Link between Rv17 and Daniel 2

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peterT

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Link between Rv17 and Daniel 2
When Daniel had the dream there were two other kingdoms before Babylon that makes making seven.
John said And there are seven kings: five are fallen, and one is, [and] the other is not yet come; and when he cometh, he must continue a short space.
 
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Link between Rv17 and Daniel 2
When Daniel had the dream there were two other kingdoms before Babylon that makes making seven.
John said And there are seven kings: five are fallen, and one is, [and] the other is not yet come; and when he cometh, he must continue a short space.
Thats right Peter. John was under the Roman Empire. The next kingdom which is the last had (has) not emerged yet to show us who they are exactly....they continue a short space. So it is not that same Roman Empire which is to come.

But we know they are the kings of the North. North of Jerusalem. They did not use north west, north east etc in those days, but they are North of Jerusalem (Europe) and there will be 10 leaders who will unite as one strong mighty powerful beast (empire) with one army, one currency, one law, one religion....one leader who will soon after gain control of the whole world. He is the false prophet and this is where he emerges from (Europe)
 
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Thats right Peter. John was under the Roman Empire. The next kingdom which is the last had (has) not emerged yet to show us who they are exactly....they continue a short space. So it is not that same Roman Empire which is to come.

But we know they are the kings of the North. North of Jerusalem. They did not use north west, north east etc in those days, but they are North of Jerusalem (Europe) and there will be 10 leaders who will unite as one strong mighty powerful beast (empire) with one army, one currency, one law, one religion....one leader who will soon after gain control of the whole world. He is the false prophet and this is where he emerges from (Europe)


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Link between Rv17 and Daniel 2
When Daniel had the dream there were two other kingdoms before Babylon, that makes making seven.
John said when living in the days of Rome there are seven kings: five are fallen, and one is, [and] the other is not yet come; and when he cometh, he must continue a short space.
 

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peterT

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Thats right Peter. John was under the Roman Empire. The next kingdom which is the last had (has) not emerged yet to show us who they are exactly....they continue a short space. So it is not that same Roman Empire which is to come.

But we know they are the kings of the North. North of Jerusalem. They did not use north west, north east etc in those days, but they are North of Jerusalem (Europe) and there will be 10 leaders who will unite as one strong mighty powerful beast (empire) with one army, one currency, one law, one religion....one leader who will soon after gain control of the whole world. He is the false prophet and this is where he emerges from (Europe)
Hi you might want to add these verses to that story

Daniel 7:8 I considered the horns, and, behold, there came up among them another little horn, before whom there were three of the first horns plucked up by the roots: and, behold, in this horn [were] eyes like the eyes of man, and a mouth speaking great things.
24 And the ten horns out of this kingdom [are] ten kings [that] shall arise: and another shall rise after them; and he shall be diverse from the first, and he shall subdue three kings.
 
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RachelBibleStudent

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why couldn't the seven kings actually be real kings?
 
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RachelBibleStudent

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They are real kings but john said five are fallen, and one is, [and] the other is not yet come
but you were just saying they were seven empires...

also you left several ancient empires out of your chart...who decides which empires are important?
 
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peterT

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but you were just saying they were seven empires...

also you left several ancient empires out of your chart...who decides which empires are important?
YEP. 7 empires which had 7 kings
 
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peterT

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but you were just saying they were seven empires...

also you left several ancient empires out of your chart...who decides which empires are important?
No not from Bible history...


When John was alive in bible history 5 empires had already fallen
 
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RachelBibleStudent

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No not from Bible history...


When John was alive in bible history 5 empires had already fallen
what about nimrod's empire? or kedorlaomer's elamite empire?
 
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peterT

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what about nimrod's empire? or kedorlaomer's elamite empire?
Genesis 10:9He was a mighty hunter before the LORD: wherefore it is said, Even as Nimrod the mighty hunter before the LORD.
But he wasn’t a world power in bible history
 
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RachelBibleStudent

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Genesis 10:9He was a mighty hunter before the LORD: wherefore it is said, Even as Nimrod the mighty hunter before the LORD.
But he wasn’t a world power in bible history
yes he was...read the next few verses...
 
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peterT

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yes he was...read the next few verses...
i did...

Egypt was a World Power and when God destroyed it, and it had a king when it fell
The Assyrian Empire was a World Power and it had a king when it fell
Babylon was a World Power and it had a king when it fell
Medo-persia was a World Power and it had a king when it fell
Greece was a World Power and it had a king when it fell
Roman was a World Power and it had a king when it fell
And the other which is (not yet come) will have a will have a king when it falls
 
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peterT

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what about nimrod's empire? or kedorlaomer's elamite empire?
I think you are getting mixed up with Gods people and the devils 7 system kingdoms of Bible history
Which the woman siteth on
Rv17. I will shew unto thee the judgment of the great whore that sitteth upon many waters:

2 With whom the kings of the earth have committed fornication, and the inhabitants of the earth have been made drunk with the wine of her fornication.

3 So he carried me away in the spirit into the wilderness: and I saw a woman sit upon a scarlet coloured beast, full of names of blasphemy, having seven heads and ten horns.


Matt4;8 Again, the devil taketh him up into an exceeding high mountain, and sheweth him all the kingdoms of the world, and the glory of them;9 And saith unto him, All these things will I give thee, if thou wilt fall down and worship me.
 
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CrimsonFlames

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excellent post and right on the money
 
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RachelBibleStudent

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i did...

Egypt was a World Power and when God destroyed it, and it had a king when it fell
The Assyrian Empire was a World Power and it had a king when it fell
Babylon was a World Power and it had a king when it fell
Medo-persia was a World Power and it had a king when it fell
Greece was a World Power and it had a king when it fell
Roman was a World Power and it had a king when it fell
And the other which is (not yet come) will have a will have a king when it falls
egypt fell about four times actually...likewise for assyria and babylon...

rome had more than one king when it fell...
 
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Laodicea

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i did...

Egypt was a World Power and when God destroyed it, and it had a king when it fell
The Assyrian Empire was a World Power and it had a king when it fell
Babylon was a World Power and it had a king when it fell
Medo-persia was a World Power and it had a king when it fell
Greece was a World Power and it had a king when it fell
Roman was a World Power and it had a king when it fell
And the other which is (not yet come) will have a will have a king when it falls
How do you know that Egypt and Assyria are the first two heads? If we put all the 7 headed beasts in Revelation together then Babylon would be the first.
 
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peterT

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How do you know that Egypt and Assyria are the first two heads? If we put all the 7 headed beasts in Revelation together then Babylon would be the first.
Not according to Bible history

Look at the image, Babylonian is the third kingdom.

When Daniel had the dream he was the third kingdom, the third world power that rose to rule the world, Egypt was the first power to rise and rule the world then God destroyed it. Then in its place the Assyrian Empire rose to rule the world. That makes Babylonian the third.
 
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