More Errors?

[Runningman]

Hi 2ndTimothygroup,

It wasn't an instruction it was a suggestion, because if you had read some commentaries you would have already seen the answers Gideon gave you, and you would have realized scripture does NOT contradict scripture. Secondly, I may have a bit of fun in other threads but I don't play games when it comes to God's Holy word!

As for the shekels where you think there might be another contradiction - Somedisciple has answered that for you as well. Note well what the verses actually say and not maybe what we think.

Samuel tells us what David paid for the threshing floor and oxen:-

---“No,” replied the king, “I insist on paying a price, for I will not offer to the LORD my God burnt offerings that cost me nothing.” So David bought the threshing floor and the oxen for fifty shekels of silver.

Chronicles report what David paid for the whole place/site:

----So David paid Ornan six hundred shekels of gold for the site.…

Careful reading usually helps.


As I said to your earlier, you may want to look at what the bible says about the providence of God. Of course you may not that's your choice.

Isaiah 10 may help you to understand slightly, I say slightly as none of us can fully understand how God operates between His sovereign will and the choices of man, except that God decree's and ordains whatever may pass and man is still responsible for his own actions. Again Read Isaiah 10.. God decreed that the King of Assyria would be used to punish Israel, yet the King of Assyria arrogantly and proudly boasted of his great plan (N.B. He said it was his great plan)to crush the Israelites. Who was doing what? And yet the King was held responsible for his evil intentions and actions.

Lets press this point even further.. Who planned, decreed and ordained the death of our Lord on the cross? The answer should be resoundingly God! Yet evil men took it upon themselves to crucify our Lord. and will justly be held accountable for their actions. How does that work?

Saying that scripture contradicts itself means you have a very low view of God's self revelation of Himself, what he has done, what he is doing and what he will do.

If scripture contradicts itself then it is not trustworthy, or at best it is only trustworthy when someone decides which parts suit them. Private interpretation can be a dangerous thing.. which we see time and time again .

Just goes to show that the alleged contradictions that are found in the Bible are always the result of misunderstanding something.

We don't know all things, we miss small details, nuances, and subtleties in the text.

The Bible often does not go into great detail to explain all things. Even major events can be glossed over with little more explanation than what is worthy of a footnote.

I believe the OP of this thread is one of those many examples. Clearly there is a major difference between purchasing a threshing floor for a vastly smaller sum than the price of a piece of land.

These studies are important, though, but jumping off the starting line with charges of God contradicting Himself seems like a perfect example of which attitude we shouldn't have toward God and His holy words.

 

[Kidron]

I see you continuing to get butt hurt over semantics that have been explained to you. He doesn't have to prove anything because he's not framing himself as any kind of authority. It's a discussion forum. He did find errors before- his errors. Get over it, man.

Ah, you are a child in your mind.
And i thought i was dealing with a man.

And, FYI, the devil's ministers dont have to be scholars, they just have to be liars.

 

[2ndTimothyGroup]

He did find errors before- his errors.

Sorry. But I haven't made any errors. I offered information and like you said, people got themselves all up in a bunch. I offered an idea. Ideas are not errors. If you want to revisit Jesus not telling the Truth to His "brothers," open a new thread and give me the ol' invite.

 

[SomeDisciple]

Sorry. But I haven't made any errors. I offered information and like you said, people got themselves all up in a bunch. I offered an idea. Ideas are not errors. If you want to revisit Jesus not telling the Truth to His "brothers," open a new thread and give me the ol' invite.

I wasn't actually referring to that one, I was talking about Joab and Adonijah or something like that- you had errors in your notes, yes?
Now I remember, it was actually my thread about Joab!

 

[2ndTimothyGroup]

Just goes to show that the alleged contradictions that are found in the Bible are always the result of misunderstanding something.

We don't know all things, we miss small details, nuances, and subtleties in the text.

The Bible often does not go into great detail to explain all things. Even major events can be glossed over with little more explanation than what is worthy of a footnote.

I believe the OP of this thread is one of those many examples. Clearly there is a major difference between purchasing a threshing floor for a vastly smaller sum than the price of a piece of land.

These studies are important, though, but jumping off the starting line with charges of God contradicting Himself seems like a perfect example of which attitude we shouldn't have toward God and His holy words.

Hey, if you DON'T want to be prepared to give an answer for questions offered to you, so be it. I came to you people for your opinions. Get a grip of yourself and slow your roll.

1 Peter 3:15 NKJV - 15 "But sanctify the Lord God in your hearts, and always [be] ready to [give] a defense to everyone who asks you a reason for the hope that is in you, with meekness and fear . . ."

I really don't care if you misjudge my intentions . . . but my Father in Heaven does. You can deal with Him.

 

[2ndTimothyGroup]

I wasn't actually referring to that one, I was talking about Joab and Adonijah or something like that- you had errors in your notes, yes?

Yep. I keep track of these things so that I can learn of them and be prepared. I'm doing my best to understand the Holy Word of God, and to do so, I advise that folks do what I'm doing. I'm straightening myself out. Why you people don't get it is baffling. Ignorance is bliss, I suppose.

 

[2ndTimothyGroup]

The way I see it is like this:

I come to you "christians" asking for help. And what do you do? Berate? Belittle? Cause a big problem?

This is exactly why Christ is hated today, and it is because of corrupt, "said christians" who are apostate and filled with judgment, anger, bitterness, resentment . . . all attributes of the Devil.

 

[Kidron]

Sorry. But I haven't made any errors.
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You are confused, again.
What you meant to say is....>"I found no errors in the bible, so i created a NEW Troll Thread that says..."" More errors"?????, to prove how confused you are regarding the word of God.
That can happen, as the Bible has no use for a Bible denier who plays games with the truth.

 

[Runningman]

Hey, if you DON'T want to be prepared to give an answer for questions offered to you, so be it. I came to you people for your opinions. Get a grip of yourself and slow your roll.

1 Peter 3:15 NKJV - 15 "But sanctify the Lord God in your hearts, and always [be] ready to [give] a defense to everyone who asks you a reason for the hope that is in you, with meekness and fear . . ."

I really don't care if you misjudge my intentions . . . but my Father in Heaven does. You can deal with Him.

Take your own advice.

 

[2ndTimothyGroup]

Take your own advice.

Thanks for your help! It's good to know that I can count on my Christian Brothers and Sisters in Christ.

 

[tourist]

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Here is one of his statements..........""because the First Chronicles rendition is in complete contradiction."""

Notice he just taught an error in the word of God?
What is his proof?
"im writing a paper, and i found this verse and over here that says something different then this other verse, and i can't understand why, so, i'll just say its an error or a contradiction".

See that? That is unproven implication, regarding denying the Word of God is TRUTH.
This creates the idea that the bible is not trustworthy.
Why would anyone want to do this, on a Christian forum?
It would be understandable if this person was on a Atheist forum, as they'd love his Thread.
But here, its a finger in God's eye that you'd do well not to support.

It was an apparent contradiction.

The intent of this thread is, by means of discussion, to sort through these apparent inconsistencies and to ascertain the truth. This is my understanding of the OP. He was certainly not disparaging the bible.

Personally, I believe that God knows full well how the various translations and revisions would be written. I don't believe that there are errors or contradictions but rather the differences can be reconciled through careful study and contemplation of the Word of God in its intended context and purpose. Any errors will remain apparent until the time that they can readily be understood and recognized as the truth.

 

[2ndTimothyGroup]

The intent of this thread is, by means of discussion, to sort through these apparent inconsistencies and to ascertain the truth. This is my understanding of the OP. He was certainly not disparaging the bible.

Pretty simple, isn't it?

It's all good. It doesn't bother me in the least. I let God repay.

 

[tourist]

Thanks for you help! It's good to know that I can count on my Christian Brothers and Sisters in Christ. What a joke.

Some Christian Brothers and Sisters in Christ, but perhaps not all of them can be counted on.

 

[2ndTimothyGroup]

Some Christian Brothers and Sisters in Christ, but perhaps not all of them can be counted on.

Some, but like you said, not many. The Remnant is very, very small.

 

[tourist]

Some, but like you said, not many. The Remnant is very, very small.

The remnant, by its very nature, must be small.

 

[2ndTimothyGroup]

The remnant, by its very nature, must be small.

Thoes who do not belong to the Remnant but refer to themselves as Christians . . . we're basically looking at self-righteous Sadducees, Pharisees, and teachers of the Law. They were all in the original Matrix. They think they're right . . . but haven't a clue. They have been Spiritually blinded so that Truth is kept hidden from their minds and hearts. And so we are told to bless those who persecute us, therefore, I sincerely do hope that the Lord would Bless these people. And what is the ultimate Blessing? The Circumcision of their Heart so that they might receive a New Nature.

I like how the Jewish Tanakh speaks of their Nature. Check this out:

Jeremiah 49 16 - Tanakh: - "Your horrible nature, your arrogant heart has seduced you, you who dwell in clefts of the rock, who occupy the height of the hill! Should you ext as high as the eagle, from there I will pull you down."

 

[Kidron]

The intent of this Thread is, by means of discussion, to sort through these apparent inconsistencies and to ascertain the truth. This is my understanding of the OP. He was certainly not disparaging the bible.

His Thread's Title is "more ERRORS" ??????
This concludes that some have been found already.....and proven.
Had honestly been applied to the title, then he would have said....>"ARE THERE">...but he instead chose to imply there are MORE, as if the bible is filled with them.
And that conclusion is a deceit., which makes the title of the Thread, a accusation and not an inquiry.

Just so you know, im taught in manuscript evidence, and can teach it.
I can explain to you why Martin Luther left the Catholic Church, based on Jerome's mistranslation of the Koine Greek into the Latin Vulgate corruption that produced the Catholic Douay Rheims "bible" that is a satanic masterpiece.
I can tell you about the "Satanic Bible". I can tell you about the "Queen James (homosexual) bible.
If you want to talk about Origen's Hexapla, we can go there.
I can tell you why there are 30 "extant" greek texts, (full new testaments in Koine Greek) yet, "scholarship" decided that about 3 can be used to make Bibles,

I can explain to you why in the the end of the "time of the Gentiles", (right now)..... the English is the bible and the Koine Greek Texts, are not.
I can discover for you the reason that there is no "original greek" texts, and when someone says...>'the original greek here, says"......that they are lying to you.

So, when a person writes a Thread, that insinuates there are MORE ERRORS in the word of God,???????? having not proven ANY AT ALL, ... then the Thread has to be called out, so that the false idea being propagated that could lead someone to believe that the bible is not trustworthy, can be reversed.
There are 2 other people here that can see the issue, and perhaps you will also, soon enough.

I asked this OP how many other times he has posted this accusation of "More errors" on other Threads, and that is when he started to dodge me.
If you go and read my first few posts to him, you'll note that he never answered questions, he just became evasive, totally.
That is not how an honest person, behaves.
I can see why he would do that..

I have Thread's here.
Im not going to run and hide if you go to them and find what you perceive as worth asking me about.
He RAN.
Now he's sitting there smiling letting you and a few others do the heavy lifting for Him.
These types are always the same.
POST a CLick Bate Thread and watch the fires burn and keep burning.
It why they do it.

 

[Kidron]

Thoes who do not belong to the Remnant but refer to themselves as Christians . . . we're basically looking at self-righteous Sadducees, Pharisees,

You are describing dark lights who would create the false idea that there are errors in the bible, while they pretend to be the remnant.

 

[Runningman]

Thanks for your help! It's good to know that I can count on my Christian Brothers and Sisters in Christ.

I hope you don't take it personally when people correct your errors of interpretation. It's nothing personal and I love you or I wouldn't have said anything.

This is a Bible discussion forum so that's how I treat it. No one is persecuting you, I'm sorry you feel that way.

 

[ewq1938]

Thanks for your help! It's good to know that I can count on my Christian Brothers and Sisters in Christ.

Don't you mean "Christian Brothers and Sisters in Christ the liar" since you called Jesus a liar in that other thread?