KING JAMES VERSION BIBLE VS. MODERN ENGLISH BIBLES

[Lucy-Pevensie]

You are imagining fertility rites where there are none.
If you would treat the Holy Bible as a legal document you wouldn’t casually accept modern perversions of scripture so humbly.

Perhaps it's time for the reporting of offensive posts? You have scores of them. Christians don't condemn the Bible. Atheists and pagans do. I've asked you to stop your crazed ranting before.

 

[MarcR]

Why then, are you found guilt tripping people? Romans 14 teaches you that others serve the Lord differently that you do. It is a dangerous thing to be hurting consciences.

ONCE AGAIN: THIS IS NOT ABOUT ANYBODYS CELEBRATION OF EASTER!!!!!

THIS IS ONLY ABOUT CLAIMS OF SPECIAL INSPIRATION OF THE KJV

 

[Joseppi]

Defend this heresy...


"The Christ in me IS NOT the same Christ that's in someone who came to understand Christ a different way than I did."

There are false Christ’s.

 

[MarcR]

Our calendar makes it obvious that it does vary with the variation of the moon.
Whereas, moon calendars hide the variation somewhat.

Passover is ALWAYS Abib 14


The Gregorian calendar, which we use, has 365.25 day solar years.

The Lunar/Solar calendar, which the Bible refers to, has 354 day years with 383 day leap years 7 times every 17 years; to keep the months in their proper seasons. It is slightly more complex but this is adequate here.

 

[Lucy-Pevensie]

 

[Joseppi]

I am NOT interested in judging others who observe Easter in traditional ways!

This thread is about your claims that the KJV was uniquely inspired. I am stating my certainty that God would NEVER inspire ANYONE to mingle Jesus resurrection with fertility rites honoring a pagan goddess.

Nonsense.
The “easter is pagan” is the lie. And the intellectually prideful are the ones duped by the lie.
While at the same time the heathen scholars invent corrupt bibles that attack the Holy Bible as their followers defend and ignore the corruption of scripture that is found in modern bibles.

 

[Lucy-Pevensie]

Nonsense.
The “easter is pagan” is the lie. And the intellectually prideful are the ones duped by the lie.
While at the same time the heathen scholars invent corrupt bibles that attack the Holy Bible as their followers defend and ignore the corruption of scripture that is found in modern bibles.

 

[trofimus]

Nonsense.
The “easter is pagan” is the lie. And the intellectually prideful are the ones duped by the lie.
While at the same time the heathen scholars invent corrupt bibles that attack the Holy Bible as their followers defend and ignore the corruption of scripture that is found in modern bibles.

You do not seem to be any less prideful than any intelectual.

The only difference is that your arguments are more fanatical than intelectual.

 

[hornetguy]

ONCE AGAIN: THIS IS NOT ABOUT ANYBODYS CELEBRATION OF EASTER!!!!!

THIS IS ONLY ABOUT CLAIMS OF SPECIAL INSPIRATION OF THE KJV

Sooooo..... I think I hear you saying this thread is NOT about Easter? Or am I jumping to a conclusion here?

 

[Joseppi]

My point was that the translators' decision to substitute Easter for Paska or Firstrruits does in fact mingle pagan fertility rites with the Resurrection as is evident when you walk into Walmart or any similar business.

The Holy Ghost published the Authorized Holy Bible as reading it faithfully proves.

But, centuries later the heathen scholars came up with a plot to publish corrupt texts full of lies to try and cause the church to stumble at the time of the end.

 

[Joseppi]

Pascha means Passover. It’s not BS. That’s what it literally means. Easter was not even a word when Acts 12:4 was written by Luke.

Easter refers to resurrection.

 

[Joseppi]

I'm talking about the meaning of Easter, I'm not talking about the apostolic age.

The Christian celebration of Christ’s resurrection was never called Passover, nor did the Christians worship any pagan deities.
The modern bible lovers are just googling whatever they wish to try and spin against God’s Authorized Holy Bible.

Why do they spin the information guilefully?

They do it because they have nothing to attack scripture with but nonsense arguments.

 

[Joseppi]

Do you have an opinion of why the translators chose the word Easter? I mean in your view Easter is basically a blasphemous word. Do you think the translators were ignorant and forgot what pascha meant when they got to that verse? I'm just interested in your thoughts as to why they did it.

They chose it because the context is celebration of Christ’s resurrection, not Passover.

 

[Joseppi]

You have already been shown that in 1611 Easter referred to a fertility goddess; not the resurrection; and because of the bad translation, pagan fertility rites have been conflated with the Resurrection. I can't believe that this was inspired!

Easter is unrelated to pagan religions.
You are spinning a fraudulent attack against the scripture of God.

 

[Joseppi]

Yes, I am usually not getting your points

The goal of Luke was to tell us when that event happened. With word "Easter" we cannot identify it, because modern Easter is not at that time and ancient Easter was a pagan holiday celebrated in a totally different time.

So, for a correct reading, the word "Pascha" needs to be used, as also Luke uses.

The KJV uses anachronism, the same as with "candle", "brass" or lets say "computer" instead of pergamen.

There was no Easter any thing going on around Herod.
Its a made up argument.

 

[trofimus]

There was no Easter any thing going on around Herod.
Its a made up argument.

Exactly. Luke did not have any Easter in mind. Thats why it should not be in the Bible. Not to say in a "perfect, infallible and inspired" one.

 

[Joseppi]

Have you any idea how silly this sounds!

The word and the concept of easter (it was a pagan festival) did not exist for the people who wrote the New testament.
You need to accept that the word "Easter" does NOT belong in any translation of the Bible in ANY language at ANY time!

There is just no getting away from the fact that the word translated "Easter" in the KJV is "πάσχα " which means "Passover".
No amount of sophistry can change this.
This is an error of translation and there is no denying it!
It is likely that the word "Easter" in the KJV actually did not come from a Greek language manuscript but from the Latin Vulgate.
If I dug deep enough I could probably confirm it, but its source is immaterial - it is an error....

The Greek word doesn’t mean Passover, nor does it refer to a pagan festival. That’s why you must avoid digging.
You would find out you are caught up in modern spin doctoring.

 

[Joseppi]

The meaning of Easter for us it irrelevant. Luke was just using Jewish regular event to tell us when that thing in Acts happened. Nothing more.

And it happened after Pascha.

You have identified the wrong feast.
Herod wasn’t concerned with Passover.

 

[Joseppi]

The KJ translators didn't have a complete set of manuscripts to use, they had bits missing so they used other sources like The Latin Vulgate to "fill in" as bet they could.

That isn’t how the translation was done.

 

[Joseppi]

I see no profit in speculating on their motives. I know that they were using the work of Erasmus, who had strong Catholic leanings. Catholics like to paganize Christian observances. That may have motivated Erasmus and they might have copied.

There, NOW I DID SPECULATE, and I don't like to do so.

You need to actually study how the translation was done instead of presenting incorrect assumptions convenient to attacking the veracity of the scriptures in the Authorized.