KING JAMES VERSION BIBLE VS. MODERN ENGLISH BIBLES

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Dino246

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Post a contradiction in the KJV and I'll take a look. So far, none have been posted.
The age of Ahaziah when he became king is listed in two places in the KJV, and they aren't the same number. You refused to accept it as a contradiction and instead and posted a convoluted excuse.
 
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because Ostern is a pagan goddess, while Osterfest is Passover.
DIFFERENT WORDS Similar but different.
I told you I believe Luther and Wycliffe rather than your Bede hearsay.
 
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The age of Ahaziah when he became king is listed in two places in the KJV, and they aren't the same number. You refused to accept it as a contradiction and instead and posted a convoluted excuse.
Easter in lieu of Passover...

Lucifer, which is a transliterated LATIN word...

There’s two more...
 
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The age of Ahaziah when he became king is listed in two places in the KJV, and they aren't the same number. You refused to accept it as a contradiction and instead and posted a convoluted excuse.
Which Ahaziah are you talking about? There are different Ahaziahs in that story. I’m almost 100% certain that you didn’t know that.
 

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Nor have we called it corrupted. I see it has errors, but I wouldn’t say it’s corrupted/perverted as KJVO’ers call MV’s.

They bash our bibles and then cry like a baby with a wet diaper when we come back at them.
This gives a whole new meaning to the term "Bible Bashers" ;)
 

Dino246

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Which Ahaziah are you talking about? There are different Ahaziahs in that story. I’m almost 100% certain that you didn’t know that.
I am 100% certain that was your reasoning the last time this issue came up. I don't accept it as true because it's not supported by the text.

2 Kings 8: [SUP]25 [/SUP]In the twelfth year of Joram the son of Ahab king of Israel did Ahaziah the son of Jehoram king of Judah begin to reign.
[SUP]26 [/SUP]Two and twenty years old was Ahaziah when he began to reign; and he reigned one year in Jerusalem. And his mother's name was Athaliah, the daughter of Omri king of Israel.

2 Chronicles 22: 1 And the inhabitants of Jerusalem made Ahaziah his youngest son king in his stead: for the band of men that came with the Arabians to the camp had slain all the eldest. So Ahaziah the son of Jehoram king of Judah reigned.

[SUP]2 [/SUP]Forty and two years old was Ahaziah when he began to reign, and he reigned one year in Jerusalem. His mother's name also was Athaliah the daughter of Omri.


It's the same person. The details make it irrefutable. Kings says he was 22, Chronicles says 42.

It's a contradiction, clear and plain, with no room for weaseling, wiggling, or convolutions.
 

Joseppi

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The Days of Unleavened Bread do occur after Passover, but right after, and they are associated with Passover, forming part of the same festal season.
The context wasn’t Passover. The feast was stated in the scripture

“Acts 12:3 ...(Then were the days of unleavened bread.)

The parenthetical stresses a necessary factual understanding that Passover was over and the time was the feast of unleavened bread.

It's "pascha", the same word translated as "Passover" elsewhere in the KJV. There is no justification evident in the text to translate it as anything other than "Passover".
The context is specified as during...the Days of Unleavened Bread...after the Passover.

On Easter the celebration of the resurrection of our passover lamb, Jesus Christ of Nazareth.

What you and the other KJV-onlyists need to do is come up with some first-century evidence that Christians in the earliest decade of the church celebrated "Easter" as distinct from "Passover" and then come up with textual evidence that justifies the use of the term instead of "Passover". So far, there has been nothing approaching either.
The context provided by scripture is precise, and precisely what is needful to determine that it was not Passover, nor the feast of Unleavened Bread that Herod referred to, for Passover was over, it was Easter that Herod wanted to use against the followers of the risen Christ Jesus.

And Herod was judged for his evil intention. Herod was an antichrist. He wanted to rule over Israel. But he was eaten of worms as he sat lusting to be called God.

Herod should’ve taken heed of Psalms 2...

12 Kiss the Son, lest he be angry, and ye perish from the way, when his wrath is kindled but a little. Blessed are all they that put their trust in him.
 
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I am 100% certain that was your reasoning the last time this issue came up. I don't accept it as true because it's not supported by the text.

2 Kings 8: [SUP]25 [/SUP]In the twelfth year of Joram the son of Ahab king of Israel did Ahaziah the son of Jehoram king of Judah begin to reign.
[SUP]26 [/SUP]Two and twenty years old was Ahaziah when he began to reign; and he reigned one year in Jerusalem. And his mother's name was Athaliah, the daughter of Omri king of Israel.

2 Chronicles 22: 1 And the inhabitants of Jerusalem made Ahaziah his youngest son king in his stead: for the band of men that came with the Arabians to the camp had slain all the eldest. So Ahaziah the son of Jehoram king of Judah reigned.

[SUP]2 [/SUP]Forty and two years old was Ahaziah when he began to reign, and he reigned one year in Jerusalem. His mother's name also was Athaliah the daughter of Omri.


It's the same person. The details make it irrefutable. Kings says he was 22, Chronicles says 42.

It's a contradiction, clear and plain, with no room for weaseling, wiggling, or convolutions.
Hang on now, the verse you posted said Ahaziah was the son of Jehoram. Who is Ahaziah the son of Ahab?

1 Kings 22:40 So Ahab slept with his fathers; and Ahaziah his son reigned in his stead.
 
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Joseppi

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IF this were a valid comment (which it is not), it would still be a self-refuting argument, because "pascha" should then be translated as "Passover lamb" in the KJV.
What was referred to by Herod was the timing of when best to bring forth Peter before the people.

It was the people, whom Herod sought to turn away from believing in the risen Jesus of Nazareth.

Acts 12:4 And when he had apprehended him, he put him in prison, and delivered him to four quaternions of soldiers to keep him; intending after Easterto bring him forth to the people.

So it wasn’t pascha, the passover lamb eaten back on Passover that set the time Herod chose. For it was already the Days of Unleavened Bread. It was Jesus, the pascha, the passover lamb, whose resurrection was celebrated by the followers of Jesus.
 

MarcR

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Hang on now, the verse you posted said Ahaziah was the son of Jehoram. Who is Ahaziah the son of Ahab?

1 Kings 22:40 So Ahab slept with his fathers; and Ahaziah his son reigned in his stead.
There were 2 Ahaziahs the son of Ahaz and the grandson of Ahaz
 

Dino246

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Hang on now, the verse you posted said Ahaziah was the son of Jehoram. Who is Ahaziah the son of Ahab?

1 Kings 22:40 So Ahab slept with his fathers; and Ahaziah his son reigned in his stead.
I posted the verses that contradict each other, both talking about Ahaziah the son of Jehoram, of Judah, not of Israel. Let's not get sidetracked.
 
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I posted the verses that contradict each other, both talking about Ahaziah the son of Jehoram, of Judah, not of Israel. Let's not get sidetracked.
I'm just establishing the fact that there are 3 Ahaziah's contemporary at that time. Who is Ahaziah son of Joram?

2 Kings 8:24 And Joram slept with his fathers, and was buried with his fathers in the city of David: and Ahaziah his son reigned in his stead.
 
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I'm tired tonight, I will return tomorrow to see what kind of bible twisting you guys can come up with to prove the KJV is wrong lol.
 
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I'm tired tonight, I will return tomorrow to see what kind of bible twisting you guys can come up with to prove the KJV is wrong lol.

Who said It was wrong....we are just saying that it is not INSPIRED, not the only VALID source of truth, is a TRANSLATION/TRANSLITERATION and does contain translationial errors.....
 
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I posted the verses that contradict each other, both talking about Ahaziah the son of Jehoram, of Judah, not of Israel. Let's not get sidetracked.
I can tell he still has the burlap sack over his head. You showed him irrefutable proof and he still refuses to believe it.
 
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Who said It was wrong....we are just saying that it is not INSPIRED, not the only VALID source of truth, is a TRANSLATION/TRANSLITERATION and does contain translationial errors.....
Showing him two verses that contradict someone's age and now that's called bible twisting. He's the one twisting as we show him error after error of his 'god' the KJV.
 

MarcR

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Showing him two verses that contradict someone's age and now that's called bible twisting. He's the one twisting as we show him error after error of his 'god' the KJV.
I don't think he realizes what he is doing. He seems to make an real effort to respond honestly.

He holds the doctrine of unique inspiration so strongly that he can't accept anything that challenges it as real.
 

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I'm just establishing the fact that there are 3 Ahaziah's contemporary at that time. Who is Ahaziah son of Joram?

2 Kings 8:24 And Joram slept with his fathers, and was buried with his fathers in the city of David: and Ahaziah his son reigned in his stead.
Thats a standard response of KJVO people to any KJV contradiction - you just multiply persons, events etc.

While it may work for you, it is not a reasonable thinking. Also, you do not apply the same thinking to other translations like with the Goliath "problem".
 
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I don't think he realizes what he is doing. He seems to make an real effort to respond honestly.

He holds the doctrine of unique inspiration so strongly that he can't accept anything that challenges it as real.
That's what I call someone who walks around with a burlap sack over his head. We've shown him the errors contained in the KJV, and he will not take that blasted sack off. :mad:

Two differing ages of