Judging What?
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I see your point, but you didn't create anyone. How tolerant would you be if you created billions of people who rejected you? God is not intolerant of people. He is intolerant of sin, and despite that, still loves us when we sin. All He wants us to do is love Him, and if we do that, He'll do alot more than just tolerate us.
Yes God is full of love, which is why He hates sin. He is good so He hates evil. He is righteous so He condemns the unrighteous.
Grim, I know you're either an atheist or someone who doesn't believe in God (yet). There's nothing I can say or do that will convince you that God exists or that His judgement is fair. But, I dare you (yes, I dare you) to pray to God. I dare you to ask God to show Himself to you and to give you understanding about judgement. God answers prayers. Try it, I dare you...
Grim, I know you're either an atheist or someone who doesn't believe in God (yet). There's nothing I can say or do that will convince you that God exists or that His judgement is fair. But, I dare you (yes, I dare you) to pray to God. I dare you to ask God to show Himself to you and to give you understanding about judgement. God answers prayers. Try it, I dare you...
Hi Grim,
I hope I got you right in what you are saying. You say, you were praying for 8 yrs and you were a christian all that time?
If that is the case I would very much doubt that you were truly saved. However, I am no judge. Its bit of a contradiction in terms, you were a chrstian yet, you wanted God to prove Himself, If you are a christian you are born of God (born again) by the power of the Holy Spirit, the Spirit dwells in you (God).
Paul says no man is without excuse, for creation is proof of God (creator), I think i covered this in an early post.
Of course if God is the Soveiegn creator who do we think we are to question Him about his mercy and justice??
God is Love, and unfortunately modern evangelists tend to just preach on that, but, God's wrath against sin has to be dealt with, wether we like it or not.
Ive covered most of this earlier.
Its sad that you proclaim to bean athiest! at te end of the day God does not believe in athiests either, just as athiest proclaim not to belive in God. You will have to answer why.
God does not need to prove He exists, but He does seek his children.
ind regar
Phil
I hope I got you right in what you are saying. You say, you were praying for 8 yrs and you were a christian all that time?
If that is the case I would very much doubt that you were truly saved. However, I am no judge. Its bit of a contradiction in terms, you were a chrstian yet, you wanted God to prove Himself, If you are a christian you are born of God (born again) by the power of the Holy Spirit, the Spirit dwells in you (God).
Paul says no man is without excuse, for creation is proof of God (creator), I think i covered this in an early post.
Of course if God is the Soveiegn creator who do we think we are to question Him about his mercy and justice??
God is Love, and unfortunately modern evangelists tend to just preach on that, but, God's wrath against sin has to be dealt with, wether we like it or not.
Ive covered most of this earlier.
Its sad that you proclaim to bean athiest! at te end of the day God does not believe in athiests either, just as athiest proclaim not to belive in God. You will have to answer why.
God does not need to prove He exists, but He does seek his children.
ind regar
Phil
But that doesn't really explain why he never showed himself to me. on another note, blind faith will never lead anywhere good. You'll get taken advantage of by humans. If something exists, it should be able to be proved, if not, why believe in him in the first place? If god asks me in the end why I'll simply tell him, and when I see him I would instantly convert.
Lol I know what you are saying. Well, why should God bow down to your command? I doubt you were truly saved or else you would not have had the disposition of unbelief?
Who says that a faith which God puts in your heart is blind faith?
Moses could not even see God wre God had been, sinful man cannot stand befre a Holy God. Instead of asking God toprove Himself to you, especially of a futile 8 yrs, ask Him to change your heart so that you can have faith in Him.
As Paul says is the one who creates have to bow down to the created?? (Pauls talking about a potter and his creation a pot or vessel)
you sa if God asks you, be assured He will. it will be too late to convert then. I pray you see it now.
anyhow we could go on about this all week, so your in my prayers Grim.
kind regards
Phil
Who says that a faith which God puts in your heart is blind faith?
Moses could not even see God wre God had been, sinful man cannot stand befre a Holy God. Instead of asking God toprove Himself to you, especially of a futile 8 yrs, ask Him to change your heart so that you can have faith in Him.
As Paul says is the one who creates have to bow down to the created?? (Pauls talking about a potter and his creation a pot or vessel)
you sa if God asks you, be assured He will. it will be too late to convert then. I pray you see it now.
anyhow we could go on about this all week, so your in my prayers Grim.
kind regards
Phil
Thanks for that prayer, but if god shows himself to me, I'll love him forever, doubtlessly, without any compromise, and utterly capitulate to his words. If he loves me, that's exactly what he will do. Any other way I'm ****ed. Utterly ****ed. Because I consider myself a rational person, and don't think "faith", of any kind, is sufficient reason for me to believe something that (and I don't think it's possible to say this doesn't sound ridiculous when you hear someone say this) is invisible and is otherwise undetectable to anyone who doesn't already believe.
Well, Grim, I hope God opens your heart to Him, Don't forget the truth is vieled to those who harden their hearts. ask God that you may see in Faith, and believe me you will know. either way we will all see God one day, some to face His wrath and His children to spend eternity with Him.
My prayers are with.
kind regards
Phil
My prayers are with.
kind regards
Phil
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Ya know Grim a disciple of Jesus called Thomas felt the way you do....wanting proof first before he would believe......when Jesus appeared to His disciples after His death, Thomas wasn't there at first and only heard it about from those that were there.....so he says.....'Unless I see his nail scars and put my hand into his side....I will not believe.'....Jesus appeared to him then and there......Thomas then says....'My Lord and my God!!'
Jesus answered, ' Thomas, because you have seen Me, you have believed.BLESSED are those who have not seen and YET believe.' John 20 v 24 - 29
Bless ya mate
Jesus answered, ' Thomas, because you have seen Me, you have believed.BLESSED are those who have not seen and YET believe.' John 20 v 24 - 29
Bless ya mate
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