again, for the 150th time (at least)
The story of Cornelius' family is NOT the norm. It was a one-time happening, for a SPECIFIC purpose. It happened so that the Jewish Christians would see for themselves that Gentiles were accepted by God, and that they (Jewish Christians) should NOT prevent them from being baptized, which apparently they were doing.
I mean, read the whole story of Peter and his vision on the rooftop.... the WHOLE story is about the revelation to the Jews that Gentiles are also acceptable to God...
God let his Spirit enter Cornelius' family to PROVE this point. Then what happened? They were immediately baptized. This is NOT the normal sequence of events... it was SPECIAL.
“The story of Cornelius' family is NOT the norm. It was a one-time happening, for a SPECIFIC purpose. It happened so that the Jewish Christians would see for themselves that Gentiles were accepted by God, and that they (Jewish Christians) should NOT prevent them from being baptized, which apparently they were doing. “
And what proof in scripture do you have that this is the “ norm “
How many times is this order shown ?
“Then Peter said unto them,
Repent, and
be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins,
and
ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.”
Acts 2:38 KJV
and this is not the norm ?
“To him give all the prophets witness, that through his name whosoever believeth in him shall receive remission of sins. While Peter yet spake these words, the Holy Ghost fell on all them which heard the word. And they of the circumcision which believed were astonished, as many as came with Peter, because that on the Gentiles also was poured out the gift of the Holy Ghost. For they heard them speak with tongues, and magnify God. Then answered Peter, Can any man forbid water, that these should not be baptized, which have received the Holy Ghost as well as we? And he commanded them to be baptized in the name of the Lord. Then prayed they him to tarry certain days.”
Acts 10:43-48 KJV
if you have some biblical reasoning I’d like to hear it also . It doesn’t say they were forbidding baptism for gentiles there Peter asked them “ can anyone forbid baptism because they have received the holt ghost like we have ?”
then he commands then to be baptized in Jesus name afterwards . Baptism isn’t a proscription it’s an act of faith . The promise of the holy ghost is solely based on who believes the gospel like those men who hears and believes and received the spirit
a you have the same right as everyone to your opinion though I’m just wondering if you have any biblical reason to come to your conclusion there it doesn’t seem like there’s one particular order that it needs to happen in , but like you have your opinion , that’s only my opinion because it clearly happens both ways in scripture
I don’t see any reason to say which would be the “ norm “ or if there is even a singular “ norm “
baptism has its place and function receiving the Holy Ghost
isn’t why we get baptized belief brings the spirit