things shall be dissolved, what manner of persons ought ye to be in all holy conversation and godliness,
12 Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat?
13 Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness.
Revelation 20:7-10
King James Version
7 And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison,
8 And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog, and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea.
9 And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and
fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them.
10 And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever.
2 Thessalonians 2:8-12
King James Version
8 And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming:
9 Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,
10 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.
11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:
12 That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.
Then when the Real Jesus Christ comes back, God's children (God's elects) will first meet Jesus Christ in the air and Satan's children will be hiding under rocks and mountains.
Everyone is going to see Jesus Christ. (Revelation 1:7)
Then the 7th trumpet which is the last trumpet is blown (Revelation 11:15-19, 1 Thessalonians 4:16-18, 1 Corinthians 15:52, Matthew 24:30-31, Isaiah 11:11-12), Jesus Christ comes and
every eye will see him (Revelation 1:7) "7Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen."
and
"For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be." (Matthew 24:27)
and
"For as the lightning, that lighteneth out of the one part under heaven, shineth unto the other part under heaven; so shall also the Son of man be in his day." (Luke 17:24)
and
"30And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.
31And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other." (Matthew 24:30-31).
1Th 4:13 But I would not have you to be ignorant, brethren, concerning them which are asleep, that ye sorrow not, even as others which have no hope.
1Th 4:14 For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with him.(second coming reference)
1Th 4:15 For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord (second coming reference) shall not prevent them which are asleep.
1Th 4:16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven (second coming reference) with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: (the resurrection of the dead in Christ)
1Th 4:17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord. (the rapture)
The resurrection only happens at the second coming and the second coming can only happen after the trib has ended, and since the verses tell us the rapture happens AFTER the resurrection and second coming.
Don't where you guys get your 1000 year physical kingdom, there is no more waiting. First coming is when Jesus dead, rose from the dead and later rose to right hand of God to set up 1000 spiritual kingdom. 2nd coming is when he burns down the old heaven and old earth. False prophecies must have been set up by Satan, so that when he comes with great false miracles and all nonelects will worship him as the fake 2nd Coming of Jesus. I also know God will send strong delusion on all nonelects.
Revelation 21:1 King James Version
21 And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away (got burned down); and there was no more sea.
Mark 13:26-27
King James Version (KJV)
26 And then shall they see the Son of man coming in the clouds with great power and glory.
27 And then shall he send his angels, and shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from the uttermost part of the earth to the uttermost part of heaven.
1000 year kingdom is a spiritual kingdom when Jesus sat down on the right hand of God. All of God's elects receive Holy Spirit get transferred from Satan's kingdom to Christ's 1000 year spiritual kingdom.
Looks like the old heaven and old earth gets burned down, along with the nonelects physical bodies.
Then read 1 Corinthians 15:12-58 which talks about God's elects
changing from physical bodies to spiritual bodies quicker than the blink of an eye.
In 1 Corinthians 15:50 it says "that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God" which
means we can't go to Heaven with our physical bodies,
which is why God will change them into spiritual bodies.
Than all souls get judged.
Separation between sheeps (God's elects) and goats (nonelects):
Isaiah 65, Ezekiel 34, Matthew 13:36-49, Matthew 25:31-46 and Luke 6:20-26
Great white throne is the judgment day.
Revelation 20:11-15, Matthew 7:21-23, Matthew 25:31-46 and John 5:26-30.
Jesus gives back his kingdom to God the Father, after everything is finished. (1 Corinthians 15:24-28)
It is when new Heaven and new earth are created.
(Isaiah 35:10, Isaiah 62:1-12, Isaiah 65:17-25, Zephaniah 3:9-20 and Revelation 21-22)