KING JAMES VERSION BIBLE VS. MODERN ENGLISH BIBLES

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trofimus

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You have identified the wrong feast.
Herod wasn’t concerned with Passover.
ὃν καὶ πιάσας ἔθετο εἰς φυλακήν, παραδοὺς τέσσαρσιν τετραδίοις στρατιωτῶν φυλάσσειν αὐτόν, βουλόμενος μετὰ τὸ Πάσχα ἀναγαγεῖν αὐτὸν τῷ λαῷ.

"After arresting him, he put him in prison, handing him over to be guarded by four squads of four soldiers each. Herod intended to bring him out for public trial after the Passover."
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Strong's Concordance
pascha: the Passover, the Passover supper or lamb
Original Word: πάσχα, τό
Part of Speech: Aramaic Transliterated Word (Indeclinable)
Transliteration: pascha
Phonetic Spelling: (pas'-khah)
Short Definition: the feast of Passover, the Passover lamb
Definition: the feast of Passover, the Passover lamb.

--- Strong´s concordance is made to fit the KJV meanings
 

Joseppi

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No. Easter is the spring festival devoted to the worship of the goddess Astoreth.

Astoreth (Northwest Semitic), a form of Ishtar (East Semitic), worshipped from the Bronze Age through classical antiquity. The name is particularly associated with her worship in the ancient Levant among the Canaanites and Phoenicians. She was also celebrated in Egypt following the importation of Levantine cults there. The name Astarte is sometimes also applied to her cults in Mesopotamian cultures like Assyria and Babylonia. Astarte (Greek: Ἀστάρτη, Astártē) is the Hellenized form of the Middle Eastern goddess
Note: the spin presented ignores information to the contrary.
Just because pagans have spring equinox festivals has no bearing whatsoever on Easter the celebration of Christ’s resurrection.
 

Joseppi

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Easter is the fulfillment of Passover, why do you say they're not related?
Because Easter occurs after Passover.
Passover occurred on one night.
Easter occurs after Jesus, the Passover lamb was in the grave three days and three nights.
After all the sabbath days. On the first day of the week.
 

Joseppi

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Joseppi you are the obvious cut and paste merchant here. It shows in many of your posts. You don't speak as if English is your first language. And you parrot the shibboleths of the cult which has indoctrinated you. You have become your own most oft repeated word, Corrupted.
I have not googled anything. And instead of just assuming I have try to google any response of mine.
Whst you are confronted with is the Authorized being true and many of your notions being shown to be false.
 

Lucy-Pevensie

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I have not googled anything. And instead of just assuming I have try to google any response of mine.
Whst you are confronted with is the Authorized being true and many of your notions being shown to be false.
You cut and paste all the time. You have stock answers and put-downs from KJVO cult sources. Not very well camouflaged. And you do not display a particularly impressive intellect.

If you want an odd, anachronistic sect of Christianity where you can worship a crusty old King James English you go on and exercise your free will and do that. But you do NOT get to claim the moral high ground.
 

Joseppi

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Perhaps it's time for the reporting of offensive posts? You have scores of them. Christians don't condemn the Bible. Atheists and pagans do. I've asked you to stop your crazed ranting before.
I condemn corruption of scripture. You merely claim to be unaware of the corruption. You think God is upset because I hate the modern bible corruption? I know that God isn’t mad at me, and that he will not side with anyone that attacks scripture.
 

Joseppi

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ONCE AGAIN: THIS IS NOT ABOUT ANYBODYS CELEBRATION OF EASTER!!!!!

THIS IS ONLY ABOUT CLAIMS OF SPECIAL INSPIRATION OF THE KJV
Pound the table if it makes you feel better. The Authorized remains God’s Holy Bible, all bibles to the contrary, notwithstanding it’s authority.
 

Lucy-Pevensie

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I condemn corruption of scripture. You merely claim to be unaware of the corruption. You think God is upset because I hate the modern bible corruption? I know that God isn’t mad at me, and that he will not side with anyone that attacks scripture.
Then why do you keep attacking scripture?
 

Lucy-Pevensie

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I condemn corruption of scripture. You merely claim to be unaware of the corruption. You think God is upset because I hate the modern bible corruption? I know that God isn’t mad at me, and that he will not side with anyone that attacks scripture.
And which god do you serve? Which god causes you to rage at the written word of The Lord God of Israel so?
 

Joseppi

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Passover is ALWAYS Abib 14


The Gregorian calendar, which we use, has 365.25 day solar years.

The Lunar/Solar calendar, which the Bible refers to, has 354 day years with 383 day leap years 7 times every 17 years; to keep the months in their proper seasons. It is slightly more complex but this is adequate here.
So then we agree. I was pointing why the Jewish calendar seemed invariable, but that’s because their calendar is varied so as to align with the moon.
 

Joseppi

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Sooooo..... I think I hear you saying this thread is NOT about Easter? Or am I jumping to a conclusion here? :D
I hear him saying he has a reason to attack God’s Authorized Holy Bible.
I know he has no reason to attack it, especially while claiming modern bibles are ok.
 

Joseppi

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Exactly. Luke did not have any Easter in mind. Thats why it should not be in the Bible. Not to say in a "perfect, infallible and inspired" one.
I meant, no pagan festival called Easter.
 

MarcR

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Nonsense.
The “easter is pagan” is the lie. And the intellectually prideful are the ones duped by the lie.
While at the same time the heathen scholars invent corrupt bibles that attack the Holy Bible as their followers defend and ignore the corruption of scripture that is found in modern bibles.
Why do you suppose the Shorter OXford English Dictionary defines Easter as a pagan Goddess whose feast day is the vernal equinox?

Why do you suppose that many stores sel fertility symbols like candy eggs and chocolate bunnies at Easter?

Why are you so ready to speak without knowing what you are talking about? I would think it would be embarrassing!
 

Dino246

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You are imagining fertility rites where there are none.
If you would treat the Holy Bible as a legal document you wouldn’t casually accept modern perversions of scripture so humbly.
Fallacy: circular reasoning.

If you would treat all translations as Holy Scripture you wouldn't casually blaspheme the word of God so blithely.
 

Lucy-Pevensie

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I hear him saying he has a reason to attack God’s Authorized Holy Bible.
I know he has no reason to attack it, especially while claiming modern bibles are ok.

Modern Bibles are ok. Thank God for modern Bibles!!


 

Joseppi

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ὃν καὶ πιάσας ἔθετο εἰς φυλακήν, παραδοὺς τέσσαρσιν τετραδίοις στρατιωτῶν φυλάσσειν αὐτόν, βουλόμενος μετὰ τὸ Πάσχα ἀναγαγεῖν αὐτὸν τῷ λαῷ.

"After arresting him, he put him in prison, handing him over to be guarded by four squads of four soldiers each. Herod intended to bring him out for public trial after the Passover."
NIV

Strong's Concordance
pascha: the Passover, the Passover supper or lamb
Original Word: πάσχα, τό
Part of Speech: Aramaic Transliterated Word (Indeclinable)
Transliteration: pascha
Phonetic Spelling: (pas'-khah)
Short Definition: the feast of Passover, the Passover lamb
Definition: the feast of Passover, the Passover lamb.

--- Strong´s concordance is made to fit the KJV meanings
Jesus is the Passover lamb, and Easter deals with the resurrection of Jesus.
The translators understood that, that was the context of Herod’s concern, not Passover.
 

Dino246

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That isn’t how the translation was done.
You need to actually study how the translation was done instead of presenting incorrect assumptions convenient to attacking the veracity of the scriptures in the Authorized.
Prove it with evidence. Making assertions of fact without evidence adds nothing to the discussion.
 

Joseppi

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You cut and paste all the time. You have stock answers and put-downs from KJVO cult sources. Not very well camouflaged. And you do not display a particularly impressive intellect.

If you want an odd, anachronistic sect of Christianity where you can worship a crusty old King James English you go on and exercise your free will and do that. But you do NOT get to claim the moral high ground.
Well I told you the truth, so I’ll leave it be, except to remind folks that googling will prove whether plagiarism is involved.