Money is Satan

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Blik

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To discuss any tool like money or law as if it had power within itself only leads to useless bickering. It would be like arguing about a hammer, saying the hammer was to blame or praise for the work it helps us do.

I liked Blain's post about the $100 bill on the table. That bill could be used in many different ways for good or for evil.
 

studentoftheword

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When you get it, when you see it, you know it like no other thing. Money, in all its forms, is Satan. Economics, all of it, is the religion of Satan; it is the theology of Satan.

Money must be brought down. Money must be defeated.

I say ---Money is one of Satan's biggest Hooks ------I agree with that -----

All money belongs to God though not Satan -----

Haggai 2 NIV---verse 8
6 “This is what the Lord Almighty says: ‘In a little while I will once more shake the heavens and the earth, the sea and the dry land. 7 I will shake all nations, and what is desired by all nations will come, and I will fill this house with glory,’ says the Lord Almighty.

8 ‘The silver is mine and the gold is mine,’ declares the Lord Almighty.

9 ‘The glory of this present house will be greater than the glory of the former house,’ says the Lord Almighty. ‘And in this place I will grant peace,’ declares the Lord Almighty.


I say -------God gave us Money to use to glorify Him and His Kingdom -we are just Stewart's of how much money God give us -----we cannot live in this world without Money -----it is not the money that is the problem it is how we use God's money ------We have a Corrupt Nature and Satan knows that and can use his influence to getting us Hooked on Money ------Our then Corrupt Nature takes over with wanting more money which lends itself to Greed ---lust ---jealousy --envy and even murder ------

So I agree with the people who say it is the Love of money that is evil -----not the money itself as it comes from God -----
 

Blain

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#43
Money like every other tool can be used for good or evil but it itself is not evil because it has no conscious thought, many churches are big on money and especially mega churchesand perhaps some use it for God's glory but most just pocket it. this is evil but again it is a tool, likewise when you give to a charity that helps the needy or give money to a poor man you walked by this is for God's glory if money was evil it could not be used for good for there is no good in evil
 

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#44
To discuss any tool like money or law as if it had power within itself only leads to useless bickering. It would be like arguing about a hammer, saying the hammer was to blame or praise for the work it helps us do.

I liked Blain's post about the $100 bill on the table. That bill could be used in many different ways for good or for evil.
@Blain has a certain amount of wisdom.
 

Pilgrimshope

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#45
When you get it, when you see it, you know it like no other thing. Money, in all its forms, is Satan. Economics, all of it, is the religion of Satan; it is the theology of Satan.

Money must be brought down. Money must be defeated. The book of Revelation, at its core, is about the fight of Christ against the forces of money.

If you don't believe me, let your mind wander. Go all the way back into the far reaches of human history and consider how much misery money has brought the human race.

I don't know what to do about it. I have no solution to offer you. All I can do is type the final lines of Revelation:

He which testifieth these things saith, Surely I come quickly. Amen. Even so, come, Lord Jesus.
The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you all. Amen.
Give a selfish man who serves himself a lot of money it Will Lead him away from God and destroy him .

,give a born again Christian who loves others as himself any money and he will prosper in the good things of God and bless many with whatever money he has

Good and evil is within mankind and proceeds out of our hearts and minds according to the condition within
 

Nehemiah6

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#46
Money, in all its forms, is Satan. Economics, all of it, is the religion of Satan; it is the theology of Satan.
The love of money is the root of all evil. But money has righteous uses also.
 

justbyfaith

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@Veridican,

When the Antichrist comes he is going to attempt to do away with money.

There is going to be a computer chip in every person's hand or forehead that controls their banking so that money will be obsolete.

Money is not satan; but as long as it remains a factor the Antichrist / satan will not be able to fully reign on the earth.
 
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@Veridican,

When the Antichrist comes he is going to attempt to do away with money.

There is going to be a computer chip in every person's hand or forehead that controls their banking so that money will be obsolete.

Money is not satan; but as long as it remains a factor the Antichrist / satan will not be able to fully reign on the earth.
@Veridican,

When the Antichrist comes he is going to attempt to do away with money.

There is going to be a computer chip in every person's hand or forehead that controls their banking so that money will be obsolete.

Money is not satan; but as long as it remains a factor the Antichrist / satan will not be able to fully reign on the earth.
Maybe not. I do think the Mark of the Beast will be some kind of technology, but it could just be tied to a digital "social credit" or "currency" system.
 

justbyfaith

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Maybe not. I do think the Mark of the Beast will be some kind of technology, but it could just be tied to a digital "social credit" or "currency" system.
So, maybe not?
 

Rabai

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Jesus didn't say any of that. He said it was difficult for a rich man to enter the kingdom and that is because great wealth brings many sinful temptations. Even Lot was wealthy, and at the end God made him even more wealthy.
Jesus did not say any of that, as far you do not allow the money to use you and you always do Charity, feed the less privilege you will make heaven
 
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Jesus did not say any of that, as far you do not allow the money to use you and you always do Charity, feed the less privilege you will make heaven
So it is our deeds that will allow us to make it into heaven :unsure:? That is news to me......
 
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#54
Then we will be able to buy and sell without the mark.
Rev_13:16 And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:
Rev_13:17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.

I think you are missing the point. The Mark will show people are allowed to participate in buying and selling. Kind of like the vaccine passport now. You don't just get free everything for having a vaccine passport. The vaccine passport lets you buy and sell, but you still need to have money.

Look at who is getting the Mark in verse 16. Rich and poor. Looks very much like a conversion to a digital currency system to me, managed by the Antichrist's One World Order and unlocked with the Mark.

Are you talking about Christians? I have no idea if they will be doing commerce with each other at all. They will be fleeing for their lives.
 
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#55
When you get it, when you see it, you know it like no other thing. Money, in all its forms, is Satan. Economics, all of it, is the religion of Satan; it is the theology of Satan.

Money must be brought down. Money must be defeated. The book of Revelation, at its core, is about the fight of Christ against the forces of money.

If you don't believe me, let your mind wander. Go all the way back into the far reaches of human history and consider how much misery money has brought the human race.

I don't know what to do about it. I have no solution to offer you. All I can do is type the final lines of Revelation:

He which testifieth these things saith, Surely I come quickly. Amen. Even so, come, Lord Jesus.
The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you all. Amen.
Money isn’t evil in it of itself. It’s how you use it, and even then it’s not the money thats evil, it’s who’s using money wrong that’s evil.
 

CS1

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#56
When you get it, when you see it, you know it like no other thing. Money, in all its forms, is Satan. Economics, all of it, is the religion of Satan; it is the theology of Satan.

Money must be brought down. Money must be defeated. The book of Revelation, at its core, is about the fight of Christ against the forces of money.

If you don't believe me, let your mind wander. Go all the way back into the far reaches of human history and consider how much misery money has brought the human race.

I don't know what to do about it. I have no solution to offer you. All I can do is type the final lines of Revelation:

He which testifieth these things saith, Surely I come quickly. Amen. Even so, come, Lord Jesus.
The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you all. Amen.
Please send CS1 all your money. I will cast out the devil in the money and use it to the Glory of God ok,?
 
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While I disagree with the OP's post, money is just a currency. I want to say something that is not often considered, please bear with me.

The Bible says in 1 Tim. 6:10 "For the love of money is the root of all evil: which while some coveted after, they have erred from the faith, and pierced themselves through with many sorrows."

We often read that "the love of money is the root of all kinds of evil" and stop there, fully convinced we don't love money, assured we are on the right track.

According to the rest of 1 Tim. 6:10 "...which while some coveted after, they have erred from the faith..." 1 Tim. 6:10 saying that's coveting money is tantamount to erring from the faith. Some versions say "wandering from the faith." It's essentially apostasy.

Coveting is still a sin in the New Testament. "Thou shall not covet..." is commandment 10 of 10, per Exodus 20:17.

Now that the word has been properly divided and a foundation laid, we must consider that merely seeking an income is coveting money.

When we are employed, we are coveting money they does not belong to us yet. Covet just means desiring something that does to belong to you. Technically just wanting a paycheck is a sin, but that's being strict about it.

It's possible the early church realized this and briefly attempted a commune lifestyle where everyone shares their possessions with all others as needed (Acts 4:32-37) in order to avoid coveting money.
 
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While I disagree with the OP's post, money is just a currency. I want to say something that is not often considered, please bear with me.

The Bible says in 1 Tim. 6:10 "For the love of money is the root of all evil: which while some coveted after, they have erred from the faith, and pierced themselves through with many sorrows."

We often read that "the love of money is the root of all kinds of evil" and stop there, fully convinced we don't love money, assured we are on the right track.

According to the rest of 1 Tim. 6:10 "...which while some coveted after, they have erred from the faith..." 1 Tim. 6:10 saying that's coveting money is tantamount to erring from the faith. Some versions say "wandering from the faith." It's essentially apostasy.

Coveting is still a sin in the New Testament. "Thou shall not covet..." is commandment 10 of 10, per Exodus 20:17.

Now that the word has been properly divided and a foundation laid, we must consider that merely seeking an income is coveting money.

When we are employed, we are coveting money they does not belong to us yet. Covet just means desiring something that does to belong to you. Technically just wanting a paycheck is a sin, but that's being strict about it.

It's possible the early church realized this and briefly attempted a commune lifestyle where everyone shares their possessions with all others as needed (Acts 4:32-37) in order to avoid coveting money.
"Coveting" doesn't just mean wanting something. Its definition is "inordinate or immoral desire." There's nothing wrong with working for money. As the Scriptures say, the laborer is worthy of his hire. The Bible does not prohibit money or even prohibit desire. It prohibits covetousness: inordinate desire. Lust. Wanting something that it is not right to have, or wanting it to the degree that one is willing to do evil in order to get it.
 
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"Coveting" doesn't just mean wanting something. Its definition is "inordinate or immoral desire." There's nothing wrong with working for money. As the Scriptures say, the laborer is worthy of his hire. The Bible does not prohibit money or even prohibit desire.
When someone wants something, anything, even a little bit, they have set their heart upon it. The sin of coveting applies to someone wanting something that doesn't belong to them. Wanting money from an employer is coveting, as inconvenient as that may be for some people, that's the reality because words have meanings.

Exodus 20:17 KJV
17Thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's house, thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's wife, nor his manservant, nor his maidservant, nor his ox, nor his ass, nor any thing that is thy neighbour's.

Romans 13:9 KJV
9For this, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not kill, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness, Thou shalt not covet; and if there be any other commandment, it is briefly comprehended in this saying, namely, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself

Ephesians 5:3 KJV
3But fornication, and all uncleanness, or covetousness, let it not be once named among you, as becometh saints;

1 Timothy 6:10 KJV
10For the love of money is the root of all evil: which while some coveted after, they have erred from the faith, and pierced themselves through with many sorrows.

It prohibits covetousness: inordinate desire. Lust. Wanting something that it is not right to have, or wanting it to the degree that one is willing to do evil in order to get it.
That's nice and all, but the Bible defines coveting as wanting "anything" that belongs to our neighbour. Please see Ex. 20:17 below.

So while there is some truth in what you're saying, it's not completely right, so it's wrong. If someone wants anything that belongs to someone else then that's coveting and the Bible says it's a sin.

Here's an example: The employer owns the money before giving it to employees. When employees want their employer's money, that's the definition of coveting. Just saying.

Exodus 20:17 KJV
17Thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's house, thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's wife, nor his manservant, nor his maidservant, nor his ox, nor his ass, nor any thing that is thy neighbour's.
 
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When someone wants something, anything, even a little bit, they have set their heart upon it. The sin of coveting applies to wanting something that that doesn't belong to them. Wanting money from an employer is coveting, as inconvenient as that may be for some people, that's the reality because words have meanings.

Exodus 20:17 KJV
17Thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's house, thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's wife, nor his manservant, nor his maidservant, nor his ox, nor his ass, nor any thing that is thy neighbour's.

Romans 13:9 KJV
9For this, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not kill, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness, Thou shalt not covet; and if there be any other commandment, it is briefly comprehended in this saying, namely, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself

Ephesians 5:3 KJV
3But fornication, and all uncleanness, or covetousness, let it not be once named among you, as becometh saints;

1 Timothy 6:10 KJV
10For the love of money is the root of all evil: which while some coveted after, they have erred from the faith, and pierced themselves through with many sorrows.



That's nice and all, but the Bible defines coveting as wanting "anything" that belongs to our neighbour. Please see Ex. 20:17 below So while there is some truth in what you're saying, it's wrong. If someone wants anything that belongs to someone else then that's coveting and the Bible says it's a sin. The employer owns the money before giving it to employees. When employees want their employer's money, that's the definition of coveting. Just saying.

Exodus 20:17 KJV
17Thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's house, thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's wife, nor his manservant, nor his maidservant, nor his ox, nor his ass, nor any thing that is thy neighbour's.
Your view sounds like a cultish, socialistic twisting of Scripture, or maybe some offshoot of Buddhist teachings.

If you are correct, why didn't the Jews outlaw money in their society?

And please explain to me how humans are supposed to live without having any desires whatsoever? Normal human desires and instincts drive us to provide food for ourselves and our families, to seek mates, to put roofs over our heads.

If you are not an ascetic, living naked in the woods, then you cannot hold the view you promote without being a hypocrite. Since you have a computer, that you are a hypocrite is the only logical conclusion here. I really have nothing else to say to you on this subject.