Lost people after the Tribulation
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Does anyone know of a Scripture where everyone lost will be dead? These people obviously come from somewhere. As someone mentioned maybe they are the children of the Tribulation. Who does God spare in the Tribulation? In my original post you can read the Scripture for yourself. Even after the Tribluation there are still living sinners who are decieved by Satan to do war on the saints. My only guess is that since they are not Christians and they are not dead, is that God allows sinful mankind to survive the Tribulation.
i know what you are saying here but it would make much more sense if the thousand years are fulfilled already and satan is set loose to deceive the nations at this very moment because its the fire coming down from heaven is what will end the tribulation (2nd coming of Christ) [parable of the tears been thrown in fire].. 500-1500 maybe?
Then after this Revelation 21 follows (new heaven and new earth)
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God has a few names for the beloved city on earth during the millenium.
Isaiah 57:13 When thou criest, let thy companies deliver thee; but the wind shall carry them all away; vanity shall take them: but he that putteth his trust in me shall possess the land, and shall inherit my holy mountain;
Psalms 48:1 Great is the LORD, and greatly to be praised in the city of our God, in the mountain of his holiness.
Psalms 48:2 Beautiful for situation, the joy of the whole earth, is mount Zion, on the sides of the north, the city of the great King.
Psalms 48:8 As we have heard, so have we seen in the city of the LORD of hosts, in the city of our God: God will establish it for ever. Selah.
Isaiah 65:9 And I will bring forth a seed out of Jacob, and out of Judah an inheritor of my mountains: and mine elect shall inherit it, and my servants shall dwell there.
Isaiah 65;25 The wolf and the lamb shall feed together, and the lion shall eat straw like the bullock: and dust shall be the serpent's meat. They shall not hurt nor destroy in all my holy mountain, saith the LORD.
Daniel 7:18 But the saints of the most High shall take the kingdom, and possess the kingdom for ever, even for ever and ever.
Daniel 7:22 Until the Ancient of days came, and judgment was given to the saints of the most High; and the time came that the saints possessed the kingdom.
Matthew 6:10Thy kingdom come. Thy will be done in earth, as it is in heaven.
Hebrews 13:14For here have we no continuing city, but we seek one to come.
The above is referring to the 1000 year kingdom (the holy camp) and is called different names at times. Holy Mountain, Mountain of the Lord, Kingdom. City of our God. This City will be the capital of the nations. This city is holy. But is not the New Jerusalem yet.
This city has flesh and blood living in there with Christ and the Saints. The truth will flow out of this city to all the nations of the world.
The New Jerusalem has God coming down, and Jesus presents his bride to his Father.
Isaiah 57:13 When thou criest, let thy companies deliver thee; but the wind shall carry them all away; vanity shall take them: but he that putteth his trust in me shall possess the land, and shall inherit my holy mountain;
Psalms 48:1 Great is the LORD, and greatly to be praised in the city of our God, in the mountain of his holiness.
Psalms 48:2 Beautiful for situation, the joy of the whole earth, is mount Zion, on the sides of the north, the city of the great King.
Psalms 48:8 As we have heard, so have we seen in the city of the LORD of hosts, in the city of our God: God will establish it for ever. Selah.
Isaiah 65:9 And I will bring forth a seed out of Jacob, and out of Judah an inheritor of my mountains: and mine elect shall inherit it, and my servants shall dwell there.
Isaiah 65;25 The wolf and the lamb shall feed together, and the lion shall eat straw like the bullock: and dust shall be the serpent's meat. They shall not hurt nor destroy in all my holy mountain, saith the LORD.
Daniel 7:18 But the saints of the most High shall take the kingdom, and possess the kingdom for ever, even for ever and ever.
Daniel 7:22 Until the Ancient of days came, and judgment was given to the saints of the most High; and the time came that the saints possessed the kingdom.
Matthew 6:10Thy kingdom come. Thy will be done in earth, as it is in heaven.
Hebrews 13:14For here have we no continuing city, but we seek one to come.
The above is referring to the 1000 year kingdom (the holy camp) and is called different names at times. Holy Mountain, Mountain of the Lord, Kingdom. City of our God. This City will be the capital of the nations. This city is holy. But is not the New Jerusalem yet.
This city has flesh and blood living in there with Christ and the Saints. The truth will flow out of this city to all the nations of the world.
The New Jerusalem has God coming down, and Jesus presents his bride to his Father.
22. Despite the dispensationalists’ claim to be following “the principle of grammatical-historical interpretation” (Charles Ryrie), they have redefined the method in a way that is rejected by the majority of non-dispensational evangelicals (and even “progressive dispensationalists”) who see that the Bible, while true in all its parts, often speaks in figures and types—e.g., most evangelicals interpret the prophecy in Isaiah and Micah of “the mountain of the house of the Lord being established as the chief of the mountains” (Isa 2:2b, Mic. 4:1b) to refer to the exaltation of God’s people; whereas dispensationalism claims this text is referring to actual geological, tectonic, and volcanic mountain-building whereby “the Temple mount would be lifted up and exalted over all the other mountains” (John Sailhammer) during the millennium
http://againstdispensationalism.com/95-theses/
http://againstdispensationalism.com/95-theses/
Revelation 13:8
All inhabitants of the earth will worship the beast--all whose names have not been written in the book of life belonging to the Lamb that was slain from the creation of the world.
do people take the mark/worship the beast before the Second Advent - then go into the millennium for 1,000 years to be ruled over by glorified saints and Glorified Christ only to be thrown in the lake at the end (because they worshipped the beast and had the mark)?
that sounds productive.
nobody survives who takes the mark.
all unbelievers take the mark.
Revelation 14
9A third angel followed them and said in a loud voice: “If anyone worships the beast and his image and receives his mark on the forehead or on the hand, 10he, too, will drink of the wine of God’s fury, which has been poured full strength into the cup of his wrath. He will be tormented with burning sulfur in the presence of the holy angels and of the Lamb. 11And the smoke of their torment rises for ever and ever. There is no rest day or night for those who worship the beast and his image, or for anyone who receives the mark of his name.” 12This calls for patient endurance on the part of the saints who obey God’s commandments and remain faithful to Jesus.
has Jesus returned yet by this verse?
12 This calls for patient endurance on the part of the saints who obey God’s commandments and remain faithful to Jesus.
All inhabitants of the earth will worship the beast--all whose names have not been written in the book of life belonging to the Lamb that was slain from the creation of the world.
do people take the mark/worship the beast before the Second Advent - then go into the millennium for 1,000 years to be ruled over by glorified saints and Glorified Christ only to be thrown in the lake at the end (because they worshipped the beast and had the mark)?
that sounds productive.
nobody survives who takes the mark.
all unbelievers take the mark.
Revelation 14
9A third angel followed them and said in a loud voice: “If anyone worships the beast and his image and receives his mark on the forehead or on the hand, 10he, too, will drink of the wine of God’s fury, which has been poured full strength into the cup of his wrath. He will be tormented with burning sulfur in the presence of the holy angels and of the Lamb. 11And the smoke of their torment rises for ever and ever. There is no rest day or night for those who worship the beast and his image, or for anyone who receives the mark of his name.” 12This calls for patient endurance on the part of the saints who obey God’s commandments and remain faithful to Jesus.
has Jesus returned yet by this verse?
12 This calls for patient endurance on the part of the saints who obey God’s commandments and remain faithful to Jesus.
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Rv22:2 In the midst of the street of it, and on either side of the river, [was there] the tree of life, which bare twelve [manner of] fruits, [and] yielded her fruit every month: and the leaves of the tree [were] for the healing of the nations.
healing of the nations. There is no more sickness for us
Rv214 And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away.
There will be rebels sinners that don’t take the mark
Hebrews3:16-: howbeit not all that came out of Egypt by Moses.
healing of the nations. There is no more sickness for us
Rv214 And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away.
There will be rebels sinners that don’t take the mark
Hebrews3:16-: howbeit not all that came out of Egypt by Moses.
Unless people start living a thousand years in the flesh, I do not think the people who rebel at the end of the thousand year reign of Christ will be out of the Tribulation. They will obviously be the posterity of those who survive the Tribulation. Which I would guess would be the children, who probably will not be required to take the mark of the Beast because they are not old enough to buy or sell.
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Rv2:26 And he that overcometh, and keepeth my works unto the end, to him will I give power over the nations:
27 And he shall rule them with a rod of iron; as the vessels of a potter shall they be broken to shivers: even as I received of my Father.
2 Timothy 2:12 If we suffer, we shall also reign with [him]: if we deny [him], he also will deny us:
Rule and reign over whom?
Over each other with a rod of iron?
I don’t think so
27 And he shall rule them with a rod of iron; as the vessels of a potter shall they be broken to shivers: even as I received of my Father.
2 Timothy 2:12 If we suffer, we shall also reign with [him]: if we deny [him], he also will deny us:
Rule and reign over whom?
Over each other with a rod of iron?
I don’t think so
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I think it must be people unsaved that rebel agents the AC and don’t take the mark and not the children because
16 And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:
Unless it’s the children of the unsaved that are born in the hills away from the AC and mark of the beast.
But that does not make much sense because He/We will rule them with a rod of iron, what do 3/12 year old children need to be ruled over with a rod of iron for?
16 And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:
Unless it’s the children of the unsaved that are born in the hills away from the AC and mark of the beast.
But that does not make much sense because He/We will rule them with a rod of iron, what do 3/12 year old children need to be ruled over with a rod of iron for?
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I think maybe it is all spiritual. I'm sealed by God right now! I'm currently reading Revelations thru again. I gave up on Larkins & Scofield 20 years ago. I was taught that as truth. Ever had a terrifying moment as a child, cuz you can't find your folks, or none of your sibblings. You just know you missed the rapture, cuz of that cookie you took without permission. God Bless us all in our quest for Truth! Mark!
This has nothing to do with the New Jerusalem and does not even hint at it,which the the New Jerusalem is a place where sin has never been and sin will never be,and the good angels and the saints will never even know about rebellion against God again,and the old heavens and old earth will be pass away because the are tainted with sin,and there will be a new heaven and new earth where sin will never be.
The battle in those scriptures happens at the end of the millennial reign of Christ,so that battle happens during the millennial reign of Christ,which describes them as Gog and Magog,the same as the battle of armageddon prior to the millennial reign of Christ,that they are Gog and Magog.
The truth is that people can repent of their sins until they take the mark of the beast.When they take the mark of the beast they cannot repent of their sins and God will take His children home.
That means all the Gentiles that are left on earth after the resurrection of the saints have taken the mark of the beast and cannot be saved.
The world,the Gentile nations,will attack Israel,known as the battle of armageddon,which the Gentiles are known as Gog and Magog,and Jesus will fight the world and defeat the world and save Israel.
God will spare one sixth of the world that fought against Israel and those are the people who Jesus and the saints will rule over in the millennial reign.
These people who Jesus and the saints rule over are in the flesh and have taken the mark of the beast so they can never have salvation,but God spared them so Jesus and the saints can rule over them.
Since these people can never have salvation for they took the mark,God will eventually have to judge them,and they cannot be with God,but God has allowed them mercy during the millennial reign of Christ.
These people are in the flesh and took the mark,but things are peaceful for Satan is bound and put in the bottomless pit,so they are not stirred up to fight against Jesus and the saints,which they would be stirred up if Satan was not bound for they are in the flesh and took the mark.
Satan will be loosed from the bottomless pit to stir them up to go against Jesus and the saints,which they are easily stirred up for they are in the flesh and took the mark,which is the purpose of God to allow Satan to stir them up,for it is God's time to judge them and take His mercy from them that they received during the millennial reign,because they still have to be judged for taking the mark and fighting against Israel,which when they attack Jesus and the saints,God devours them with fire.
The millennial reign will end after they attack Jesus and the saints and are punished,and Satan will then be judged.They are known as Gog and Magog before the millennial reign of Christ,at the battle of armageddon,and known as Gog and Magog during the battle at the end of the millennial reign,for they are the same people stirred up by Satan to fight both battles.
Those scriptures are not referring to the New Jerusalem but to the battle at the end of the millennial reign of Christ.There are no sinners in the New Jerusalem and the millennial reign of Christ is not the New Jerusalem.
The battle in those scriptures happens at the end of the millennial reign of Christ,so that battle happens during the millennial reign of Christ,which describes them as Gog and Magog,the same as the battle of armageddon prior to the millennial reign of Christ,that they are Gog and Magog.
The truth is that people can repent of their sins until they take the mark of the beast.When they take the mark of the beast they cannot repent of their sins and God will take His children home.
That means all the Gentiles that are left on earth after the resurrection of the saints have taken the mark of the beast and cannot be saved.
The world,the Gentile nations,will attack Israel,known as the battle of armageddon,which the Gentiles are known as Gog and Magog,and Jesus will fight the world and defeat the world and save Israel.
God will spare one sixth of the world that fought against Israel and those are the people who Jesus and the saints will rule over in the millennial reign.
These people who Jesus and the saints rule over are in the flesh and have taken the mark of the beast so they can never have salvation,but God spared them so Jesus and the saints can rule over them.
Since these people can never have salvation for they took the mark,God will eventually have to judge them,and they cannot be with God,but God has allowed them mercy during the millennial reign of Christ.
These people are in the flesh and took the mark,but things are peaceful for Satan is bound and put in the bottomless pit,so they are not stirred up to fight against Jesus and the saints,which they would be stirred up if Satan was not bound for they are in the flesh and took the mark.
Satan will be loosed from the bottomless pit to stir them up to go against Jesus and the saints,which they are easily stirred up for they are in the flesh and took the mark,which is the purpose of God to allow Satan to stir them up,for it is God's time to judge them and take His mercy from them that they received during the millennial reign,because they still have to be judged for taking the mark and fighting against Israel,which when they attack Jesus and the saints,God devours them with fire.
The millennial reign will end after they attack Jesus and the saints and are punished,and Satan will then be judged.They are known as Gog and Magog before the millennial reign of Christ,at the battle of armageddon,and known as Gog and Magog during the battle at the end of the millennial reign,for they are the same people stirred up by Satan to fight both battles.
Those scriptures are not referring to the New Jerusalem but to the battle at the end of the millennial reign of Christ.There are no sinners in the New Jerusalem and the millennial reign of Christ is not the New Jerusalem.
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