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Getting to heaven is more than going to church on sundays and reading the word. Its about what you have going on inside and your willingness to work for Jesus. All the work it takes to become heaven bound in afterlife is more than tge average Christian is willing to do.
The labor is much but the workers are few. So knowing people reach out to fellow Christ followers and get scrutenized or attacked for asking for help because Ive done nothing to fall from grace and also done nothing to entertain evil in any way. I dont even watch tv. God has us live in the world but not of it. I live right but was attacked by a worldly couple of people that practice evil.
I worked with many types of people and fence people that arent sure who they want to serve. I help people by dragging people out of Hades by getting people off drugs and help them see them way to Christ. So know my position of fighting evil that an evil person wanted to hinder my spiritualality as much as possible is whos to blame.
The labor is much but the workers are few. So knowing people reach out to fellow Christ followers and get scrutenized or attacked for asking for help because Ive done nothing to fall from grace and also done nothing to entertain evil in any way. I dont even watch tv. God has us live in the world but not of it. I live right but was attacked by a worldly couple of people that practice evil.
I worked with many types of people and fence people that arent sure who they want to serve. I help people by dragging people out of Hades by getting people off drugs and help them see them way to Christ. So know my position of fighting evil that an evil person wanted to hinder my spiritualality as much as possible is whos to blame.
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I see, just because these very wise Christian folks from all walks of life don't coddle your feels and nonbiblical understanding of what it is to be a Christian, and rather give you the truth, you want to be angry. You came for help and didn't like the help you got. Well that's on you not us. There are very spiritually wise people who advised you with excellent advice.
I wish I could point out all the nonsequiturs and dissonance in the above diatribe but I simply don't have time, so I will address the most egregious. You claim to be set free by Jesus Christ yet you also claimed that someone evil spirit has burrowed into your soul. These statements are mutually exclusive.
I wish I could point out all the nonsequiturs and dissonance in the above diatribe but I simply don't have time, so I will address the most egregious. You claim to be set free by Jesus Christ yet you also claimed that someone evil spirit has burrowed into your soul. These statements are mutually exclusive.
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Greetings Newbie welcome... I think you will like it here in the cc... Lots of amazingly honest, and gracious, sometimes outspoken and opinionated - but always loving, caring and giving of advice for those who are seeking prayer, friendship, support or just a break from their daily routine...
I pray that you find what you are looking for...
God Bless
I pray that you find what you are looking for...
God Bless
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Sometimes people judge one another unkindly and Christians also judge unkindly at times as well. I know I have judged people unkindly as well. Everyone sins and falls short of God's glory( see Romans 3:23)
I hope you find the spiritual help you need.
I know there are pastors who do some counseling and there are also professional counselors who may be able to help. There are some Christian counselling services as well such as Liberating Lives and Christian Psychotherapy Services. I see a therapist myself for help with anxiety.
I hope you find the spiritual help you need.
I know there are pastors who do some counseling and there are also professional counselors who may be able to help. There are some Christian counselling services as well such as Liberating Lives and Christian Psychotherapy Services. I see a therapist myself for help with anxiety.
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@Newbie, our works cannot get us into heaven, even the good works we do for Jesus.
Ephesians 2:8-9 ( KJV):
"For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
Not of works, lest any man should boast."
We get to heaven by believing on Jesus and putting our faith in him. When Jesus died on the cross and rose again, he paid the price for our sins.
Romans 10:9-10 ( NIV ) says: "If you declare with your mouth, “Jesus is Lord,” and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved.
For it is with your heart that you believe and are justified, and it is with your mouth that you profess your faith and are saved. "
Ephesians 2:8-9 ( KJV):
"For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
Not of works, lest any man should boast."
We get to heaven by believing on Jesus and putting our faith in him. When Jesus died on the cross and rose again, he paid the price for our sins.
Romans 10:9-10 ( NIV ) says: "If you declare with your mouth, “Jesus is Lord,” and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved.
For it is with your heart that you believe and are justified, and it is with your mouth that you profess your faith and are saved. "
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Not even someone in the world that is an atheist, or a hypocritical Christian, or following a false god would be attacked like this, and atheists do not believe in Satan so they do not worry about it and are not attacked, although they still are sinners that are rebellious like Satan, and many that follow false gods but want good are not even attacked like this.
Satan can only work as much as you allow him to work in your life, and even the world does not get attacked like this if they want good, and nothing to do with Satanism.
Do you follow the new age religion interpretation of the Bible that God warns us not to follow, or are you trying to break from it and are being attacked, or been in to the occult and trying to break away from it.
Even people that broke away from the new age movement, and the occult, are not even attacked.
This one lady was a Satanic witch, and broke away from it, and followed Jesus and she is not even attacked.
And a man that was a Satanic high priest that broke away from it, and followed Jesus and he was not even attacked.
Why, because they did not worry about it and said forget Satan, and followed Jesus, and did not worry about it knowing that Satan did not have any power over them, so Satan could do nothing.
Are you a worry wart and stressed out your mind because of it so you are distraught, because people like this can think some weird things, and think that Satan can actually attack you for he cannot if you stop worrying and realize he has no power over those that oppose him.
The world may be rebellious against the truth but Satan cannot even attack them if they want goodness and say forget the devil although he can tempt them.
They would have to be quite evil for Satan to be able to attack those of the world like a Hitler type, not your average Joe in the world that has some kind of morality about them.
As far as a combination of scriptures you cannot look at it from an occult viewpoint of how they have rituals and practices that they say like chants and spells.
Have faith, confess Christ as Lord and Savior, repent of your sins and turn from them, and allow the Spirit to lead you, and of course scriptures help mainly to act Christlike by the Spirit which is stressed in the Bible, which put on the whole armor of God, and we put on Christ, and the Spirit is our defense from attacks.
Receive the Spirit by the plan of salvation is our defense against Satan and attacks.
It is mainly our behavior, morality, and love that prevents attack, and more so by the Spirit to perfection.
I tend to think that you are too much of a worry wart, and have occult tendencies, for anybody that is on Jesus side would not worry about it knowing the devil cannot attack them, but someone looking at the Bible and Jesus from an occult viewpoint could believe that there could be an attack on them.
But a true follower of Jesus in the right light gives the devil no credit, and know he is nothing, and are not worried, neither afraid.
For love is the fulfilling of God's law, and we are made perfect in love, and there is no fear in love.
2Ti 1:7 For God hath not given us the spirit of fear; but of power, and of love, and of a sound mind.
1Jn 4:17 Herein is our love made perfect, that we may have boldness in the day of judgment: because as he is, so are we in this world.
1Jn 4:18 There is no fear in love; but perfect love casteth out fear: because fear hath torment. He that feareth is not made perfect in love.
Rom 13:14 But put ye on the Lord Jesus Christ, and make not provision for the flesh, to fulfil the lusts thereof.
Gal 3:27 For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ.
Eph 6:10 Finally, my brethren, be strong in the Lord, and in the power of his might.
Eph 6:11 Put on the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil.
Eph 6:12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.
Eph 6:13 Wherefore take unto you the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand.
Eph 6:14 Stand therefore, having your loins girt about with truth, and having on the breastplate of righteousness;
Eph 6:15 And your feet shod with the preparation of the gospel of peace;
Eph 6:16 Above all, taking the shield of faith, wherewith ye shall be able to quench all the fiery darts of the wicked.
Eph 6:17 And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God:
Eph 6:18 Praying always with all prayer and supplication in the Spirit, and watching thereunto with all perseverance and supplication for all saints.
1Pe 5:8 Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour:
1Pe 5:9 Whom resist stedfast in the faith, knowing that the same afflictions are accomplished in your brethren that are in the world.
1Pe 5:10 But the God of all grace, who hath called us unto his eternal glory by Christ Jesus, after that ye have suffered a while, make you perfect, stablish, strengthen, settle you.
1Pe 5:11 To him be glory and dominion for ever and ever. Amen.
Jas 4:7 Submit yourselves therefore to God. Resist the devil, and he will flee from you.
Jas 4:8 Draw nigh to God, and he will draw nigh to you. Cleanse your hands, ye sinners; and purify your hearts, ye double minded.
Jas 4:9 Be afflicted, and mourn, and weep: let your laughter be turned to mourning, and your joy to heaviness.
Jas 4:10 Humble yourselves in the sight of the Lord, and he shall lift you up.
1Jn 4:4 Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them: because greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world.
Being led of the Holy Spirit is the key, and people of the world do not get attacked as you described unless they are terribly evil, but not saying that you are evil.
So what is wrong.
Which I believe you think along the lines of the occult, and even concerning Christianity that way, and have a misunderstanding, and think it is some great battle between God and Satan where Satan has some kind of power that could influence those that follow Jesus, but he does not, and cannot even compare to God which God could reduce Satan to atoms if He wanted to do that, for God can assemble, and disassemble physical matter.
And you worry too much when there is nothing to worry about.
God said people are nothing, and less than nothing compared to His greatness, and that also includes the angels whether fallen or not.
You said you do not practice anything of the occult, which you would not want anything of the occult, but you might and not realize it, for it does not make sense to be attacked unless you are a worry wart, and stressed out, and distraught because of it, or you have occult tendencies and think the devil can attack a Christian, which he cannot.
The devil can tempt a Christian, but not attack them if they have the Spirit.
Someone that says someone is using 7th heaven on them and taking over the speaking in their soul is of the occult right there.
Satan can only work as much as you allow him to work in your life, and even the world does not get attacked like this if they want good, and nothing to do with Satanism.
Do you follow the new age religion interpretation of the Bible that God warns us not to follow, or are you trying to break from it and are being attacked, or been in to the occult and trying to break away from it.
Even people that broke away from the new age movement, and the occult, are not even attacked.
This one lady was a Satanic witch, and broke away from it, and followed Jesus and she is not even attacked.
And a man that was a Satanic high priest that broke away from it, and followed Jesus and he was not even attacked.
Why, because they did not worry about it and said forget Satan, and followed Jesus, and did not worry about it knowing that Satan did not have any power over them, so Satan could do nothing.
Are you a worry wart and stressed out your mind because of it so you are distraught, because people like this can think some weird things, and think that Satan can actually attack you for he cannot if you stop worrying and realize he has no power over those that oppose him.
The world may be rebellious against the truth but Satan cannot even attack them if they want goodness and say forget the devil although he can tempt them.
They would have to be quite evil for Satan to be able to attack those of the world like a Hitler type, not your average Joe in the world that has some kind of morality about them.
As far as a combination of scriptures you cannot look at it from an occult viewpoint of how they have rituals and practices that they say like chants and spells.
Have faith, confess Christ as Lord and Savior, repent of your sins and turn from them, and allow the Spirit to lead you, and of course scriptures help mainly to act Christlike by the Spirit which is stressed in the Bible, which put on the whole armor of God, and we put on Christ, and the Spirit is our defense from attacks.
Receive the Spirit by the plan of salvation is our defense against Satan and attacks.
It is mainly our behavior, morality, and love that prevents attack, and more so by the Spirit to perfection.
I tend to think that you are too much of a worry wart, and have occult tendencies, for anybody that is on Jesus side would not worry about it knowing the devil cannot attack them, but someone looking at the Bible and Jesus from an occult viewpoint could believe that there could be an attack on them.
But a true follower of Jesus in the right light gives the devil no credit, and know he is nothing, and are not worried, neither afraid.
For love is the fulfilling of God's law, and we are made perfect in love, and there is no fear in love.
2Ti 1:7 For God hath not given us the spirit of fear; but of power, and of love, and of a sound mind.
1Jn 4:17 Herein is our love made perfect, that we may have boldness in the day of judgment: because as he is, so are we in this world.
1Jn 4:18 There is no fear in love; but perfect love casteth out fear: because fear hath torment. He that feareth is not made perfect in love.
Rom 13:14 But put ye on the Lord Jesus Christ, and make not provision for the flesh, to fulfil the lusts thereof.
Gal 3:27 For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ.
Eph 6:10 Finally, my brethren, be strong in the Lord, and in the power of his might.
Eph 6:11 Put on the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil.
Eph 6:12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.
Eph 6:13 Wherefore take unto you the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand.
Eph 6:14 Stand therefore, having your loins girt about with truth, and having on the breastplate of righteousness;
Eph 6:15 And your feet shod with the preparation of the gospel of peace;
Eph 6:16 Above all, taking the shield of faith, wherewith ye shall be able to quench all the fiery darts of the wicked.
Eph 6:17 And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God:
Eph 6:18 Praying always with all prayer and supplication in the Spirit, and watching thereunto with all perseverance and supplication for all saints.
1Pe 5:8 Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour:
1Pe 5:9 Whom resist stedfast in the faith, knowing that the same afflictions are accomplished in your brethren that are in the world.
1Pe 5:10 But the God of all grace, who hath called us unto his eternal glory by Christ Jesus, after that ye have suffered a while, make you perfect, stablish, strengthen, settle you.
1Pe 5:11 To him be glory and dominion for ever and ever. Amen.
Jas 4:7 Submit yourselves therefore to God. Resist the devil, and he will flee from you.
Jas 4:8 Draw nigh to God, and he will draw nigh to you. Cleanse your hands, ye sinners; and purify your hearts, ye double minded.
Jas 4:9 Be afflicted, and mourn, and weep: let your laughter be turned to mourning, and your joy to heaviness.
Jas 4:10 Humble yourselves in the sight of the Lord, and he shall lift you up.
1Jn 4:4 Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them: because greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world.
Being led of the Holy Spirit is the key, and people of the world do not get attacked as you described unless they are terribly evil, but not saying that you are evil.
So what is wrong.
Which I believe you think along the lines of the occult, and even concerning Christianity that way, and have a misunderstanding, and think it is some great battle between God and Satan where Satan has some kind of power that could influence those that follow Jesus, but he does not, and cannot even compare to God which God could reduce Satan to atoms if He wanted to do that, for God can assemble, and disassemble physical matter.
And you worry too much when there is nothing to worry about.
God said people are nothing, and less than nothing compared to His greatness, and that also includes the angels whether fallen or not.
You said you do not practice anything of the occult, which you would not want anything of the occult, but you might and not realize it, for it does not make sense to be attacked unless you are a worry wart, and stressed out, and distraught because of it, or you have occult tendencies and think the devil can attack a Christian, which he cannot.
The devil can tempt a Christian, but not attack them if they have the Spirit.
Someone that says someone is using 7th heaven on them and taking over the speaking in their soul is of the occult right there.
One point here. When you said, " God said people are nothing, and less than nothing compared to His greatness, and that also includes the angels whether fallen or not."
That wasn't God that said that. It was Isaiah in the Book of Isaiah chapter 40, making the observation about God's greatness.
In matters of "7th heaven", perhaps you might find this useful in going forward in this thread.
Search engine criteria, using 7th heaven attack.
That wasn't God that said that. It was Isaiah in the Book of Isaiah chapter 40, making the observation about God's greatness.
In matters of "7th heaven", perhaps you might find this useful in going forward in this thread.
Search engine criteria, using 7th heaven attack.
I'm not angry I'm clearing contravercy this is where reading something and reading it in a defensive way comes into play. I said there a few gave me answers and a few were insinuating as if its my fault I was attacked spiritually.
It's like I'm explaining what I'm experiencing and ive said 10 times I dont play with anything demonic and I'm not mentally ill, I dont hear it in my ears its in my chest which is where my soul is located.
I apologize if I offended you for the fact of defending I'm not on drugs and never used enough drugs to be mentally unsound. Im not a baby Christian I'm just new to this chat and knowing people were acting as if there is something wrong with me because I experienced something they arent understanding doesn't mean there is a underlining issue. Ive been seen by psychologist and know I'm not mentally ill.
It's like I'm explaining what I'm experiencing and ive said 10 times I dont play with anything demonic and I'm not mentally ill, I dont hear it in my ears its in my chest which is where my soul is located.
I apologize if I offended you for the fact of defending I'm not on drugs and never used enough drugs to be mentally unsound. Im not a baby Christian I'm just new to this chat and knowing people were acting as if there is something wrong with me because I experienced something they arent understanding doesn't mean there is a underlining issue. Ive been seen by psychologist and know I'm not mentally ill.
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The point I'm getting at is that some helped me without judging that it has to be something wrong with me.
There werr some that were kind enough to locate scripture to help me correct the issue and I did clear my home of items that were demonized by someone touching them and cursing it. Im out of anointing oil because my son spilled it.
Basically I was insulted by a few people as if I'm crazy or having delusions.
I appreciate the ones that were willing to help by giving guidence of replacement scriptures to fix and correct what this person has done to me.
Im aware of who is doing this to me and that they are Satanist that came into my home while I was gone and cursed things in my home and werr attacking my soul by stealing spiritual gifts from me and spiritual fruit.
I also found a strange coin on that was under a mattress I was sleeping on. The coin was depicted and being unaware of what it was I picked it up.
There werr some that were kind enough to locate scripture to help me correct the issue and I did clear my home of items that were demonized by someone touching them and cursing it. Im out of anointing oil because my son spilled it.
Basically I was insulted by a few people as if I'm crazy or having delusions.
I appreciate the ones that were willing to help by giving guidence of replacement scriptures to fix and correct what this person has done to me.
Im aware of who is doing this to me and that they are Satanist that came into my home while I was gone and cursed things in my home and werr attacking my soul by stealing spiritual gifts from me and spiritual fruit.
I also found a strange coin on that was under a mattress I was sleeping on. The coin was depicted and being unaware of what it was I picked it up.
