Justified by work vs faith

[Blik]

You say
Christian can sin

But Christian must stop sin

So you agree every time Christian sin, must repent?

You say No genuine Christian believe this nonsense teaching

In my church people believe when you are christians, murder or what ever sin oN the list of Galatians 5 Will not make you lose your salvation , only lose your reward

If you do not loose your salvation even if you do not take your sin to Jesus to be forgiven, then you do not believe what scripture tells you. I think that believe is adding to what scripture tells us. It is like demon advise, for demons say if Christ tells us something is abiding then, the demons add, you are still saved even without forgiveness.

Demons used the same trick with Jesus when they tempted Him in the wilderness.

 

[Blue_Of_Lake]

From hell

I doesn't mean I agree murder etc save from hell

Becouse I believe the Same verse

21 Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.

the Devil is/was a m word from the beginning. so if anyone m words, then he is of the Devil. the Devil is as far from saved as you can get.

in as much as they are of the Devil.

so i think we can say likewise that in as much as one is OF Christ -- that one is Saved. however much he is OF Christ -- He is saved -- that much.

how much do we want to Saved? a little, some, more, or All. ".. press on .. ". Philippians 3:14.

 

[throughfaith]

If you do not loose your salvation even if you do not take your sin to Jesus to be forgiven, then you do not believe what scripture tells you. I think that believe is adding to what scripture tells us. It is like demon advise, for demons say if Christ tells us something is abiding then, the demons add, you are still saved even without forgiveness.

Demons used the same trick with Jesus when they tempted Him in the wilderness.

If all we had to do is ask for forgiveness, why did Jesus have to die?. Islam teaches that you just ask God forgiveness and thats it . No sacrifice for sins and no saviour.

 

[Jackson123]

If you do not loose your salvation even if you do not take your sin to Jesus to be forgiven, then you do not believe what scripture tells you. I think that believe is adding to what scripture tells us. It is like demon advise, for demons say if Christ tells us something is abiding then, the demons add, you are still saved even without forgiveness.

Demons used the same trick with Jesus when they tempted Him in the wilderness.

I agree

 

[Jackson123]

the Devil is/was a m word from the beginning. so if anyone m words, then he is of the Devil. the Devil is as far from saved as you can get.

in as much as they are of the Devil.

so i think we can say likewise that in as much as one is OF Christ -- that one is Saved. however much he is OF Christ -- He is saved -- that much.

how much do we want to Saved? a little, some, more, or All. ".. press on .. ". Philippians 3:14.

Yep I believe we have to stop murder and repent to be save

Murder not only make you lose your reward, but your salvation

 

[Jackson123]

If all we had to do is ask for forgiveness, why did Jesus have to die?. Islam teaches that you just ask God forgiveness and thats it . No sacrifice for sins and no saviour.

Jesus die for one who believe His teaching and His teaching is to love not to murder.

 

[throughfaith]

Jesus die for one who believe His teaching and His teaching is to love not to murder.

Which verse says " Jesus died for the one who believe his teaching " ? which teaching ? All of it ? Does a lost person have to believe every single teaching? End times , Rapture , Israel , parables, ect all of it before he can be saved ? Some Christians don't learn about all of this until years after sometimes .

 

[Jackson123]

Which verse says " Jesus died for the one who believe his teaching " ? which teaching ? All of it ? Does a lost person have to believe every single teaching? End times , Rapture , Israel , parables, ect all of it before he can be saved ? Some Christians don't learn about all of this until years after sometimes .

Luke 10

25 And, behold, a certain lawyer stood up, and tempted him, saying, Master, what shall I do to inherit eternal life?

26 He said unto him, What is written in the law? how readest thou?

27 And he answering said, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy strength, and with all thy mind; and thy neighbour as thyself.

28 And he said unto him, Thou hast answered right: this do, and thou shalt live.



His main teaching is to love

Do this and you shall live

Jesus never Lie all his teaching is correct so why not believe all His teaching

 

[throughfaith]

Luke 10

25 And, behold, a certain lawyer stood up, and tempted him, saying, Master, what shall I do to inherit eternal life?

26 He said unto him, What is written in the law? how readest thou?

27 And he answering said, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy strength, and with all thy mind; and thy neighbour as thyself.

28 And he said unto him, Thou hast answered right: this do, and thou shalt live.



His main teaching is to love

Do this and you shall live

Jesus never Lie all his teaching is correct so why not believe all His teaching

Are you that lawyer? is this before or after the cross ? is this under the law still ? have you thought about any of this ? or do you just read all the red letters and think its all about you ?

 

[throughfaith]

Yep I believe we have to stop murder and repent to be save

Murder not only make you lose your reward, but your salvation

1 Peter 1:4 (KJV) To an inheritance incorruptible, and undefiled, and that fadeth not away, reserved in heaven for you,

 

[Jackson123]

Are you that lawyer? is this before or after the cross ? is this under the law still ? have you thought about any of this ? or do you just read all the red letters and think its all about you ?

My brother, I am not a lawyer. We still under the law of love

Do you believe now to be save It is ok to hate God and hate your neighbors

That is why I give you Galatians 5 thousand time I like to use as little as posible when talking about verse

So you understand 1 verse but deep.

Galatians 5:21 is after cross

And say murder etc not inherit KD

Murder >< love isn't It

Love> inherit KD Luke 10 >< murder hell

Is Luke 10 look inline with Galatians 5 or not?

 

[throughfaith]

My brother, I am not a lawyer. We still under the law of love

Do you believe now to be save It is ok to hate God and hate your neighbors

That is why I give you Galatians 5 thousand time I like to use as little as posible when talking about verse

So you understand 1 verse but deep.

Galatians 5:21 is after cross

And say murder etc not inherit KD

Murder >< love isn't It

Love> inherit KD Luke 10 >< murder hell

Is Luke 10 look inline with Galatians 5 or not?

in response to Gal 5 .
1 Peter 1:4 (KJV) To an inheritance incorruptible, and undefiled, and that fadeth not away, reserved in heaven for you,

 

[Blue_Of_Lake]

Which verse says " Jesus died for the one who believe his teaching " ? which teaching ? All of it ? Does a lost person have to believe every single teaching? End times , Rapture , Israel , parables, ect all of it before he can be saved ? Some Christians don't learn about all of this until years after sometimes .

His teaching is very simple. "Repent, for the Kingdom of Heaven is at hand".

no repent, no Kingdom. repent is of the Heart. no changes in Heart, no Kingdom. any Child can understand this. very simple. like unto the Command of honour Parents which many children Taught they should do (in one way or Another).

You must Change, the Kingdom is at Hand. you can Find it -- If you Change.

the more you Change (repent) the more you Find it.

if you do not believe this (have Faith that it will work and keep having faith) you may stop repenting and stop being as changed as you once were and stop changing too. so you also need to keep faith, believe, don't stop believing in Repent, repented, Kingdom -- at hand -- very Near -- unless you fall away from Faith -- not as Near.

 

[Jackson123]

1 Peter 1:4 (KJV) To an inheritance incorruptible, and undefiled, and that fadeth not away, reserved in heaven for you,

Let read from verse 2

2 Elect according to the foreknowledge of God the Father, through sanctification of the Spirit, unto obedience and sprinkling of the blood of Jesus Christ: Grace unto you, and peace, be multiplied.

3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, which according to his abundant mercy hath begotten us again unto a lively hope by the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead,

4 To an inheritance incorruptible, and undefiled, and that fadeth not away, reserved in heaven for you,

Verse 2

........unto obidience....

Do you believe heaven don't need verse 2 /obidience?

If so, why murder etc (not obidience)
not inherit KD/Galatians 5

Do you believe 1peter 1:4 against Galatians 5?

 

[Jackson123]

in response to Gal 5 .
1 Peter 1:4 (KJV) To an inheritance incorruptible, and undefiled, and that fadeth not away, reserved in heaven for you,

So my brother, do you realy believe bible against bible?

It Seem before verse 4, in verse 2 Peter mention about obidience

It Seem you believe not obey God, for Example murder, hate God instead of love Will go to heaven, am I correct?

 

[throughfaith]

His teaching is very simple. "Repent, for the Kingdom of Heaven is at hand".

no repent, no Kingdom. repent is of the Heart. no changes in Heart, no Kingdom. any Child can understand this. very simple. like unto the Command of honour Parents which many children Taught they should do (in one way or Another).

You must Change, the Kingdom is at Hand. you can Find it -- If you Change.

the more you Change (repent) the more you Find it.

if you do not believe this (have Faith that it will work and keep having faith) you may stop repenting and stop being as changed as you once were and stop changing too. so you also need to keep faith, believe, don't stop believing in Repent, repented, Kingdom -- at hand -- very Near -- unless you fall away from Faith -- not as Near.

Do you have a verse in the epistles where it says ' repent for the kingdom is at hand ' ? 1 cor 15 .1-4 is the Gospel . John the baptist and Jesus is speaking to ISRAEL there .

 

[throughfaith]

Let read from verse 2

2 Elect according to the foreknowledge of God the Father, through sanctification of the Spirit, unto obedience and sprinkling of the blood of Jesus Christ: Grace unto you, and peace, be multiplied.

3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, which according to his abundant mercy hath begotten us again unto a lively hope by the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead,

4 To an inheritance incorruptible, and undefiled, and that fadeth not away, reserved in heaven for you,

Verse 2

........unto obidience....

Do you believe heaven don't need verse 2 /obidience?

If so, why murder etc (not obidience)
not inherit KD/Galatians 5

Do you believe 1peter 1:4 against Galatians 5?

Have you murdered someone ?

 

[throughfaith]

So my brother, do you realy believe bible against bible?

It Seem before verse 4, in verse 2 Peter mention about obidience

It Seem you believe not obey God, for Example murder, hate God instead of love Will go to heaven, am I correct?

1 Peter 1:4 (KJV) To an inheritance incorruptible, and undefiled, and that fadeth not away, reserved in heaven for you,
just think about this verse a while .
An inheritance! ( interesting ) incorruptible! , undefiled! , fadeth not away ! RESERVED ( OK VERY INTERESTING ) WHERE ? In Heaven !!!!!

 

[throughfaith]

Let read from verse 2

2 Elect according to the foreknowledge of God the Father, through sanctification of the Spirit, unto obedience and sprinkling of the blood of Jesus Christ: Grace unto you, and peace, be multiplied.

3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, which according to his abundant mercy hath begotten us again unto a lively hope by the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead,

4 To an inheritance incorruptible, and undefiled, and that fadeth not away, reserved in heaven for you,

Verse 2

........unto obidience....

Do you believe heaven don't need verse 2 /obidience?

If so, why murder etc (not obidience)
not inherit KD/Galatians 5

Do you believe 1peter 1:4 against Galatians 5?

No its you believing Galations 5 is about loss of salvation. The obedience is to believe the Gospel. Just like Abraham was justified by his one act of faith .

 

[Blik]

If all we had to do is ask for forgiveness, why did Jesus have to die?. Islam teaches that you just ask God forgiveness and thats it . No sacrifice for sins and no saviour.

When evil was entered into our world through Adam and Eve it brought sin into our world and sin kills. Our loving creator did not want us to die,. Through the sacrifice's blood given by Christ He paid for our sins so we do not need to die.

Christ lived and died about 4,000 years after it happened that sin that kills entered our world, but God lives in a different dimension where time is different than our time. It is eternal time. Christ's sacrifice was done in eternal time and the blood of animals was used as a symbol of Christ.