Jew First Then The Greek

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Jews defending Christians? I have read that Jews who adhere to the teachings of Jesus Christ are lacking when it comes to defending Christians. Following a string of pure logic, anyone who believes Jesus Christ knows He was a Jew, and His teachings are for the Jew first and then the Greek. This expression is easily said as the Jew first then for the nations. The majority of the people mentioned in the New Testament are Jews, very few exceptions, until Paul took the Word to the gentiles, as was his ministry. Peter's ministry was to the Jews; these two ministries are indicated in the New Testament.
The word, Christian, was first used at Antioch, however the transliteration is from the Greek. The transliteration would be correct from the Hebrew using Messianics, or people in the Messiah.
People today who call themselves Christians are not going to go back to their origins and correct this misnommer, and I certainly cannot convince a world of these proselytes to do so, but perhaps some will.
If we, being the unatural graft, do not defend the natural vine, then we are in terrible danger of being cut out and burned in the fire. Is it not preferable to work for those Jews who have not yet understood Messiah to be grafted back into the natural vine?
No one is willing to defend apostasy. God is Spirit, and He would to be worshipped in Spirit and Truth. Do not be afraid of being a Jew, Jesus was a Jew.
 
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A Jewish person could of been saved by the grace of our Father Almighty Yahweh God through accepting Yeshua our Saviour.


The problem is we are all people, we are either for or against Almighty Yahweh God, we accept salvation or we don't.

So there are Jewish people by ethnicity........ Just like there are Chinese people who accept the gift of Salvation from Yahweh Almighty God through Yeshua our saviour.


We must not lose sight that we are not bound by ethnicity if we love Almighty Yahweh God and Yeshua our Messiah with all are heart and soul.

Where did the gentiles originate from?
 
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loveme1 said:
A Jewish person could of been saved by the grace of our Father Almighty Yahweh God through accepting Yeshua our Saviour.


The problem is we are all people, we are either for or against Almighty Yahweh God, we accept salvation or we don't.

So there are Jewish people by ethnicity........ Just like there are Chinese people who accept the gift of Salvation from Yahweh Almighty God through Yeshua our saviour.


We must not lose sight that we are not bound by ethnicity if we love Almighty Yahweh God and Yeshua our Messiah with all are heart and soul.

Where did the gentiles originate from?
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Hello Loveme. As far as I believe by faith, gentiles are descendant of Noah, as are all people. Please do not think for a split second that I even begin to think Jews are not my family, whether they have come to Yeshua or not. That would be judging, and in judging such, I would be judged. No way would I ever even approach such a declaration. Yahweh hold you near and keep you always, Loveme...amen
 
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JaumeJ said:
Hello Loveme. As far as I believe by faith, gentiles are descendant of Noah, as are all people. Please do not think for a split second that I even begin to think Jews are not my family, whether they have come to Yeshua or not. That would be judging, and in judging such, I would be judged. No way would I ever even approach such a declaration. Yahweh hold you near and keep you always, Loveme...amen
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I was born to serve my Almighty Yahweh God, I never understood Yeshua my saviour's sacrifice was for my eternal life....

I was set free by the truth, and how blessed we are to be of Almighty Yahweh God who sent Yeshua our Messiah.

We all were meant to be here at this point in time, we have rejected the lies, we have declared our loyalty, who we love with all our heart and soul.

From start until end of this world, we were always going to come to witness the truth, but we could not start until we accepted salvation.
 
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When will man look past the flesh and read the book for what is written. " Don't you know you are a jew inwardly" or the quicken of God. the greeks are the one stll asleep and not awaken but God yet. I know thats over your heads.
 
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inward and not outward, is that not what i said with many more words? :)

Chinese on the outside, Yahweh God Almighty on the inside. Salvation comes from within.
 
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loveme1 said:
inward and not outward, is that not what i said with many more words? :)

Chinese on the outside, Yahweh God Almighty on the inside. Salvation comes from within.
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Amen it's like romans say's "the word is near you in your heart and in your mouth." Gee I wonder how it got there you haven't confess it yet. Did god do something without a man permission?
 
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loveme1 said:
inward and not outward, is that not what i said with many more words? :)

Chinese on the outside, Yahweh God Almighty on the inside. Salvation comes from within.
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Since the day God's Spirit came into me, I have said this to whom ever would listen. If a believer cannot see beyond his own skin or hers, if a it makes a difference to a believer how the vessel appears on the outside, they do not really know or see what is inside. Many folks cannot get past the color of their own skin or beyond the flag of their territory to see the spirit within of believers from other ethnicities, color or nationality, and this as a very poor position in which to be.
Our Father is Spirit, He would to be worshipped in Spirit and Truth. How can we become exactly like Yeshua (Jesus) if we think He is as we are in our physical condition. We are to worship Yahweh in Spirit and in Truth, not in flesh. This is a share for others, not the beginning of some perverse debate. If you disagree, that is your perogative, however everything here is based on over 40 years of Holy Scripture study. God bless all in Jesus Christ, and all who will come to Him, amen.
 
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Amen it's like romans say's "the word is near you in your heart and in your mouth." Gee I wonder how it got there you haven't confess it yet. Did god do something without a man permission?
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Are you following me round today? :)


Sorry though i miss your last point...

Why Yahweh God needs man's permission is over my head :)
 
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Are you following me round today? :)


Sorry though i miss your last point...

Why Yahweh God needs man's permission is over my head :)
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THATS THE POINT HE DOESN'T. HE DOES WHAT HE WANTS WHEN HE WANTS TO FULLFILL HIS GOOD PLEASURE TO HIS CREATION.
 
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Then it did not go over my head :)

It was always in my head....................
 
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loveme1 said:
inward and not outward, is that not what i said with many more words? :)

Chinese on the outside, Yahweh God Almighty on the inside. Salvation comes from within.
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Scripture says there is a difference between Jew and Gentile. In Romans it talks of us being grafted in to the main root. We are not to think we are superior. There are many scriptures about the Hebrews.

Roman 11:25

25 I do not want you to be ignorant of this mystery, brothers and sisters, so that you may not think you are superior: Israel has experienced a hardening in part until the full number of the Gentiles has come in, 26 and in this way all Israel will be saved.
 
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JaumeJ said:
Jews defending Christians? I have read that Jews who adhere to the teachings of Jesus Christ are lacking when it comes to defending Christians. Following a string of pure logic, anyone who believes Jesus Christ knows He was a Jew, and His teachings are for the Jew first and then the Greek. This expression is easily said as the Jew first then for the nations. The majority of the people mentioned in the New Testament are Jews, very few exceptions, until Paul took the Word to the gentiles, as was his ministry. Peter's ministry was to the Jews; these two ministries are indicated in the New Testament.
The word, Christian, was first used at Antioch, however the transliteration is from the Greek. The transliteration would be correct from the Hebrew using Messianics, or people in the Messiah.
People today who call themselves Christians are not going to go back to their origins and correct this misnommer, and I certainly cannot convince a world of these proselytes to do so, but perhaps some will.
If we, being the unatural graft, do not defend the natural vine, then we are in terrible danger of being cut out and burned in the fire. Is it not preferable to work for those Jews who have not yet understood Messiah to be grafted back into the natural vine?
No one is willing to defend apostasy. God is Spirit, and He would to be worshipped in Spirit and Truth. Do not be afraid of being a Jew, Jesus was a Jew.
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People, you are going off on a tangent..........the above is the post.
 
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Romans 2:28-29
(28) For he is not a Jew, which is one outwardly; neither is that circumcision, which is outward in the flesh:
(29) But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God.
Galatians 3:29
(29) And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.

The book of Acts is divided into 2 parts, the first part is mainly Peter the Apostle to the Jews, then after the stoning of Stephen which ended the 70 week prophecy in Daniel 9 which was for the Jews
Daniel 9:24
(24) Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy.

After the stoning of Stephen we then see Paul the Apostle to the gentiles and from there the book of Acts it is about the gospel going to the Gentiles
 
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Laodicea said:
Romans 2:28-29
(28) For he is not a Jew, which is one outwardly; neither is that circumcision, which is outward in the flesh:
(29) But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God.
Galatians 3:29
(29) And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.

The book of Acts is divided into 2 parts, the first part is mainly Peter the Apostle to the Jews, then after the stoning of Stephen which ended the 70 week prophecy in Daniel 9 which was for the Jews
Daniel 9:24
(24) Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy.

After the stoning of Stephen we then see Paul the Apostle to the gentiles and from there the book of Acts it is about the gospel going to the Gentiles
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Amen. Everyone should read this post and seriously meditate on its meaning.
 
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Scripture, is always the way to make a point :) For ALmighty Yahweh God
 
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