Jonah Died and went to Hell

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YES.

1 Peter 3
18 For Christ also suffered once for sins, the just for the unjust, that He might bring [f]us to God, being put to death in the flesh but made alive by the Spirit, 19 by whom also He went and preached to the spirits in prison, 20 who formerly were disobedient, [g]when once the Divine longsuffering waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was being prepared, in which a few, that is, eight souls, were saved through water.
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Not only is your view is not scriptural, you acknowledgement that Yeshua went to actual the place of torment is a diabolical teaching.
 

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Absolutely! The place is called the belly of hell. Jonah was in great affliction and suffered corruption, and was brought up from this place. The place Jonah went was at the bottoms of the mountains. This place had bars. That's hell.
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Acts 2
31 He seeing this before spake of the resurrection of Christ, that his soul was not left in hell, neither his flesh did see corruption.
32 This Jesus hath God raised up, whereof we all are witnesses.

Where else did Christ spend those three days and three nights?
Acts 2
31 He seeing this before spake of the resurrection of Christ, that his soul was not left in hell, neither his flesh did see corruption.
32 This Jesus hath God raised up, whereof we all are witnesses.

Where else did Christ spend those three days and three nights?
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As I told chris1975, your view is not scriptural and it is a diabolical teaching.
 

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Not only is your view is not scriptural, you acknowledgement that Yeshua went to actual the place of torment is a diabolical teaching.
Not so. Our Lord did not go to hell to suffer, but to preach victory! I believe also that the Lord deposited our sins into hell. After preaching in hell, He went to Abraham's bosom to preach the gospel and lead those in captivity free.

Question for you: Where was the Lord those three days and three nights?
 

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Not only is your view is not scriptural, you acknowledgement that Yeshua went to actual the place of torment is a diabolical teaching.
OK. you asked for scriptures. I (and John146) supplied these. Then YOU DENY THE SCRIPTURES. That's upon your own head. We were being nice. I can fully understand your comment if we did not provide proof. But now you are without excuse.
 
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My question to you... Do you believe Yeshua actually went to that place of torment where the rich man went? This is a yes or no question and if you say yes then substantiate your view with the Scriptures.
Sorry.Yes. . In that parable He went to a place of suffering a living death or unto death as a living sacrifice. .Just as did Jesus in the garden as he suffer and was strengthened by the Father three times the pangs of hell taking our burden and in rest giving us a new born again spirit from the Father of spirits. Christ cannot die he is the power or spirit of ressurection ..It worked in both Jonas the rebel, and Jesus the righteous one.

Being confident of this very thing, that he which hath begun a good work in you will perform it until the day of Jesus Christ:Philipians1:6

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OK. you asked for scriptures. I (and John146) supplied these. Then YOU DENY THE SCRIPTURES. That's upon your own head. We were being nice. I can fully understand your comment if we did not provide proof. But now you are without excuse.
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You have been impressed with a false and a diabolical teaching! Why would Yeshua go to hell to preach, they are already lost and in your view he went to hell stopped the fire then preached then started the fire, but according to the Scriptures the fire is everlasting. Your view is distorted.
 

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You have been impressed with a false and a diabolical teaching! Why would Yeshua go to hell to preach, they are already lost and in your view he went to hell stopped the fire then preached then started the fire, but according to the Scriptures the fire is everlasting. Your view is distorted.
You don't even know what "hell" you are talking about. You seem to be referring to the Lake of Fire (hint: nobody is yet there). Jesus went to Hades (Greek) or Sheol (Hebrew) one and the same place. Get your location right. You are not arguing from a position of knowledge, that is clear.
 

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You have been impressed with a false and a diabolical teaching! Why would Yeshua go to hell to preach, they are already lost and in your view he went to hell stopped the fire then preached then started the fire, but according to the Scriptures the fire is everlasting. Your view is distorted.
Please answer the question: Where was Jesus for those three days and three nights?
 
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Absolutely! The place is called the belly of hell. Jonah was in great affliction and suffered corruption, and was brought up from this place. The place Jonah went was at the bottoms of the mountains. This place had bars. That's hell.

Yes, the place that first tasted of the corrupted blood of mankind. Called the heart of the earth or belly of the whale. Same principle in respect to it, corruption, it having no spirit life cries out to be clothed with the incorruptible body . Abel is used to represent blood crying out. We no literal blood without the spirit can do nothing .It returns to the field of clay from which the beats of field like mankind or other kinds. His number is 6. Using three which is used to denote a end to the matter in many places. We are shown the number of natural unconverted man as 666.

Genesis develops many doctrines as a foundations. Cursing the heart of the earth, as a living hell a punishment no man can bear without rest( sabbath) is one. Another the mystery in Revelation with those who sell the gospel truth and do not buy the things not seen (faith) . 666 has it foundation in the same chapter 4 of Genesis . As well as the first Martyr, Abel whose new spirit cried out from the heart of the earth in a hope to lifted up as the promise of them rising from their graves, signaled by a earth quake. . opening the heart of the earth, then entered into the new the mansion of many rooms and are resting dead asleep, waiting for the wake up call. Arise
 
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Please answer the question: Where was Jesus for those three days and three nights?
He went suffering for the wage of sin death the pangs of hell . A punishment greater that we could bear .Emanuel yoked with us gives us rest so that we can finish to do His will. Which Jonas did reluctantly to show God is not served by corrupted human flesh and blood.

Three times the Son of man Jesus called out for strength and encouragement. . three times in mutual agreement the father strengthened the Son of man, Jesus. The Holy Spirit giving his Spirt life in jeopardy of his own, applied it to flesh of Jesus . . .the demonstration.
 

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He went suffering for the wage of sin death the pangs of hell . A punishment greater that we could bear .Emanuel yoked with us gives us rest so that we can finish to do His will. Which Jonas did reluctantly to show God is not served by corrupted human flesh and blood.

Three times the Son of man Jesus called out for strength and encouragement. . three times in mutual agreement the father strengthened the Son of man, Jesus. The Holy Spirit giving his Spirt life in jeopardy of his own, applied it to flesh of Jesus . . .the demonstration.
If you took a class in basic English, you would learn how to construct coherent and meaningful sentences. Your word groups often don't qualify as such.

Please take a class.
 

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You have been impressed with a false and a diabolical teaching! Why would Yeshua go to hell to preach, they are already lost and in your view he went to hell stopped the fire then preached then started the fire, but according to the Scriptures the fire is everlasting. Your view is distorted.
Is it such a difficult question? You should be able to give a basic answer from Scripture since you condemn the answer I and Chris1975 have provided.

Where was Christ those three days and three nights?
 

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You don't even know what "hell" you are talking about. You seem to be referring to the Lake of Fire (hint: nobody is yet there). Jesus went to Hades (Greek) or Sheol (Hebrew) one and the same place. Get your location right. You are not arguing from a position of knowledge, that is clear.
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We are talking about the place of torment where the rich man went, they are condemn already so Yeshua did not have to go there. Read my previous post, I was referring to hades, but I will be clear so you can understand what I am talking about. Yeshua did not go to hades, if you think he did it is not scriptural.
 

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Is it such a difficult question? You should be able to give a basic answer from Scripture since you condemn the answer I and Chris1975 have provided.

Where was Christ those three days and three nights?
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You do not need to ask twice, I read all and respond accordingly.
 

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He committed his Spirit to God and there he when and led captivity captive.
What do you make of the Acts 2 passage?

31 He seeing this before spake of the resurrection of Christ, that his soul was not left in hell, neither his flesh did see corruption.
32 This Jesus hath God raised up, whereof we all are witnesses.

And this:

1 Peter 3
18 For Christ also hath once suffered for sins, the just for the unjust, that he might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh, but quickened by the Spirit:
19 By which also he went and preached unto the spirits in prison;
20 Which sometime were disobedient, when once the longsuffering of God waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was a preparing, wherein few, that is, eight souls were saved by water.
 

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What do you make of the Acts 2 passage?

31 He seeing this before spake of the resurrection of Christ, that his soul was not left in hell, neither his flesh did see corruption.
32 This Jesus hath God raised up, whereof we all are witnesses.

And this:

1 Peter 3
18 For Christ also hath once suffered for sins, the just for the unjust, that he might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh, but quickened by the Spirit:
19 By which also he went and preached unto the spirits in prison;
20 Which sometime were disobedient, when once the longsuffering of God waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was a preparing, wherein few, that is, eight souls were saved by water.
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You need to read the entire passage starting on verse 25. This passage is talking about the resurrection of Yeshua. Everyone that died when to sheol (the place of one sepulchre, the place where one is buried), no one resurrection, by Yeshua resurrecting it confirms the prophecy, thou not suffer thing Holy One (Yeshua) to see corruption, his flesh did not pulverized.

As for 1st Peter 3:19, first I want you to think about and keep in mind the following...

1) It is appointed unto men once to die afterward judgment
2) 1st Peter 2:19 is the verse that the catholic church uses to support purgatory

So, does the Ist Peter 3:19 tells us that Yeshua enter a place of torment, if so, where does it say it? Preach unto does not insinuate, neither does it concludes that he entered. You know on a door and witnessed, does that mean that you enter the person's house? No! With this being said, if you are concluding that 1st Peter 3:19 is stating that he enter this place of torment then you are giving this verse a another meaning to fit your view.

In conclusion, 1st Peter 2:19 has nothing to do with Yeshua entering the place of torment.
 

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You need to read the entire passage starting on verse 25. This passage is talking about the resurrection of Yeshua. Everyone that died when to sheol (the place of one sepulchre, the place where one is buried), no one resurrection, by Yeshua resurrecting it confirms the prophecy, thou not suffer thing Holy One (Yeshua) to see corruption, his flesh did not pulverized.

As for 1st Peter 3:19, first I want you to think about and keep in mind the following...

1) It is appointed unto men once to die afterward judgment
2) 1st Peter 2:19 is the verse that the catholic church uses to support purgatory

So, does the Ist Peter 3:19 tells us that Yeshua enter a place of torment, if so, where does it say it? Preach unto does not insinuate, neither does it concludes that he entered. You know on a door and witnessed, does that mean that you enter the person's house? No! With this being said, if you are concluding that 1st Peter 3:19 is stating that he enter this place of torment then you are giving this verse a another meaning to fit your view.

In conclusion, 1st Peter 2:19 has nothing to do with Yeshua entering the place of torment.
I'll post it.

Acts 2
25 For David speaketh concerning him, I foresaw the Lord always before my face, for he is on my right hand, that I should not be moved:
26 Therefore did my heart rejoice, and my tongue was glad; moreover also my flesh shall rest in hope:
27 Because thou wilt not leave my soul in hell, neither wilt thou suffer thine Holy One to see corruption.
28 Thou hast made known to me the ways of life; thou shalt make me full of joy with thy countenance.
29 Men and brethren, let me freely speak unto you of the patriarch David, that he is both dead and buried, and his sepulchre is with us unto this day.
30 Therefore being a prophet, and knowing that God had sworn with an oath to him, that of the fruit of his loins, according to the flesh, he would raise up Christ to sit on his throne;
31 He seeing this before spake of the resurrection of Christ, that his soul was not left in hell, neither his flesh did see corruption.
32 This Jesus hath God raised up, whereof we all are witnesses.


His soul was not left where? In hell. The Lord's soul went to hell, not to suffer but to preach victory and empty our sins in hell. Do you think He went to the Father with the sins of the world still upon Him? I'm going with what the Bible says.
 

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You have a diabolic teaching because no where does it say he enter a place of torment. As for hell, this is talk about Sheol, like when David said, if I make my bed in sheol he will be their. Was David in a place of torment?

You are pulling verses our of context to fit your distorted view, give me a passage of the Scriptures that says he entered the place of torment. If you cannot, do not bother responding. We are talking about the resurrection, we are talking about did he enter the place of torment and the answer to that is NO.