People that speak of the glorious grace of Christ and what He has done use the scriptures to prove what they believe.
God does not "show people" that believing in the finished work of Christ is wrong and not Biblical despite the fact that it may "conflict" with what they believe from their different church backgrounds.
The maligning of the so-called hyper grace gospel of the Lord Jesus Christ is what is not Biblical. It "conflicts" with some church traditions and thus it has been mis-represented in so many ways. Things that are said get "twisted" to make it "appear" to be something else and then they attack the "twisted" version.
Here is an example:
Someone says " The sky is so blue...isn't it beautiful?"
Another hears this person speak and says " What?...you are a false teacher...the sky is not green...everyone knows it is blue."
We are allowed to have different views without people maligning others and at the very least they need to say what is really being spoken accurately so that things can be discussed in an honest manner. They are allowed to disagree as well. No one is asking for people to agree with everything anyone says - just be honest in what is really being said and represent it accurately.
People use the bible as if it is God. The scriptures themselves are not God. They are to lead us to Christ. Jesus Himself said that very fact.
John 5:39-40 (NASB)
[SUP]39 [/SUP] "You search the Scriptures because you think that in them you have eternal life; it is these that testify about Me;
[SUP]40 [/SUP] and you are unwilling to come to Me so that you may have life.
We can have our heads full of Bible knowledge but not really know what they are saying unless the scriptures are illuminated by the Holy Spirit to reveal Christ to us.
The scribes in Jesus' day knew the scriptures but they did not know what they meant or that they were referring to Christ. We can memorize the scriptures, be able to quote 1/2 the NT, read it fluently in Greek, Hebrew, Aramaic, pray 5 hours a day, go to every church service - and still not know the meaning of the scriptures and how they reveal Christ to us.
What it all boils down to is this: people have different interpretations of some scriptures. We are all a product of what we have studied or learned from our religious upbringing. Even people that go to seminary or bible school will come out with what that denomination teaches of the school they went to.
If that place where we study from doesn't believe in the gifts of the Spirit are for today - that student will come out of that school believing the same thing. If they do go to a place that believes the gifts of the Spirit are in operation today - then they will come out believing the same thing as they were taught. The interesting thing is that both groups will use the "Greek and Hebrew" to back up their beliefs.
Never allow anyone to try to "lord it over you in your faith toward the Lord Jesus Christ" with what they have studied and thus their "interpretation" of the scriptures is the right one so you have to listen to what "they" say it means. This is part of the doctrine of the Nicolaitans which Jesus hates.
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We should always listen to everyone as the Holy Spirit is in all of us and He is the One that reveals all of Jesus and the things that God has done for us. Personally I love to look at the Greek as it has many shades of meaning but we can read "Greek and Hebrew" through the eyes of our natural mind too so we are still dependent on the Holy Spirit to reveal Jesus in them.
I firmly believe that we are just as dependent on the Holy Spirit to reveal Jesus in the scriptures ( No matter what language you read it in ) to us, as Mary was dependent on the Holy spirit to conceive Jesus in her womb.
So, I encourage all of us to listen to everyone and pray to discern what is of God and what is not. We can trust the Holy Spirit in us to reveal Jesus. He will be faithful to us.
God does not "show people" that believing in the finished work of Christ is wrong and not Biblical despite the fact that it may "conflict" with what they believe from their different church backgrounds.
The maligning of the so-called hyper grace gospel of the Lord Jesus Christ is what is not Biblical. It "conflicts" with some church traditions and thus it has been mis-represented in so many ways. Things that are said get "twisted" to make it "appear" to be something else and then they attack the "twisted" version.
Here is an example:
Someone says " The sky is so blue...isn't it beautiful?"
Another hears this person speak and says " What?...you are a false teacher...the sky is not green...everyone knows it is blue."
We are allowed to have different views without people maligning others and at the very least they need to say what is really being spoken accurately so that things can be discussed in an honest manner. They are allowed to disagree as well. No one is asking for people to agree with everything anyone says - just be honest in what is really being said and represent it accurately.
People use the bible as if it is God. The scriptures themselves are not God. They are to lead us to Christ. Jesus Himself said that very fact.
John 5:39-40 (NASB)
[SUP]39 [/SUP] "You search the Scriptures because you think that in them you have eternal life; it is these that testify about Me;
[SUP]40 [/SUP] and you are unwilling to come to Me so that you may have life.
We can have our heads full of Bible knowledge but not really know what they are saying unless the scriptures are illuminated by the Holy Spirit to reveal Christ to us.
The scribes in Jesus' day knew the scriptures but they did not know what they meant or that they were referring to Christ. We can memorize the scriptures, be able to quote 1/2 the NT, read it fluently in Greek, Hebrew, Aramaic, pray 5 hours a day, go to every church service - and still not know the meaning of the scriptures and how they reveal Christ to us.
What it all boils down to is this: people have different interpretations of some scriptures. We are all a product of what we have studied or learned from our religious upbringing. Even people that go to seminary or bible school will come out with what that denomination teaches of the school they went to.
If that place where we study from doesn't believe in the gifts of the Spirit are for today - that student will come out of that school believing the same thing. If they do go to a place that believes the gifts of the Spirit are in operation today - then they will come out believing the same thing as they were taught. The interesting thing is that both groups will use the "Greek and Hebrew" to back up their beliefs.
Never allow anyone to try to "lord it over you in your faith toward the Lord Jesus Christ" with what they have studied and thus their "interpretation" of the scriptures is the right one so you have to listen to what "they" say it means. This is part of the doctrine of the Nicolaitans which Jesus hates.
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We should always listen to everyone as the Holy Spirit is in all of us and He is the One that reveals all of Jesus and the things that God has done for us. Personally I love to look at the Greek as it has many shades of meaning but we can read "Greek and Hebrew" through the eyes of our natural mind too so we are still dependent on the Holy Spirit to reveal Jesus in them.
I firmly believe that we are just as dependent on the Holy Spirit to reveal Jesus in the scriptures ( No matter what language you read it in ) to us, as Mary was dependent on the Holy spirit to conceive Jesus in her womb.
So, I encourage all of us to listen to everyone and pray to discern what is of God and what is not. We can trust the Holy Spirit in us to reveal Jesus. He will be faithful to us.
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