-
Christian Chat is a moderated online Christian community allowing Christians around the world to fellowship with each other in real time chat via webcam, voice, and text, with the Christian Chat app. You can also start or participate in a Bible-based discussion here in the Christian Chat Forums, where members can also share with each other their own videos, pictures, or favorite Christian music.
If you are a Christian and need encouragement and fellowship, we're here for you! If you are not a Christian but interested in knowing more about Jesus our Lord, you're also welcome! Want to know what the Bible says, and how you can apply it to your life? Join us!
To make new Christian friends now around the world, click here to join Christian Chat.
1
Ok so the PeterT translation of Daniel 9:24 is...
24Seventy years are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy.
The KJV is...
24Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy.
Either way, I still don't know of any interpretation that sees this as only being 70 years...
24Seventy years are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy.
The KJV is...
24Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy.
Either way, I still don't know of any interpretation that sees this as only being 70 years...
A
congrats you just qualified yourself as a false prophet, according to your own standards.
A week is not a week its seven years?
so does a week mean seven days or seven years in this passage?
Matthew 28:1
Now after the Sabbath, as the first day of the week began to dawn, Mary Magdalene and the other Mary came to see the tomb.
oh just saw your post so Daniel did this for 21 years not 21 days then?
Daniel 10:3
I ate no pleasant food, no meat or wine came into my mouth, nor did I anoint myself at all, till three whole weeks were fulfilled.
sorry how do you explain this verse?
4 Now on the twenty-fourth day of the first month,
A week is not a week its seven years?
so does a week mean seven days or seven years in this passage?
Matthew 28:1
Now after the Sabbath, as the first day of the week began to dawn, Mary Magdalene and the other Mary came to see the tomb.
oh just saw your post so Daniel did this for 21 years not 21 days then?
Daniel 10:3
I ate no pleasant food, no meat or wine came into my mouth, nor did I anoint myself at all, till three whole weeks were fulfilled.
sorry how do you explain this verse?
4 Now on the twenty-fourth day of the first month,
Last edited:
1
That's what i'm trying to figure out. I mean if we're to take everything literally, then we need to take week as week in daniel 9:24
24Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy.
But he seems to be saying weeks should be translated years. Which would turn it in to..
24Seventy years are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy.
And either way, I know of NO interpretation of end times that has some literal 70 year interpretation of this.
24Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy.
But he seems to be saying weeks should be translated years. Which would turn it in to..
24Seventy years are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy.
And either way, I know of NO interpretation of end times that has some literal 70 year interpretation of this.
A
or this use of weeks?
Deuteronomy 16:8-10
King James Version (KJV)
8Six days thou shalt eat unleavened bread: and on the seventh day shall be a solemn assembly to the LORD thy God: thou shalt do no work therein.
9Seven weeks shalt thou number unto thee: begin to number the seven weeks from such time as thou beginnest to put the sickle to the corn.
10And thou shalt keep the feast of weeks unto the LORD thy God with a tribute of a freewill offering of thine hand, which thou shalt give unto the LORD thy God, according as the LORD thy God hath blessed thee:
does Pentecost or the Feast of weeks factor into your prophecy model?
The Feast of Weeks - Pentecost (Shavuot)
Deuteronomy 16:8-10
King James Version (KJV)
8Six days thou shalt eat unleavened bread: and on the seventh day shall be a solemn assembly to the LORD thy God: thou shalt do no work therein.
9Seven weeks shalt thou number unto thee: begin to number the seven weeks from such time as thou beginnest to put the sickle to the corn.
10And thou shalt keep the feast of weeks unto the LORD thy God with a tribute of a freewill offering of thine hand, which thou shalt give unto the LORD thy God, according as the LORD thy God hath blessed thee:
does Pentecost or the Feast of weeks factor into your prophecy model?
The Feast of Weeks - Pentecost (Shavuot)
R
here is the NIV translation of daniel 9:24...the NIV is actually more literal in this case...
"Seventy 'sevens' are decreed for your people and your holy city to finish transgression, to put an end to sin, to atone for wickedness, to bring in everlasting righteousness, to seal up vision and prophecy and to anoint the most holy."
'sevens' refers to a 'week of years' which was a unit of time in ancient israel...
"Seventy 'sevens' are decreed for your people and your holy city to finish transgression, to put an end to sin, to atone for wickedness, to bring in everlasting righteousness, to seal up vision and prophecy and to anoint the most holy."
'sevens' refers to a 'week of years' which was a unit of time in ancient israel...
P
Daniel 9:24 Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy.
Daniel 9:25 Know therefore and understand, [that] from the going forth of the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem unto the Messiah the Prince [shall be] seven weeks, and threescore and two weeks: the street shall be built again, and the wall, even in troublous times.
seven weeks" is actually 49 years ( 7 X 7=49 ). And the remaining "threescrore and two weeks" actually 434 years ( 62 X 7=434 ). So, the total is now 69 "weeks"/periods of 7 years each ( 69 X 7=483 years).
Then the last week.
27 And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make [it] desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.
That makes 70 weeks
Daniel 9:25 Know therefore and understand, [that] from the going forth of the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem unto the Messiah the Prince [shall be] seven weeks, and threescore and two weeks: the street shall be built again, and the wall, even in troublous times.
seven weeks" is actually 49 years ( 7 X 7=49 ). And the remaining "threescrore and two weeks" actually 434 years ( 62 X 7=434 ). So, the total is now 69 "weeks"/periods of 7 years each ( 69 X 7=483 years).
Then the last week.
27 And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make [it] desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.
That makes 70 weeks
A
did a search and see what you mean...about how "sevens" could be translated as seven years and not just seven days. however it does not always mean seven years in all of the OT, sometimes it means seven days. however the case that Daniel asked about seventy years and the angel answered seventy times seven years makes sense.
Daniel 9
2 in the first year of his reign I, Daniel, understood by the books the number of the years specified by the word of the LORD through Jeremiah the prophet, that He would accomplish seventy years in the desolations of Jerusalem.
Daniel 9:24 "Seventy 'sevens' are decreed for your people and your holy city to finish transgression, to put an end to sin, to atone for wickedness, to bring in everlasting righteousness, to seal up vision and prophecy and to anoint the most holy.
Daniel 9
2 in the first year of his reign I, Daniel, understood by the books the number of the years specified by the word of the LORD through Jeremiah the prophet, that He would accomplish seventy years in the desolations of Jerusalem.
Daniel 9:24 "Seventy 'sevens' are decreed for your people and your holy city to finish transgression, to put an end to sin, to atone for wickedness, to bring in everlasting righteousness, to seal up vision and prophecy and to anoint the most holy.
P
I think I will apologize, I don’t think you are Zone you’re not the same.
So sorry.
But you can call me Wakeup if you like, because I don’t mind what you call me, as long as Jesus calls me at the last day.
PS.
Apparently a day is not a day according to some
And a week is not a week according to some
And a month is not a month according to some.
Is that better
So sorry.
But you can call me Wakeup if you like, because I don’t mind what you call me, as long as Jesus calls me at the last day.
PS.
Apparently a day is not a day according to some
And a week is not a week according to some
And a month is not a month according to some.
Is that better