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And what does Romans 10:9 say about that?
If you declare with your mouth, "Jesus is Lord," and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved.
But that's ok, I know your mind is made up and no amount of scripture will be accepted to the contrary. So I'm going to call our exchange over with an agreement to disagree.
If you declare with your mouth, "Jesus is Lord," and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved.
But that's ok, I know your mind is made up and no amount of scripture will be accepted to the contrary. So I'm going to call our exchange over with an agreement to disagree.
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i go by what the word says also
a person who has legitimate t faith will have works (not must)
if they have no works, their faith is dead, and they were never saved (as john sad, whoever sins has never seen god and r known him,)
however saying work maintain our salvation is preaching a gospel of works
works do not maintain salvation, they are a natural byproduct of a truely save life. (Because the person had genuine faith, and not dead faith)
a person who has legitimate t faith will have works (not must)
if they have no works, their faith is dead, and they were never saved (as john sad, whoever sins has never seen god and r known him,)
however saying work maintain our salvation is preaching a gospel of works
works do not maintain salvation, they are a natural byproduct of a truely save life. (Because the person had genuine faith, and not dead faith)
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Who assumes me they know what happens to a so called apostate person? I would never assume anything, we can discuss possibilities, but t assume,
and remember, I gave to possible examples of this very thing yesterday and was attacked by a member of judging a person when I did not do so, so we have to be careful
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You quoted Philippians 1:6 - "And I am sure of this, that he who began a good work in you will bring it to completion at the day of Jesus Christ."
But you should also quote one verse earlier: "because of your partnership in the gospel from the first day until now."
Paul, based on their faithfulness from the first day until the day he wrote the epistle, was simply expressing confidence that God will complete it as they stay faithful.
Do you always interpret a verse that says something "will" happen as meaning that it could never change if conditions changed?
But you should also quote one verse earlier: "because of your partnership in the gospel from the first day until now."
Paul, based on their faithfulness from the first day until the day he wrote the epistle, was simply expressing confidence that God will complete it as they stay faithful.
Do you always interpret a verse that says something "will" happen as meaning that it could never change if conditions changed?
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1. Paul said he was thankful of the church being faithful from the first day until now,
2. He then said they should be confident hat the work God started, he will complete until the day of Christ, if there was any way god would not complete it, Paul would have told them he did not, so please just take Paul at his word, If you do not want to, that's fine, I however will.
Paul said he will complete it, and we should be assured of it,
Paul also so said he perfected forever those being sanctified, did Paul mess up? Does Facebook refer not mean forever?
john also told us we can KNOW we have eternal life. Did john mean it, or was he talking about conditional life?
paul also said we were sealed by the spirit until the day of redemption.
do you believe them? Or do you just take these promises as spiritual symbolic words, not literal truth?
2. He then said they should be confident hat the work God started, he will complete until the day of Christ, if there was any way god would not complete it, Paul would have told them he did not, so please just take Paul at his word, If you do not want to, that's fine, I however will.
Paul said he will complete it, and we should be assured of it,
Paul also so said he perfected forever those being sanctified, did Paul mess up? Does Facebook refer not mean forever?
john also told us we can KNOW we have eternal life. Did john mean it, or was he talking about conditional life?
paul also said we were sealed by the spirit until the day of redemption.
do you believe them? Or do you just take these promises as spiritual symbolic words, not literal truth?