Lost Gospel of Evangelicalism

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ForestGreenCook

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eternally-gratefull said:
my Church had a strictly evangelical pastor once, I had just gotten out of the military. And was looking forward to getting back with my church, one thing I noticed is all the people there I knew had been there for well over 10 years. Yet all I heard was the gospel being preached, no new people, the people there should be well versed in the gospel. Yet that is all we heard.

sadly I could not join the church, it was a dead church, the church should be feeding the flock as it’s mission, the member should be out evangelizing, and if we got some new members, what most churches I have been to did was give classes. So they would have a better understanding of what they have done.

evangelism has its place.

as for on tv. I would not go to listen to DR jeremiah if all he did was the gospel. I go to be fed, as does his church members. the body of christ should be involved in a local church anyway, that is what it is for,

one of Billy Graham’s regrets is that all these people he led to Christ were never introduced to churches, yes they got saved, then were sent back in the world which hated them with no help.

be careful what you wish for
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Mostly a pastor's obligation is to preach how God wants his children to live their lives here on earth, but an occasional refreshing of memory of how God quickened us to a new spiritual life can be uplifting.
 
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eternally-gratefull

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ForestGreenCook said:
Mostly a pastor's obligation is to preach how God wants his children to live their lives here on earth, but an occasional refreshing of memory of how God quickened us to a new spiritual life can be uplifting.
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I like it better when we go through the Bible, the plan of salvation will come up many times as we walk through Gods word,
 
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eternally-gratefull

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ForestGreenCook said:
A scripture to go with your statement would be nice.
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What do you think the Bible is all about? start at Gen 3: 15, then look at the law. Then the cross. It was all Gods plan
 
Corban

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ForestGreenCook said:
You are making the natural man, as described in 1 Cor 2:14, able to believe in the things of the Spirit, which plainly states that he "cannot".

Romans 10 like most all of the scriptures is written to and about God's regenerated children instructing them on how he wants them to live their lives here in earth.

John 16:8, Jesus is telling regenerated children of God, that he will sent them the comforter, which John 14:26 says is a function of the Holy Ghost.

The Holy Spirit functions as a quickening Spirit, and the Holy Ghost, which is the Holy Spirit, but functioning as a revelator.

The Holy Spirit as a quickening Spirit that indwells a person in the new spiritual birth, the same in the old testament as in the new testament, Isaiah 63:11, Then he remembered the days of old, Moses, and his people, saying, Where is he that brought them up out of the sea with the shepherd of his flock? Where is he that put his Holy Spirit within him.

Rom 10, The Israel in verse 1 is not the nation of Israel, because all Israel is not of Israel, Rom 9:6, but is the Israel that Jacob's name was changed to by god, and Jacob/Israel is representative of God's elect, Rom 9:11.

Verse 2-3, The fact that they had a zeal of God indicates that they are regenerate children of God, but needed to be saved=delivered from their ignorance of God's righteousness so that they would not go about trying to establish their own righteousness, by their good works, and submit themselves unto the righteousness of God.

Confessing and believing are products of already having been born with the indwelling of the quickening Holy Spirit.

When the unregenerate natural man has been quickened, God exchanges his heart from a heart of stone and gives him a fleshy heart whose conscience can be pricked to feel guilt. This is confirmed in Acts 2, when Peter is accusing some regenerated children God of being responsible for having crucified Christ, and when they heard this they were "pricked" in their heart. saying what shall we do. in contrast, the people that stoned Stephen to death for preaching the same sermon, were "cut" to their heart of stone. Notice the difference of the response of the two hearts.

Peter's reply to their question was to repent and be baptized "for" (because off) the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the "gift" (revelation) of the Holy Ghost (a function of the Holy Spirit).
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One thing I've learned over the years on various Forums is that men and women who are loose with God's Word are also loose with men's words. You provide a classic example. Your very first, and introductory sentence, accuses me of making out that the natural man can believe. But here is what I actually wrote;

Corban, third paragraph, 1st sentence: "The Holy Spirit convicts, and gives faith".

Since your premise is built on a falsehood, the rest of your posting is moot. It contains errors, which, if they were the subject of the thread, I would answer, but why derail a good thread for and answer that presumes a falsehood that is not there, and then answers it for nothing.

Nevertheless, go well brother.
 
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presidente

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Funkus said:
Indeed, those who condemned Christ were males exclusively so before bringing forward any argument against women that fact should be considered, for it is incumbent on a Christian to make certain that had they lived in those days they would have been one of those supporting Jesus and not condemning him. If one is not sure, then that is the area in you that needs work. For most that have this view of women it is really something else that motivates them and not women at all that is the problem. If men are so great at being the discerners of truth then why did men kill Jesus? Maybe it is because he chose the least things of this world to shame the wise in their estimation.
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Pilate's wife tried to get him to have nothing to do with the just man Jesus. The leaders of both groups--Jews and Romans-- were probably male. The New Testament does not make the point that the Sanhedrin was all male. But why would it be reasonable to assume that the crowd that said 'Let his blood be on us and on our children's was all male'?
 
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