Joel Osteen's Night Of Hope 2016 // Street Preachers Rebuke American Gospel

[AVoiceintheWilderness]

I detect a pattern, here, among those who continue to support Osteen ministries.

All throughout this thread it is being repeated that the one great thing about Osteen ministries is that they "encourage and lift up the Body of Christ".

I really have to ask those who are saying this, "What, exactly, is it that you consider the 'Body of Christ?'"

Do you believe that every person on the Earth that claims to be a Christian and has attended church at one time or another makes up the 'True' "Body of Christ?"

If so, you need to do some Bible research on that topic and I feel certain you will change your minds about that assessment and discover that the Osteen ministries do absolutely 'NOTHING' for the 'True' Body of Christ.

Only God can build a church.

(Psalm 127:1) Unless the Lord builds the house, They labor in vain who build it;

There are so many 'countless' so-called churches on the Earth, is it even reasonable that they could all be legit 'IN GOD'S EYES?'

Is it even possible, then, that all the people in those 'countless' churches are saved?

Modern churches are money-making institutions run for the sheer purpose of putting butts in the pews and growing in congregation 'AND INCOME.' ANY doctrine that threatens any part of that equation is flat-out not allowed to be preached.
(Ask ANY current preacher/pastor who has experience in a modern church.)

This is true for 98% of the churches in the world. YES, it is. It is also 'TAUGHT' in modern seminaries.

Modern mainstream churches are run like businesses, and fast-food businesses at that.

All that matters, concerning their message as a whole, is how it looks, how it smells and how it tastes. Nutrition is not factored in whatsoever.

So, again, I ask. What, exactly, is this 'Body of Christ' that those, here, feel are being encouraged and uplifted by the Osteen ministries?

 

[AVoiceintheWilderness]

Oh so you put in a bogus birthdateis all....ok moving along....

Pleased I was able to clear up that constipation for you, eph.

ERRR... I mean consternation. My bad.

Now, you can get on with your day.

 

[Sirk]

Still amazes me that people get so caught up about this. I am reluctant to reply to comments about my age because:

1. It has been covered in detail in other threads.

2. It has absolutely 'NOTHING' to do with the info that I present, here. Zero relevance whatsoever. The info is either biblically accurate or it is not. (And not one single person has taken exception to a single thing I've posted CONCERNING SCRIPTURAL TRUTH.)

3. I was never 'ASKED' for my age when signing up, here. I was only asked for a birth date, to which I felt that info was personal, private and 100% irrelevant and inconsequential to the info I am here to discuss, that being the Word of God. Therefore I entered a random number with zero intent to deceive, period. I certainly wouldn't have chosen to appear as an underage minor. What would that gain me? Yet, I'm still surprised it has caused so many to ignore the info presented.

A very interesting experiment in human nature, completely unintended.

Truth is Truth no matter who it comes from; race, sex OR 'AGE.'

If you can't recognize Truth when you see/hear it, that is YOUR problem to take up with God.

As a matter of fact, NONE of you can know ANYTHING about any one of these people on here BUT the info they present. You can't be certain of sex, race, age OR what their true intent is in posting here. I absolutely guarantee you there are those here who have the sole intent of misleading, dis-informing and even advertising for certain causes; Osteen ministries being a very good example.

For the record, I am quite 'obviously' not 15 and never 'claimed' to be. That number was put there by the Christian Chat Forum program based on the info I entered, and I was not aware that my age would be posted there under my screen name. There is no way to remove it and I have never been on any other Forum that does that.

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Discernment, seriously? I'd call that common sense.

if you can't be trusted with the small things and whatnot......

 

[PennEd]

Still amazes me that people get so caught up about this. I am reluctant to reply to comments about my age because:

1. It has been covered in detail in other threads.

2. It has absolutely 'NOTHING' to do with the info that I present, here. Zero relevance whatsoever. The info is either biblically accurate or it is not. (And not one single person has taken exception to a single thing I've posted CONCERNING SCRIPTURAL TRUTH.)

3. I was never 'ASKED' for my age when signing up, here. I was only asked for a birth date, to which I felt that info was personal, private and 100% irrelevant and inconsequential to the info I am here to discuss, that being the Word of God. Therefore I entered a random number with zero intent to deceive, period. I certainly wouldn't have chosen to appear as an underage minor. What would that gain me? Yet, I'm still surprised it has caused so many to ignore the info presented.

A very interesting experiment in human nature, completely unintended.

Truth is Truth no matter who it comes from; race, sex OR 'AGE.'

If you can't recognize Truth when you see/hear it, that is YOUR problem to take up with God.

As a matter of fact, NONE of you can know ANYTHING about any one of these people on here BUT the info they present. You can't be certain of sex, race, age OR what their true intent is in posting here. I absolutely guarantee you there are those here who have the sole intent of misleading, dis-informing and even advertising for certain causes; Osteen ministries being a very good example.

For the record, I am quite 'obviously' not 15 and never 'claimed' to be. That number was put there by the Christian Chat Forum program based on the info I entered, and I was not aware that my age would be posted there under my screen name. There is no way to remove it and I have never been on any other Forum that does that.

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Discernment, seriously? I'd call that common sense.

Sorry. Not to rest at all. You chose a random TEEN age to put in your profile? As if putting your actual age is some kind of a threat? And then you verbally destroy another human being posing as a 15 year old boy?

Lord, please help me with Grace with this individual.
I'm pretty weak, so I guess IGNORE is my best option with the likes of you.

 

[AVoiceintheWilderness]

if you can't be trusted with the small things and whatnot......

All you have to do is prove ONE....SINGLE....THING that I've posted 'Wrong' using that book you often hear about, the Bible.

Yeah, the Word of God. Since you are completely and utterly 'INCAPABLE' of doing so, you revert to attacking me personally.

I.E. my stated age.

You have absolutely nothing with which to oppose the information I have presented, here.

Your contributions to this thread, which is about Joel Osteen, let's not forget, are worthless.

 

[AVoiceintheWilderness]

Sorry. Not to rest at all. You chose a random TEEN age to put in your profile? As if putting your actual age is some kind of a threat? And then you verbally destroy another human being posing as a 15 year old boy?

Lord, please help me with Grace with this individual.
I'm pretty weak, so I guess IGNORE is my best option with the likes of you.

Show me EXACTLY where I did anything of the sort, please. I beg you. Post quotes of me doing this.

Absolutely hilarious description of my activity, there.

If I had done anything close to what you 'CLAIM' I'd have been banned already.

I'm not and I've posted exactly the way I always do in multiple threads on topics I feel strongly about.

Guess what, still here.

Please DO ignore me because you have NOTHING to contribute to this thread. Good riddens.

 

[mpaper345]

I detect a pattern, here, among those who continue to support Osteen ministries.

All throughout this thread it is being repeated that the one great thing about Osteen ministries is that they "encourage and lift up the Body of Christ".

I really have to ask those who are saying this, "What, exactly, is it that you consider the 'Body of Christ?'"

Do you believe that every person on the Earth that claims to be a Christian and has attended church at one time or another makes up the 'True' "Body of Christ?"

If so, you need to do some Bible research on that topic and I feel certain you will change your minds about that assessment and discover that the Osteen ministries do absolutely 'NOTHING' for the 'True' Body of Christ.

Only God can build a church.

(Psalm 127:1) Unless the Lord builds the house, They labor in vain who build it;

There are so many 'countless' so-called churches on the Earth, is it even reasonable that they could all be legit 'IN GOD'S EYES?'

Is it even possible, then, that all the people in those 'countless' churches are saved?

Modern churches are money-making institutions run for the sheer purpose of putting butts in the pews and growing in congregation 'AND INCOME.' ANY doctrine that threatens any part of that equation is flat-out not allowed to be preached.
(Ask ANY current preacher/pastor who has experience in a modern church.)

This is true for 98% of the churches in the world. YES, it is. It is also 'TAUGHT' in modern seminaries.

Modern mainstream churches are run like businesses, and fast-food businesses at that.

All that matters, concerning their message as a whole, is how it looks, how it smells and how it tastes. Nutrition is not factored in whatsoever.

So, again, I ask. What, exactly, is this 'Body of Christ' that those, here, feel are being encouraged and uplifted by the Osteen ministries?

It is obvious that not everyone that claims Christ as Lord and Savior is part of the body of Christ,for if that were true then the Bible would not say they are not all part of the Church.
[SUP]
21 [/SUP]Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.[SUP]22 [/SUP]Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
[SUP]23 [/SUP]And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity(Matthew 7:21-23).

[SUP]5 [/SUP]Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.
[SUP]7 [/SUP]Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth(2 Timothy 3:5,7).

[SUP]3 [/SUP]If any man teach otherwise, and consent not to wholesome words, even the words of our Lord Jesus Christ, and to the doctrine which is according to godliness;
[SUP]4 [/SUP]He is proud, knowing nothing, but doting about questions and strifes of words, whereof cometh envy, strife, railings, evil surmisings,
[SUP]5 [/SUP]Perverse disputings of men of corrupt minds, and destitute of the truth, supposing that gain is godliness(monetary and material): from such withdraw thyself.
[SUP]6 [/SUP]But godliness with contentment is great gain.
[SUP]7 [/SUP]For we brought nothing into this world, and it is certain we can carry nothing out.
[SUP]8 [/SUP]And having food and raiment let us be therewith content(1 Timothy 6:3-8,10).
[SUP]10 [/SUP]For the love of money is the root of all evil: which while some coveted after, they have erred from the faith, and pierced themselves through with many sorrows.

[SUP]10 [/SUP]As sorrowful, yet alway rejoicing; as poor, yet making many rich; as having nothing, and yet possessing all things(to be given in due time after the world is put down)(2 Corinthians 6:10).


[SUP]17 [/SUP]But whoso hath this world's good, and seeth his brother have need, and shutteth up his bowels of compassion from him, how dwelleth the love of God in him?
[SUP]18 [/SUP]My little children, let us not love in word, neither in tongue; but in deed and in truth(1 John 3:17-18).


[SUP]14 [/SUP]And unto the angel of the church of the Laodiceans write; These things saith the Amen, the faithful and true witness, the beginning of the creation of God;
[SUP]15 [/SUP]I know thy works, that thou art neither cold nor hot: I would thou wert cold or hot.
[SUP]16 [/SUP]So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth.
[SUP]17 [/SUP]Because thou sayest, I am rich, and increased with goods, and have need of nothing; and knowest not that thou art wretched, and miserable, and poor, and blind, and naked(Revelation 3:14-17).


[SUP]15 [/SUP]Love not the world, neither the things that are in the world. If any man love the world, the love of the Father is not in him.
[SUP]16 [/SUP]For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world.
[SUP]17 [/SUP]And the world passeth away, and the lust thereof: but he that doeth the will of God abideth for ever(1 John 2:15-17).

It is obvious that not all people that claim Christ as Lord and Savior is part of the body of Christ,for they love worldiness,which neglects the poor,for love works no ill towards their neighbor;therefore love is the fulfilling of the law,and the early Church was concerned with helping the poor,and sold all their possessions to accomplish this,not heaped things to themselves as the prosperity Gospel teaches,but helps the poor as much as they can while taking care of their own needs,for God only provides our needs,for as long as people are in need we do not get to heap anything to our self.

The Bible talks against that kind of teaching to where it benefits the saints in that way,but having food and clothing be content,and if you have the needs help the poor,for if you do not then the love of God is not in you,for there is no material or monetary blessing coming from God,but only you needs,and God loves people not blessing the saints according to this fashion that neglects the poor.

 

[kaylagrl]

how did we get to prosperity doctrine and why do folks label everything?

prosperity is badly misundestood

I might have to bang my head on a wall here shortly...good thing it's a hard head LOL!

Kayla.....travelling around and singing in every church on God's green earth does not actually give you the perspective to doctrinize them (I think I just invented another word)

we are all safe and sound in our beds at night, but God sees it all, eh?

You may have to use a different word there. Im too dull to understand what you are saying. Doctrinze meaning change their doctrine? Never did that. Whatever church we went to we stuck with their doctrine. Like if we were in a church that didn't believe in tongues we would not bring it up in any way. If you mean something else let me know.

I know prosperity doctrine,I have a pastor friend who preaches it. I disagree with that teaching and feel its against Bible teaching. I dont know how not to label it since it is a doctrine.

 

[Sirk]

All you have to do is prove ONE....SINGLE....THING that I've posted 'Wrong' using that book you often hear about, the Bible.

Yeah, the Word of God. Since you are completely and utterly 'INCAPABLE' of doing so, you revert to attacking me personally.

I.E. my stated age.

You have absolutely nothing with which to oppose the information I have presented, here.

Your contributions to this thread, which is about Joel Osteen, let's not forget, are worthless.

Awe thanks. And you're a peacemaker to boot.

 

[kaylagrl]

I would encourage you to stop getting your information from 'Pretty sure someone told me that."

Go to his church's website to read their actual statement of faith. Watch some of the many available videos where he's actually preaching. Understand that Osteen's gifting is not as an evangelist or prophet, but as an encourager to the Body. So many condemn the man, accusing him of being a false prophet or evangelist when he's not a prophet nor is he an evangelist!
Nope, his gifting is to build up and to encourage the Body. His ministry does reach out to the lost with the Gospel, primarily in works of service and love. Sorry, but I won't fault him for walking in the giftings God has given and called him to.

Is he my 'go to' guy for meaty, in-depth preaching? Nope. But he's a great encourager, one who reminds us of the goodness and faithfulness of God. God knows the Body needs that, too.

-JGIG

Quote "I would encourage you to stop getting your information from 'Pretty sure someone told me that."

That was simply that his father was Pentecostal, which makes no difference either way to the OP or the subject. That was what I was talking about. What he said about one way to God I had heard myself before.

 

[kaylagrl]

really?

I think you need to try harder

I dont see the difference with what he is saying. One way to get to God,more than one way to get to Jesus. Since Jesus is God how can both be true?

 

[AVoiceintheWilderness]

Is Joel Osteen a False Prophet?


Joel Osteen who never attended a Bible college or seminary, made his imprint as a media producer creating the John Osteen TV program and making KTBU channel 55 a premier independent TV station in Houston. The TV outreach soon reached a global market. After his dad's death, his mother appointed Joel as the Senior Pastor of Lakewood Church. His syrupy smile and written messages (he never uses a Bible in the pulpit except to make the beginning proclamation at each service that the Bible is the Word of God) of positive prosperity caught on quickly and Lakewood has grown to be one of the largest churches in America. His style of preaching has helped him sell millions of books as well as make him a millionaire.

The first thing that is wrong with his pastoral status is that there is no teaching in the New Testament that a woman or mother can appoint a minister or pastor over the people of God. The apostle Paul, personally chosen by Jesus to plant churches all over Asia minor is the pattern and norm for how true Churches are begun. In many cases, when Paul reached an area to preach the gospel, a church had already formed, that is, Christians were coming together for worship. Paul would then appoint Elders to lead the Churches. One such elder was young Timothy whom Paul referred to as his spiritual son. When people are led by the Holy Spirit to form a Church, they usually seek a man of God via much prayer to lead them and depend on the Holy Spirit to send them His leader. At least this is the way things used to be done. In today's modern world, churches rely on resumes and recruiters to staff leadership positions.

What should have transpired at Lakewood is that the people should have come together in prayer and sought the Holy Spirit's direction in choosing a successor to John Osteen. What if God had wanted to place someone other than Joel Osteen as pastor of Lakewood? Well, He never was given the opportunity for Dodie Osteen moved quickly to make her son the senior pastor that way the Osteen family is in control of the Church which makes you ask the question - Is Lakewood God's Church or the Osteen's?

Did Dodie Osteen appoint her son as senior pastor of Lakewood according to her own desires or was he chosen to lead the Church as the Holy Spirit led the body in prayer to seek the man of God for the Church? I cannot find in my research where a search committee was ever formed to find a pastor for Lakewood. As one critic of Joel Osteen says, "He was unwillingly thrust into the headship of the church." I remember watching him preach or try to when he first took over the leadership of the Church under his mother's watchful eye, he was extremely nervous and admitted he was not comfortable with his new role. However, once he decided what kind of pastor he would be, he found his niche in being a motivational speaker and not really an expositor of Holy Writ. The apostle Peter told the under-shepherds to feed the flock of God with the Word of God not give motivational speeches.

The problem with Joel Osteen's style of preaching is that it is one dimensional and leaves aside a great volume of Scripture his flock never hears. This is the problem with topical preachers. Instead of preaching books of the Bible verse by verse, they choose a new topic every week and usually something they prefer of what the audience likes to hear. This way they avoid the difficult passages that address sin, judgment and eternal torment. Read all of the New Testament apostles letters and notice how many times they mention sin and judgment. In addition, they were not remiss to address the sins of homosexuality and adultery. There are many passages in the Bible that don't make me feel especially good but are convicting and even disturbing like this one:

21 Not everyone who says to me, Lord, Lord, shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he that does the will of my Father in heaven. 22 Many will say to me, Lord, Lord, have we not preached in your name, cast out demons in your name and done many wonders in your name? 23 And then I (Jesus) will declare unto them, depart from me you workers of iniquity, I never knew you. Matthew 7:21-23

I doubt Joel Osteen will preach this text as it is too negative to his chosen style of preaching. No man truly called of God decides that he is going to choose his own style of preaching rather He preaches out of his spirit what the Holy Spirit is revealing to him of God's Word and that means the sum total of Sola Scriptura not a narrow focus as the positive prosperity preachers are doing. I have not watched Kenneth or Gloria Copeland on TV in many years but one day I was searching for something to watch and came across the Copeland's program. It was identical to what I had heard some 15 years ago - the same old prosperity message and using the same words. Looks like the people would grow tired of the same old broken record. At the end like always they asked the audience for "seed money" not to bless the givers but to make the Copeland's wealthy which they are.

Try to attend one of his national tour meetings without purchasing a ticket. None of his meetings are free. You must pay to hear him or you cannot get in the door. One critic wrote speaking of Osteen's wealth:

This should be outrageous to anyone who desires to follow in the footsteps of Jesus and recognizes that all things come from God. Could not this money be used to further the preaching of the gospel in other countries? If his book is so important, could this money not be used to give his book for free to anyone who asked him for it? Could this money not be used in a variety of good and righteous ways, rather than on himself? I am not suggesting that Joel Osteen ought to live like a poor person. But I am saying that he ought to live equally with the world he is trying to teach. I am saying that he ought to live equally with the majority of his congregation. Who can imagine Jesus to live in such extravagance and then preach, “Blessed are you who are poor, for yours is the kingdom of God” (Luke 6:20)? How could Jesus ever say, “But woe to you who are rich, for you have already received your comfort” (Luke 6:24)? Joel Osteen has most certainly already received his reward.

Can anyone see Paul going through the major metropolises of the Roman Empire like Ephesus and Corinth and charging admission to hear his speak? Can you imagine Paul charging an entry fee into the school of Tyrannus where he lectured (Acts 19:9)? Perhaps Paul could have charged the people who came to hear him speak while imprisoned in Rome!

Perhaps Joel Osteen has not read this part of the Bible: “If anyone teaches false doctrines and does not agree to the sound instruction of our Lord Jesus Christ and to godly teaching, he is conceited and understands nothing. He has an unhealthy interest in controversies and quarrels about words that result in envy, strife, malicious talk, evil suspicions and constant friction between men of corrupt mind, who have been robbed of the truth and who think that godliness is a means to financial gain” (1 Timothy 6:3-5; NIV). One of Pauls definitions for a false teacher is someone who sees godliness as a moneymaking operation.
This should draw outrage from everyone and cause all of his followers to leave him. This is the clearest evidence of all that this man is truly not preaching because he is compelled to save souls. Rather, he is compelled to make money and lots of it. Let us turn our eyes to the scriptures and not follow those who see the gospel as a way to make money.


So how do we appraise Joel Osteen by all of the above. Is he a false prophet and is he guilty of preaching "another" gospel. Yes, he is on both counts. If anything less, he is guilty of spreading heresy and Paul warns not to associate with a heretic - Titus 3:10.

A deacon once told me in a Church I pastored that no matter what I preached or taught, I always made the gospel so clear a child could understand it. That is perhaps the greatest compliment I have received in my 40 years of Christian ministry.

Dr. Allen Barber

Is Joel Osteen A False Prophet - thebiblicalworldview.org

 

[kaylagrl]

I'm practically a pagan myself

I don't believe in a young earth

according to some folks here, that makes me a blasphemer

however, God has never taken me aside and said, listen here blondie, if you want to get to heaven, you better have blind faith

and then folks go and sing 'open my eyes that I might see'

if I don't get it with my brain, it's not going to happen...for some people it's all about the emotions...sorry, can't turn off the brain

as Judge Judy would say, you can't say what Osteen knows...that's hearsay

basically, and sorry Kayla, but that is what you have

hearsay

No, I dont have hearsay at all. I posted what he said,and there was a video shared of what he said on another occasion. Thats not hearsay.

 

[kaylagrl]

I would encourage you to stop getting your information from 'Pretty sure someone told me that."

Go to his church's website to read their actual statement of faith. Watch some of the many available videos where he's actually preaching. Understand that Osteen's gifting is not as an evangelist or prophet, but as an encourager to the Body. So many condemn the man, accusing him of being a false prophet or evangelist when he's not a prophet nor is he an evangelist!
Nope, his gifting is to build up and to encourage the Body. His ministry does reach out to the lost with the Gospel, primarily in works of service and love. Sorry, but I won't fault him for walking in the giftings God has given and called him to.

Is he my 'go to' guy for meaty, in-depth preaching? Nope. But he's a great encourager, one who reminds us of the goodness and faithfulness of God. God knows the Body needs that, too.

-JGIG

Found what I was looking for in an interview with Osteen....

You grew up with Pentecostal roots, how would you say church has changed for you as the senior pastor of Lakewood Church?

Osteen: I grew up with my dad being Pentecostal and I felt like it was charismatic.


Interview: Joel Osteen on Life, Tragedy and Why He Shuns 'Prosperity Gospel' Label

 

[Sirk]

It's too bad that people haven't figured out that they have the ability to glean truth from other sources than just some supposed preacher who gets it all right in their eyes. I believe that people who rail against something all the time miss out on the beauty that is life.

 

[kaylagrl]

All you have to do is prove ONE....SINGLE....THING that I've posted 'Wrong' using that book you often hear about, the Bible.

Yeah, the Word of God. Since you are completely and utterly 'INCAPABLE' of doing so, you revert to attacking me personally.

I.E. my stated age.

You have absolutely nothing with which to oppose the information I have presented, here.

Your contributions to this thread, which is about Joel Osteen, let's not forget, are worthless.

You could of put an age that was five years difference. 15 gives you the right to hang around the teens forum and they are expecting you are their age. I dont know why you haven't been banned for it but I think you should be asked to change your age to a more realistic age. Others here have been told to change their age. Someone last week I believe said they had mistakenly put the wrong age and they were called on it and changed it. What goes for one goes for all.

 

[Sirk]

You could of put an age that was five years difference. 15 gives you the right to hang around the teens forum and they are expecting you are their age. I dont know why you haven't been banned for it but I think you should be asked to change your age to a more realistic age. Others here have been told to change their age. Someone last week I believe said they had mistakenly put the wrong age and they were called on it and changed it. What goes for one goes for all.

Seems predatory. Heretic hunter starts with a lie. Wonder what the link is?

 

[kaylagrl]

Seems predatory. Heretic hunter starts with a lie. Wonder what the link is?

Theres no reason for it. Put an age a year or two older or younger. I hope to see his age has changed to a more truthful number. And soon.

 

[AVoiceintheWilderness]

Originally Posted by Sirk

Seems predatory. Heretic hunter starts with a lie. Wonder what the link is?

Oh, clearly, I'm a predator. CLEARLY.

There's that gift of discernment, Sirk.

You champion, you!

Ha. All these vicious claims and not a single quote 'FROM ME' to back them up. Typical.

Theres no reason for it. Put an age a year or two older or younger. I hope to see his age has changed to a more truthful number. And soon.

This is absolutely hilarious. HILARIOUS. In a very demeaning way to YOU, Kayla.

What would YOU like my age to be, Kayla? 17 or 13?

You tell me, I'm here to please YOU, Kayla.

Go make a fuss to any and all moderators here about my Horrible, Awful, EVIL mistaken birth date info and see if ANY of them will assist me in changing it.

I tried to change it well over a year ago when I very first noticed it was posted on screen and there is no way to change it, to my knowledge.

It has been discussed thoroughly and if it were a problem for ANY of the mods, I feel certain it would have been addressed by now.

If I'm 13, does that make it easier to believe the information that I'm presenting straight from the Word of God, Kayla?

How bout 17? 17, Kayla? Will that work for you?

I only want you to be "COMFORTABLE" with all the information that you see about me.

How bout my screen name? That ok with you, Kayla and Sirk? Might could change that, too, if you guys insist.

Heaven Forbid you're unhappy with anything about me that is COMPLETELY IRRELEVANT to the information I am presenting.

Go 'head now. Run along. Run tell the mods that my age is incorrect and see what you can accomplish.

Lord have mercy!

 

[AVoiceintheWilderness]

Moderators:

This is my second request to you to remove my age from under my screen name.

I made the same request well over a year ago and see plenty of people on here without an age under their name.

Please adjust my information accordingly. Thanks and God bless.