Ah I like this convo! Hahaha of course. I never said Jews weren't stubborn. Lol I am an assistant to my Rabbi and I tell you Yeshua's lessons come to life when dealing with them LOL. But I love them regardless
Jesus informs us to call no man on earth Rabbi as master or teacher And in the same way we are to call no man father on earth .The unconverted Jew violates both commandments
He warns of those who do insist we need a man seen the temporal to teach us regardless of what nation to include a Jew.
These things have
I written unto you concerning them that seduce you. But the anointing which ye have received of
him abideth in you, and
ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as
it hath taught you,
ye shall abide in him.1 John2:26-27
The Holy Spirit is the teacher and the person in whom we seek the approval of. Why would be put our trust in the things seen the temporal" It is usually there where the Judaizers hide. And in doing so expose themselves as antichrists (many) . They need a fleshly man to teach them as a law of the fathers. Just like the Cathlics
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What I state here is in reference to the Jewish - Christian relationship (the Jesus - Nation relationship is very different because they never knew G-d and who he really is, so knowing G-d through Jesus is amazing, of course if done righteously)
LOL Done righteously through the Rabbi's? Of course they know who God is .He gives us his living abiding word as the faith that works in us to make it possible . God is not a man as us. Neither Gentile or Jew, male nor female
a) I do not know your stance on scripture and that is fine but the evidence proves that the 2000+ years of Christian's theology unfortunately for (Jews, not necessarily the nations) has not been "productive". Strangely though, in the 1st century MANY if not most believers were, in fact, Jews (and there was no secular or conservative Jews, just Orthodox and maybe rebellious of course lol). So put the math together, there must be something "wrong" with Christian theology (not necessarily people) in proving that Yeshua is the Mashiach.
God isnot been bringing any new revelations the last one closed the cannon .We are warned not to add or substract from the whole the perfect has come. Why go above that which is written?
b) For any believer, if I simply say "I believe in Jesus", is that all there is too it? What is valued more? Striving as a human being to be like Avraham, loving your enemies, living for G-d and His ways and fighting your temptations OR simply stating I believe in someone and being a hypocrite in your lifestyle? (For Yeshua's commands are high!) (The context of this questions is which one is better if you cannot do both.).
Striving to be like Jesus the Son of man .Abraham a sinner is not the one set aside to follow after.
c) If you actually get to know and study the Jews and their culture and even the Talmud...you'll be fascinated to see that they "naturally" follow many of the commands Yeshua stated and what the disciples did, especially on Shabbat! But yet those who "believe" struggle to get to church and yet condemn those who don't believe and think everyone else is going to "hell" (for the most part). So what would you choose? The people who actually live like Yeshua commanded and G-d of course, or join the people who confess with their lips...but their actions are weak? (Of course I have met amazing Christians too but for the most part)
But for the most part? For the whole part it has nothing to do with the flesh Gentile or Jew .When it comes to salvation God puts no difference between the two. He does not look to the pigment of sinful flesh or the sound of their language (tongue)
d) Did you know that most Jews, especially Orthodox Jews hate Jesus not on the account of reading the NT (For MOST never even laid hands on it, because it would be like studying witchcraft in their eyes), but on the account of Jesus's followers and the Christian bloodbath towards them (just as recent as the Holocaust). Would you even read about a "guy" and under who's name has been used to slaughter and torture Jews verbally and physically? ("You Christ-Killer....You G-d Killer...You Legalistic Jew....etc. which I hear many Jews today tell me when they were kids)
Satan is a murder from the beginning.
e) Do you know what it means to blaspheme a name? It is not simple "stating His name" in a foul sense, but...it is how you "represent" that name. For if I say I am Professor so and so's best student and then you are challenged and you fail miserably, who looks worse, the student or the one who taught them?
Blaspheme is like plagiarism which is to attribute the work of the author to another party . It the same as the first commandment, don't usurp the teaching authority and give it to other gods in the likeness of men . Because you insist we do need to be taught by a Rabbi as that seen then a person has violated the first commandment. It protects like flaming sword the one author and finisher of our new faith that alone come from hearing God
*So I pointed these facts out not to insult the Christian's relationship to Jews, but to bring to light so facts that hopefully can be resolved through using all the tools we have! (Spririt, Love, Our Minds, Our Hands etc). For all has been given by G-d for a reason, even down to our small little toe! It can all be used for the glory of G-d and if we proclaim to LOVE Him and His Son....then we better get to work!
Using the right tools...….. like according to His loving commandment to rightfully divide His word as we seek His approval .Not the approval of Jew or gentiles as the things of men
I would think that if Jesus wanted to say study to shew thyself approved unto the Rabbis as that seen rather than God not seen he would have moved Paul to write those words
2 Timothy 2:15 Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth
