Melchisidek Is The King of Righteousness

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JaumeJ

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Jer 23:6 In his days Judah shall be saved, and Israel shall dwell safely: and this is his name whereby he shall be called, THE LORD OUR RIGHTEOUSNESS.

Who is the King of Righteousness? No more need dto figure it out, for it has been written since Jeremiah, actually, since Genesis when giving credit to what is taught there.
 

p_rehbein

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There are those who say that Melchizedek was Jesus. I disagree. He was a very special person for sure, but he was not Jesus. God the Son did not become flesh until He took upon Himself the form of man as Scripture tells us. Otherwise, Scripture would contradict itself, and not be truth. IMO....
 

JaumeJ

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Melchisidech translates fully as King of Righteousness. He was the King of Salem, fully translates as King of Peace. He was the High Priest sent to Abraham.

Our High Priest and Mediator is Jesus Yeshua. He is also the Ruler of Peace, and none other is our Righteousness than He. Perhaps I am wrong, but I will be satisfied resting upon this understanding until taught otherwise .

I am in no position to fault anyone for not believing this, not my authority at all.
 

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Melchisidech translates fully as King of Righteousness. He was the King of Salem, fully translates as King of Peace. He was the High Priest sent to Abraham.

Our High Priest and Mediator is Jesus Yeshua. He is also the Ruler of Peace, and none other is our Righteousness than He. Perhaps I am wrong, but I will be satisfied resting upon this understanding until taught otherwise .

I am in no position to fault anyone for not believing this, not my authority at all.
Melchisidech translates fully as King of Righteousness. He was the King of Salem, fully translates as King of Peace. He was the High Priest sent to Abraham.

Our High Priest and Mediator is Jesus Yeshua. He is also the Ruler of Peace, and none other is our Righteousness than He. Perhaps I am wrong, but I will be satisfied resting upon this understanding until taught otherwise .

I am in no position to fault anyone for not believing this, not my authority at all.
Most likely Melchisedek was a type. In Hebrews 5 we see the phrase "in the order of." Jesus is said to be in the order' of Melchizedek, means a priest of the same order, rank and quality as Melchizedek.

Psalms 110:1-4, Verse 1, "The LORD (the Father) said unto my Lord (Jesus)," Verse 4, Thou art a priest for ever after (or according to) the order of Melchizedek."

After the resurrection, Jesus appeared before the Father and was given this title and the authority of High Priest who is to bring his bride before the throne of his Father (the heavenly Holy of Holies). Already having accepted his blood as the only redeeming sacrifice and offering, Jesus' blood was sprinkled on the altar in heaven and received of God.

I hope I said this right, getting tired.
 

Cameron143

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Most likely Melchisedek was a type. In Hebrews 5 we see the phrase "in the order of." Jesus is said to be in the order' of Melchizedek, means a priest of the same order, rank and quality as Melchizedek.

Psalms 110:1-4, Verse 1, "The LORD (the Father) said unto my Lord (Jesus)," Verse 4, Thou art a priest for ever after (or according to) the order of Melchizedek."

After the resurrection, Jesus appeared before the Father and was given this title and the authority of High Priest who is to bring his bride before the throne of his Father (the heavenly Holy of Holies). Already having accepted his blood as the only redeeming sacrifice and offering, Jesus' blood was sprinkled on the altar in heaven and received of God.

I hope I said this right, getting tired.
He was a type. He represented a different priesthood than the Aaronic priesthood. We have no genealogy for him figuring the eternal nature of the priesthood. He was also a king figuring the ruling nature associated with this priesthood. He is characterized by peace and righteousness figuring the nature of the priesthood. And all this in totality figures the superiority of this priesthood.
 

Aaron56

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The reason you don’t hug the queen is because she represents the entire state. To treat the queen with such an aire of familiarity is to disrespect the whole nation under her rule.

Melchizedek was such a person. First, Melchizedek is a title. Hebrews clarifies this. Secondly, while he represented an entire priesthood he was not the entire priesthood. He was a type of Who would come after him. For a physical man to appear as the King of Righteousness and Peace, the covenant that secured that appearance must first be witnessed BY men. Of course, the Lamb was slain from the foundation of the world, but the reality of that sacrifice had to be seen in the natural before the covenant to be ratified. This is why Abraham could not obtain the object of the promises made to him and could only rejoice to see the arrival of the Lord in the future.

The main characteristic of the priesthood of Melchizedek is that they represent God to the people. This is the diametric opposite of the Mosaic priesthood: they could only represent the people before God. Until Christ gave Himself up for men, no one could rightfully declare they represent the Lord to the people. Now, those who are in Him may truthfully and fully represent Him in the capacity in which they are sent.
 

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Jer 23:6 In his days Judah shall be saved, and Israel shall dwell safely: and this is his name whereby he shall be called, THE LORD OUR RIGHTEOUSNESS.

Who is the King of Righteousness? No more need dto figure it out, for it has been written since Jeremiah, actually, since Genesis when giving credit to what is taught there.
I can most definitely confirm Melchizedek translates.to Christ 😊
 

Thunderrr-mental

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There are those who say that Melchizedek was Jesus. I disagree. He was a very special person for sure, but he was not Jesus. God the Son did not become flesh until He took upon Himself the form of man as Scripture tells us. Otherwise, Scripture would contradict itself, and not be truth. IMO....
did you know even the Muslims know Melchizedek translates to Christ,
 

JaumeJ

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Most likely Melchisedek was a type. In Hebrews 5 we see the phrase "in the order of." Jesus is said to be in the order' of Melchizedek, means a priest of the same order, rank and quality as Melchizedek.

Psalms 110:1-4, Verse 1, "The LORD (the Father) said unto my Lord (Jesus)," Verse 4, Thou art a priest for ever after (or according to) the order of Melchizedek."

After the resurrection, Jesus appeared before the Father and was given this title and the authority of High Priest who is to bring his bride before the throne of his Father (the heavenly Holy of Holies). Already having accepted his blood as the only redeeming sacrifice and offering, Jesus' blood was sprinkled on the altar in heaven and received of God.

I hope I said this right, getting tired.
I cannot even begin to think in terms of our Glorified Savior, Jesus Yeshua, as ever having been under another other than while He was yet in the flesh in full obedience to the Father.

This is a mystery to all without faith, but understood by faith by all who believe, the Child born to the Virgin is to be called Everlasting Father, Ruler of Peace, Counselor, Comforter, Almighty God. I will never claim to understand this fully,but the gift of faith commands me to believe He is all of these.

Being less than Melchisidech is not possible, for He is the King of Righteousness; Jesus Yeshua that is.
 

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There are those who say that Melchizedek was Jesus. I disagree. He was a very special person for sure, but he was not Jesus. God the Son did not become flesh until He took upon Himself the form of man as Scripture tells us. Otherwise, Scripture would contradict itself, and not be truth. IMO....
God became man and that man was Jesus Christ.

The Incarnation was permanent, Jesus was fully man and could die just as we do.

A theophany, on the other hand, is a temporary manifestation of Jesus in another form. For example as the Angel of the Lord.

Here is an account below where Jacob wrestles with God.

Genesis 32:24
Then Jacob was left alone, and a man wrestled with him until daybreak. 25 When the man saw that he had not prevailed against him, he touched the socket of Jacob’s hip; and the socket of Jacob’s hip was dislocated while he wrestled with him. 26 Then he said, “Let me go, for the dawn is breaking.” But he said, “I will not let you go unless you bless me.” 27 So he said to him, “What is your name?” And he said, “Jacob.” 28 Then he said, “Your name shall no longer be Jacob, but Israel; for you have contended with God and with men, and have prevailed.” 29 And Jacob asked him and said, “Please tell me your name.” But he said, “Why is it that you ask my name?” And he blessed him there. 30 So Jacob named the place Peniel, for he said, “I have seen God face to face, yet my life has been spared.”

The man's name would not be revealed to Jacob. Which is interesting, the time had not yet arrived for that revelation.
 

Thunderrr-mental

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So, to bolster your assertion, you cite Islamic doctrine?
no I just make it understood that if a Muslim can recognise melchisadeck translates to Christ, then us Christians really need to also 😊.

I mean the Muslims knowing more than Christians is outstanding
 

p_rehbein

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(excerpt)

We also have no idea about Melchizedek’s lineage (Hebrews 7). The Bible makes no mention of whose family he belongs, only because he appears for a few verses. Some rabbinic teachings say Melchizedek was Noah’s son Shem. Others have said Melchizedek appeared to Abram in a Christophany, or as the Son of God mentioned throughout the Old and New Testament.
Although scholars have highly debated his true personhood, most, like Matthew Henry in his commentary, have concluded that he was, in fact, a man and not the Son of God.



What Does the Name "Melchizedek" Mean?
Melchizedek, or in some translations Malki-Tzedek, literally means “my king.” Because the tzedek means “righteous” or “just,” many scholars have wrongly translated his name to mean just king or righteous king, writes John J. Parsons. Salem also derives from the term Shalom, which means peace. Perhaps his name had also meant King of Peace. Hebrews 7 confirms both of these names.


(here)

Who Was Melchizedek? His Story and Importance to Jesus

(excerpt)

Melchizedek was a type of Christ, who comforts and refreshes his hungry and weary people with himself, the bread of life, and with the wine of his love, as well as his name and title agree with him, who is a righteous King and Prince of Peace, Jeremiah 23:5,
and he was the priest of the most high God; a priest as well as a king, as in many countries princes were both (p); and in this he was a type of Christ in his kingly and priestly offices, who is a priest upon the throne, both king and priest, Zechariah 6:13. Melchizedek was a priest not of any of the Phoenician deities, but of the true and living God, who is above all gods, dwells in the highest heaven, and is the most High over all the earth; by him was he called to this office and invested with it, and he ministered to him in it.

(here)

Gill's Exposition of the Entire Bible


IMO, Melchizedek was like John the Baptist, A very special person in Scripture, and a forerunner of Jesus Himself. But, he was a man, and not God the Son.
 

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There are those who say that Melchizedek was Jesus. I disagree. He was a very special person for sure, but he was not Jesus. God the Son did not become flesh until He took upon Himself the form of man as Scripture tells us. Otherwise, Scripture would contradict itself, and not be truth. IMO....
Amen Hebrews says melchezidek was like Jesus and Jesus is of his order clearly telling us he isn’t Jesus he was Jesus first high priest
 

Thunderrr-mental

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We also have no idea about Melchizedek’s lineage (Hebrews 7). The Bible makes no mention of whose family he belongs, only because he appears for a few verses. Some rabbinic teachings say Melchizedek was Noah’s son Shem. Others have said Melchizedek appeared to Abram in a Christophany, or as the Son of God mentioned throughout the Old and New Testament.
Although scholars have highly debated his true personhood, most, like Matthew Henry in his commentary, have concluded that he was, in fact, a man and not the Son of God.




What Does the Name "Melchizedek" Mean?
Melchizedek, or in some translations Malki-Tzedek, literally means “my king.” Because the tzedek means “righteous” or “just,” many scholars have wrongly translated his name to mean just king or righteous king, writes John J. Parsons. Salem also derives from the term Shalom, which means peace. Perhaps his name had also meant King of Peace. Hebrews 7 confirms both of these names.


(here)

Who Was Melchizedek? His Story and Importance to Jesus

(excerpt)

Melchizedek was a type of Christ, who comforts and refreshes his hungry and weary people with himself, the bread of life, and with the wine of his love, as well as his name and title agree with him, who is a righteous King and Prince of Peace, Jeremiah 23:5,
and he was the priest of the most high God; a priest as well as a king, as in many countries princes were both (p); and in this he was a type of Christ in his kingly and priestly offices, who is a priest upon the throne, both king and priest, Zechariah 6:13. Melchizedek was a priest not of any of the Phoenician deities, but of the true and living God, who is above all gods, dwells in the highest heaven, and is the most High over all the earth; by him was he called to this office and invested with it, and he ministered to him in it.


(here)

Gill's Exposition of the Entire Bible

IMO, Melchizedek was like John the Baptist, A very special person in Scripture, and a forerunner of Jesus Himself. But, he was a man, and not God the Son.

 

Thunderrr-mental

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Lol So it's obvious that Melchizedek was a model for the coming of Christ 😊

And Melchizedek should translate to the Messiah Christ.

But obviously the Muslims translate Messiah to mean different things 😋
 

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We also have no idea about Melchizedek’s lineage (Hebrews 7). The Bible makes no mention of whose family he belongs, only because he appears for a few verses. Some rabbinic teachings say Melchizedek was Noah’s son Shem. Others have said Melchizedek appeared to Abram in a Christophany, or as the Son of God mentioned throughout the Old and New Testament.
Although scholars have highly debated his true personhood, most, like Matthew Henry in his commentary, have concluded that he was, in fact, a man and not the Son of God.




What Does the Name "Melchizedek" Mean?
Melchizedek, or in some translations Malki-Tzedek, literally means “my king.” Because the tzedek means “righteous” or “just,” many scholars have wrongly translated his name to mean just king or righteous king, writes John J. Parsons. Salem also derives from the term Shalom, which means peace. Perhaps his name had also meant King of Peace. Hebrews 7 confirms both of these names.


(here)

Who Was Melchizedek? His Story and Importance to Jesus

(excerpt)

Melchizedek was a type of Christ, who comforts and refreshes his hungry and weary people with himself, the bread of life, and with the wine of his love, as well as his name and title agree with him, who is a righteous King and Prince of Peace, Jeremiah 23:5,
and he was the priest of the most high God; a priest as well as a king, as in many countries princes were both (p); and in this he was a type of Christ in his kingly and priestly offices, who is a priest upon the throne, both king and priest, Zechariah 6:13. Melchizedek was a priest not of any of the Phoenician deities, but of the true and living God, who is above all gods, dwells in the highest heaven, and is the most High over all the earth; by him was he called to this office and invested with it, and he ministered to him in it.


(here)

Gill's Exposition of the Entire Bible

IMO, Melchizedek was like John the Baptist, A very special person in Scripture, and a forerunner of Jesus Himself. But, he was a man, and not God the Son.
“Melchizedek was a type of Christ,”

exactly a figure for the time then present of Christ and his body and blood which would later become the source of Abraham’s covenant

“And Melchizedek king of Salem brought forth bread and wine: and he was the priest of the most high God.

And he blessed him, and said, Blessed be Abram of the most high God, possessor of heaven and earth: and blessed be the most high God, which hath delivered thine enemies into thy hand. And he gave him tithes of all.”
‭‭Genesis‬ ‭14:18-20‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“For this Melchisedec, king of Salem, priest of the most high God, who met Abraham returning from the slaughter of the kings, and blessed him; to whom also Abraham gave a tenth part of all; first being by interpretation King of righteousness, and after that also King of Salem, which is, King of peace;

without father, without mother, without descent, having neither beginning of days, nor end of life; but made like unto the Son of God; abideth a priest continually. Now consider how great this man was, unto whom even the patriarch Abraham gave the tenth of the spoils.”
‭‭Hebrews‬ ‭7:1-4‬ ‭KJV‬‬

amen he is the ot figure of the priesthood of Christ that offers atonement by his body and blood
 

Aaron56

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no I just make it understood that if a Muslim can recognise melchisadeck translates to Christ, then us Christians really need to also 😊.
So if men, under the influence of a demonic religion and without the indwelling of the Holy Spirit, see a thing one way, Christians should agree?
 

Thunderrr-mental

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So if men, under the influence of a demonic religion and without the indwelling of the Holy Spirit, see a thing one way, Christians should agree?
I dont know are you a Muslim because it seems you view melchisadeck as just a title.

You would be better of debating with Muslims as they debate just like you do.

That's what I'm saying 😊
 

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Jer 23:6 In his days Judah shall be saved, and Israel shall dwell safely: and this is his name whereby he shall be called, THE LORD OUR RIGHTEOUSNESS.

Who is the King of Righteousness? No more need dto figure it out, for it has been written since Jeremiah, actually, since Genesis when giving credit to what is taught there.
Who is both King and High Priest

only ONE, my Lord and Husband