Jezebel Spirit
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Not sure what the problem is. The invention of the 'Jezebel spirit' and others like it are the best thing to happen to Christians in a long time. Sin? No, that wasn't me, blame it on the Jezebel spirit that made me do it.
See, perfect, this way you never have to take responsibility for your actions because everything is a spirits fault, not yours. This is awesome =D
See, perfect, this way you never have to take responsibility for your actions because everything is a spirits fault, not yours. This is awesome =D
K
One may conclude anything by isolating a single sentence or phrase from another's quote, as you have done by singling out the last sentence.
The Jezebel spirit wants to direct us away from our Maker, and uses many devises to do so. There are levels of wickedness as scripture says, "Matthew 12:
[SUP]43 [/SUP]“When an unclean spirit comes out of a person, it travels through dry country seeking rest and does not find it. [SUP]44 [/SUP]Then it says to itself, ‘I will return to the house I left.’ When it arrives, it finds the house standing empty, swept clean and put in order. [SUP]45 [/SUP]Then it goes and takes with it seven other spirits more evil than itself, and they come and live there — so that in the end, the person is worse off than he was before. This is how it will be for this wicked generation.”
The Jezebel spirit wants to direct us away from our Maker, and uses many devises to do so. There are levels of wickedness as scripture says, "Matthew 12:
[SUP]43 [/SUP]“When an unclean spirit comes out of a person, it travels through dry country seeking rest and does not find it. [SUP]44 [/SUP]Then it says to itself, ‘I will return to the house I left.’ When it arrives, it finds the house standing empty, swept clean and put in order. [SUP]45 [/SUP]Then it goes and takes with it seven other spirits more evil than itself, and they come and live there — so that in the end, the person is worse off than he was before. This is how it will be for this wicked generation.”
K
While ultimately we must take responsibility for our words and deeds, we do ourselves a disservice not knowing scripture. Scripture tells us we are in a battle for our very souls, and gives us knowledge and wisdom, discernment and gifts. Why sayeth scripture "resist the devil and he will flee from you" were it not possible for him to control us?
Just what is a "Jezebel spirit"? Does one get possessed by the "spirit of Jezebel"? Jezebel was into idolatry and she led others into idolatry . . . so if her spirit was to "possess" one - then the characteristics of the person "possessed" would be akin to idolatry. I can't find any scripture concerning being "possessed by the spirit of Jezebel" nor even concerning a "Jezebel spirit". If it is just a name given to people into idolatry . . . we could use any of the "Kings" names that "did evil in the sight of the Lord" by worshipping other gods - the "spirit of Jeroboam" - set up two golden calves - Here are your gods Israel [1 Kings 12:28]; the "spirit of Rehoboam" King of Judah . . . Judah did evil in the eyes of the Lord. . . they stirred up his jealous anger more than those who were before them had done [1 Kings 14:21,22]; the "spirit of Nadab" king of Israel . . . He did evil in the eyes of the LORD, following the ways of his father and committing the same sin his father [Jeroboam] had caused Israel to commit [1 Kings 15:25,26] and on and on it goes . . .
K
My previous partial quote omission had no bearing whatsoever on the point being made by me (in blue). Your comment above (in bold black) could be viewed by even the mildest of discerning readers as an attempt by you to mislead or misdirect ...i.e... "by isolating a single sentence from a quote as you have done" .... perhaps implying that I was trying to be sneaky ... maybe even jezebel like. Would you disagree with my first reply to you (in blue) ?
K
We are not at war with each other, and this is what is so important to understand, our war is not with flesh, it is with the spirit realm.
My intent was to point out that targeted one sentence (..everything being personal) does not correctly convey the Jezebel spirit, because all spirits are not Jezebel. I accuse you of nothing other than misunderstanding my post, as your answer demonstrates.
Again, see how many posts here are personal? this thread, t's not about you or me, rather these spiritual demons that can influence people, and ignorance of tactical warefare is found in scripture..for instance,
Proverbs 4:
[SUP]7 [/SUP]Wisdom is the principal thing; therefore get wisdom: and with all thy getting get understanding.
[SUP]8 [/SUP]Exalt her, and she shall promote thee: she shall bring thee to honour, when thou dost embrace her.
[SUP]9 [/SUP]She shall give to thine head an ornament of grace: a crown of glory shall she deliver to thee.
further on..
Proverbs 5:
[SUP]3 [/SUP]For the lips of a strange woman drop as an honeycomb, and her mouth is smoother than oil:
[SUP]4 [/SUP]But her end is bitter as wormwood, sharp as a two-edged sword.
My intent was to point out that targeted one sentence (..everything being personal) does not correctly convey the Jezebel spirit, because all spirits are not Jezebel. I accuse you of nothing other than misunderstanding my post, as your answer demonstrates.
Again, see how many posts here are personal? this thread, t's not about you or me, rather these spiritual demons that can influence people, and ignorance of tactical warefare is found in scripture..for instance,
Proverbs 4:
[SUP]7 [/SUP]Wisdom is the principal thing; therefore get wisdom: and with all thy getting get understanding.
[SUP]8 [/SUP]Exalt her, and she shall promote thee: she shall bring thee to honour, when thou dost embrace her.
[SUP]9 [/SUP]She shall give to thine head an ornament of grace: a crown of glory shall she deliver to thee.
further on..
Proverbs 5:
[SUP]3 [/SUP]For the lips of a strange woman drop as an honeycomb, and her mouth is smoother than oil:
[SUP]4 [/SUP]But her end is bitter as wormwood, sharp as a two-edged sword.
Notice carefully:
Revelation 2:18-23 (KJV) [SUP]18 [/SUP]And unto the angel (pastor, preaching elder) of the church in Thyatira write; These things saith the Son of God, who hath his eyes like unto a flame of fire, and his feet are like fine brass; [SUP]19 [/SUP]I know thy works, and charity, and service, and faith, and thy patience, and thy works; and the last to be more than the first. [SUP]20 [/SUP]Notwithstanding I have a few things against thee, because thou sufferest (permits) that woman Jezebel, which calleth herself a prophetess, to teach and to seduce my servants to commit fornication, and to eat things sacrificed unto idols. [SUP]21 [/SUP]And I gave her space to repent of her fornication; and she repented not. [SUP]22 [/SUP]Behold, I will cast her into a bed, and them that commit adultery with her into great tribulation, except they repent of their deeds. [SUP]23 [/SUP]And I will kill her children(those won over) with death; and all the churches shall know that I am he which searcheth the reins and hearts: and I will give unto every one of you according to your works.
This was written to the head elder (Pastor) of the church. What was happening? The pastor was allowing someone in his church (whether by permission or silent consent) to inspire the members to commit fornication (both spiritual & physical).
Here's what we have: 1) a woman possessed with an evil spirit, and, 2) this evil spirit seducing the members to sin through her. Both internal & external spiritual influence is involved. But..... only sinners can be possessed. The true church can only be externally persuaded.(inspired, tempted)
Therefore, we can conclude that evil, demonic spirits can both use people both inwardly (possession) and outwardly (listening to false inspiration, teaching, preaching, etc.). Remember, the evil spirit does not need a person to perform this.
If the Devil would dare tempt Jesus all by himself, not possessing another, can we not assume he will do it to Christ's church? Which of us lives in such an impregnable fortress of a temple that an evil spirit can't tempt us to sin? The best temptation is the kind that succeeds without us even realizing it. This is what's happening in the great falling away..... by the millions.
We can also conclude that if the church is charged as guilty of permitting such a thing that said church is responsible to expose & rid itself of such evil.
Ephesians 5:6-14 (NASB95) [SUP]6 [/SUP]Let no one deceive you with empty words, for because of these things the wrath of God comes upon the sons of disobedience. [SUP]7 [/SUP]Therefore do not be partakers with them; [SUP]8 [/SUP]for you were formerly darkness, but now you are Light in the Lord; walk as children of Light [SUP]9 [/SUP](for the fruit of the Light consists in all goodness and righteousness and truth), [SUP]10 [/SUP]trying to learn what is pleasing to the Lord. [SUP]11 [/SUP]Do not participate in the unfruitful deeds of darkness, but instead even expose them; [SUP]12 [/SUP]for it is disgraceful even to speak of the things which are done by them in secret. [SUP]13 [/SUP]But all things become visible when they are exposed by the light, for everything that becomes visible is light. [SUP]14 [/SUP]For this reason it says, "Awake, sleeper, And arise from the dead, And Christ will shine on you."
Revelation 2:18-23 (KJV) [SUP]18 [/SUP]And unto the angel (pastor, preaching elder) of the church in Thyatira write; These things saith the Son of God, who hath his eyes like unto a flame of fire, and his feet are like fine brass; [SUP]19 [/SUP]I know thy works, and charity, and service, and faith, and thy patience, and thy works; and the last to be more than the first. [SUP]20 [/SUP]Notwithstanding I have a few things against thee, because thou sufferest (permits) that woman Jezebel, which calleth herself a prophetess, to teach and to seduce my servants to commit fornication, and to eat things sacrificed unto idols. [SUP]21 [/SUP]And I gave her space to repent of her fornication; and she repented not. [SUP]22 [/SUP]Behold, I will cast her into a bed, and them that commit adultery with her into great tribulation, except they repent of their deeds. [SUP]23 [/SUP]And I will kill her children(those won over) with death; and all the churches shall know that I am he which searcheth the reins and hearts: and I will give unto every one of you according to your works.
This was written to the head elder (Pastor) of the church. What was happening? The pastor was allowing someone in his church (whether by permission or silent consent) to inspire the members to commit fornication (both spiritual & physical).
Here's what we have: 1) a woman possessed with an evil spirit, and, 2) this evil spirit seducing the members to sin through her. Both internal & external spiritual influence is involved. But..... only sinners can be possessed. The true church can only be externally persuaded.(inspired, tempted)
Therefore, we can conclude that evil, demonic spirits can both use people both inwardly (possession) and outwardly (listening to false inspiration, teaching, preaching, etc.). Remember, the evil spirit does not need a person to perform this.
If the Devil would dare tempt Jesus all by himself, not possessing another, can we not assume he will do it to Christ's church? Which of us lives in such an impregnable fortress of a temple that an evil spirit can't tempt us to sin? The best temptation is the kind that succeeds without us even realizing it. This is what's happening in the great falling away..... by the millions.
We can also conclude that if the church is charged as guilty of permitting such a thing that said church is responsible to expose & rid itself of such evil.
Ephesians 5:6-14 (NASB95) [SUP]6 [/SUP]Let no one deceive you with empty words, for because of these things the wrath of God comes upon the sons of disobedience. [SUP]7 [/SUP]Therefore do not be partakers with them; [SUP]8 [/SUP]for you were formerly darkness, but now you are Light in the Lord; walk as children of Light [SUP]9 [/SUP](for the fruit of the Light consists in all goodness and righteousness and truth), [SUP]10 [/SUP]trying to learn what is pleasing to the Lord. [SUP]11 [/SUP]Do not participate in the unfruitful deeds of darkness, but instead even expose them; [SUP]12 [/SUP]for it is disgraceful even to speak of the things which are done by them in secret. [SUP]13 [/SUP]But all things become visible when they are exposed by the light, for everything that becomes visible is light. [SUP]14 [/SUP]For this reason it says, "Awake, sleeper, And arise from the dead, And Christ will shine on you."
Trying to defend yourself ? and not accepting correction from those who are clearly more spiritual than you! Yep your got it buddy ! You for sure have the Jezebel spirit! Its really sad 
While you've helped me immensely to expose you for the fraud you are, you've also proven by your fruit that this spirit does exists. For that I thank you.
Hi Stephen:
First off I will say that I do believe in demons influencing people but to call a specific spirit as "Jezebel's spirit", i.e. the spirit of Jezebel is to imply that people are possessed by other people, i.e. dead people. Are dead people's spirits demons or are demons fallen angels that fell when Satan puffed himself up to usurp God?
Rev. 2:20 does refer to Jezebel. But it couldn't mean the real Jezebel, that would mean that the dead can come back to earth and inhabit people. I believe that people in the Church in Thyatira were being deceived by someone, who LIKE Jezebel, were leading people into idolatry [which is metaphorically speaking of fornication and adultery]. Jezebel lead Ahab son of Omri, king of Israel, to serve Baal and worship him, i.e. idolatry [1 Kings 16:31]; Jezebel was killing off the LORD's prophets [1 Kings 18:4, 13]; the prophets of Baal [false god] and the prophets of Asherah [false god] ate at her table [1 Kings 18:19]; she plotted and had Naboth stoned to death so her husband could take possession of his vineyard [1 Kings 21:1,15]. BTW, Ahab humbled himself before God and repented [1 Kings 21:27] It was prophesied that she would die, and not be buried but be devoured by dogs - "take care of that cursed woman, he said, and bury her, for she was a king's daughter." But when they went out to bury her, they found nothing except her skull, her feet and her hands. [2 Kings 9:34-36] When reading about Jezebel, I read plenty of idolatry but nothing of a sexual nature. Albeit some of the pagan gods were worshipped for this intention. Wouldn't implying or calling a spirit by a person's name imply that one is possessed by a dead person? Wouldn't that fall under the realm of witchcraft, or necromancer?
I agree that the leadership of a church should take notice of anyone leading others to stray against God and worship anyone or anything before God - who commit fornication and adultery against God by loving and serving other gods. We are not to have any gods before the one true God that is the first and great commandment. These are sons of disobedience - usually professing to be Christians but are not - wolves in sheep's clothing. I don't believe that we should call it the "spirit of Jezebel" - the term is not used and to someone unlearned - it seems that one can be possessed by a dead person. That's what seems wrong . . . . just my opinion, nothing more.
M
First you say there's no such thing, & now you accuse someone of having what you say doesn't exist? Either way, it's quite obvious what your intentions are.
While you've helped me immensely to expose you for the fraud you are, you've also proven by your fruit that this spirit does exists. For that I thank you.
While you've helped me immensely to expose you for the fraud you are, you've also proven by your fruit that this spirit does exists. For that I thank you.
K
Are you saying some have a Ms Olson spirit? I think I seen a guy that had a Otis Camble spirit from Mayberry? Or as the bible calls is , he was a drunk The flesh is well described in the bible...we don't have to make up silly religious spirits to make it something its not.
I think I seen a guy that had a Otis Camble spirit from Mayberry? Or as the bible calls is , he was a drunk The flesh is well described in the bible...we don't have to make up silly religious spirits to make it something its not.