Yesterday at 7:52 AM
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homwardbound said:
then why did Peter say water Baptism is a good conscience towards God?
because that's what it is. We are baptized for forgiveness for our sins, which gives us a clear conscience... he compared it to how Noah's family was "cleansed" from sinful mankind by the washing away of sin (sinners) in the waters of the flood. "baptism, which corresponds to this, (the flood) now saves
us...." not because it's a ceremonial washing of dirt off our bodies.... it's an act of obedience to God, and an appeal for a clear conscience.
homwardbound said:
Then water Baptism came after the fact off being saved, willingly they did it
This, as has been discussed and explained MANY times, was a one-time event to show the Jewish Christians, who did not want to baptize the Gentiles (Cornelius family) because they thought it was only for Jews. God, through Peter showed the Jews that the Gentiles were, in fact, approved... by allowing the Spirit to manifest in them by speaking in tongues. Then the Jews relented, and allowed them to be baptized. It was NOT a decision by Cornelius after the fact. This was a watershed moment for the Jewish Christians, and Cornelius' Gentile family was the teaching mechanism.
homwardbound said:
I see God took away all sin on the cross he went to willing in his shed blood as done once for us all.
You quoted below!
All sin IS forgiven, for those that choose to follow Jesus, and obey God. it's not an automatic forgiveness for everyone, otherwise, God should just end the world now, since there is nothing left to accomplish. Silly...
Okay, you know more than I do, thank you above God who said it was finished for us to beleive God in Son's done work for us all. Okay you add water Baptism or you not in, how many other laws you put in the law of Love to all?
A good conscience, is seeing the deck cleared by God in bed g reconciled to God through Son's done w work for them.
In appreciation one does do things led new to do, and water Baptism is out the door
presently
Acts 1:5
For John truly baptized with water; but ye shall be baptized with the Holy Ghost not many days hence.
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So Spirit Baptism happened and so then is water Baptism ritual over or not
Whoever decides to be water Baptized, please do it in a good conscience between God and you too, thank you not forced, chose willingly. If you get any ritual going, if it is not a good conscience between God and you then it is baloney and under Law to get stuff
Thanks as you do already know this truth too, thank you
Oh and Noah and the others, wife kids and their wives were not saved by being put under water
They did not drown, God saved them from being drowned and you want to drown orthers, why?