Mt 24 To deceive the elect

[peldom10]

...timed out....

A quick study of pre civil war conditions .........mirrors our current environment.

 

[Nehemiah6]

I would say that I think your idea is rooted in hatred, it's not the Biblical.

That is total nonsense. But let me ask you: Do you love Communism, and how it is destroying lives in China and other parts of the world? And how much they hate Chinese Christians? And now it is being established in America with a vengeance, and history is repeating itself.

Did I say politics has anything to do with the Bible? But all Christians have to evaluate political parties and politicians. And a cold sober assessment of the Democratic party in the USA shows that they are misrepresenting themselves. They are now committed Fascists and Communists.

 

[Aaron56]

So man thinks he is.

It’s the law of the nation.

 

[Aerials1978]

It’s the law of the nation.

The Lord brings up nations and tears them down. It’s no different for the US.

 

[Aaron56]

The Lord brings up nations and tears them down. It’s no different for the US.

Of course. I was just pointing out a wide disparity between the Kingdom and the US.

 

[Rondonmon]

I totally get abandoning the sins of the left. Immorality, abandonment of personal responsibility, enablement of the lazy, abortion, a/poly-theism... No, Christians shouldn't have anything to do with those, they're against Biblical principals. And Jehovah God Himself.

But there's this lie, this deception, this mindset that if you abandon one side, you MUST embrace the other side. It's the American way. It's one or the other.

And to embrace the right, one must turn a blind eye to their equally egregious sins. Mammon worship. Self idolatry. Greed. Cheating workers. Abandonment of the sick and poor. Lies and deceit. Those aren’t Biblical principals either.

And if you don't discern the sins of the right, then maybe you my friend need to pray with a more open mind.

But what concerns me is that only one of these two sides couches their actions as being "of God". And as such they are the more deceptive, because they are fooling the faithful and deceiving them. And leading them from the Truth.

This country will fall to the antichrist. God proclaimed it. An no one on the left OR right is going to change that. They are all leading us down the merry path to tribulation.

And anyone who follows them - left or right - is being being deceived and led astray.

Firstly, there is NO RIGHT, we conservatives are God-fearing, for the most part, down the middle citizenry in the exact same place/mindset as the Forefathers/Framers of the Constitution. The FAR LEFT gets people like you, and others to use the word RIGHT and they have won the day, yes, we are RIGHT of those Commie Marxists I GUESS, but we are not RIGHT WINGERS which the word you use is meant to connotate, which is why they use it. They know if they can get people (like you) to use the word RIGH that they can smear conservatives as Right-Wing Fanatics, when we are down the middle, God-fearing, nation loving, law-abiding citizens, but they win the day by brainwashing people to us THEIR VOCABULARY. LOL

By the way, your whole premise of Matt. 24 is in error. The ELECT Jesus is speaking about here are the Elect Jews who come unto Christ Jesus AFTER the Rapture. And if you reread the passage Jesus is saying just ten opposite of what you surmise, he's basically saying that it will ve IMPOSSIBLE for these Elect t be deceived, BECAUSE I have told them BEFORE[HAND] what is going to happen. WATCH

Matt. 24:24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible,(meaning it is NOT POSSIBLE) they shall deceive the very elect. 25 Behold, I have told you before[hand].

26 Wherefore if they shall say unto you, Behold, he is in the desert; go not forth: behold, he is in the secret chambers; believe it not.

27 For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.

Why is it NOT POSSIBLE to deceive the end-time Jews who repent? Because Elijah and Moses (Two-witnesses) will have told them all they need to know, and the above is one of their lessons, they tell them. Hey guys, when you get to Petra and hear that Jesus/Messiah is in the Desert, or in the Secret Store Room somewhere, just cool:) remember what Jesus said, NO........That is not me, I will be coming in the EASTERN SKIES for all men to see !! BOOM

So, your whole premise is off kilter to start with, no elect can get deceived. The Church is in Heaven, and Jesus told everyone elsewhere to look for him. Thus as Jesus said, IF IT WERE POSSIBLE (Meaning it is not possible to deceive the Elect because they understand that Jesus will come from the Eastern Skies)

 

[JaumeJ]

Are you talking about politicians or citizens?

Mankind without God.

 

[justbyfaith]

I totally get abandoning the sins of the left. Immorality, abandonment of personal responsibility, enablement of the lazy, abortion, a/poly-theism... No, Christians shouldn't have anything to do with those, they're against Biblical principals. And Jehovah God Himself.

But there's this lie, this deception, this mindset that if you abandon one side, you MUST embrace the other side. It's the American way. It's one or the other.

And to embrace the right, one must turn a blind eye to their equally egregious sins. Mammon worship. Self idolatry. Greed. Cheating workers. Abandonment of the sick and poor. Lies and deceit. Those aren’t Biblical principals either.

And if you don't discern the sins of the right, then maybe you my friend need to pray with a more open mind.

But what concerns me is that only one of these two sides couches their actions as being "of God". And as such they are the more deceptive, because they are fooling the faithful and deceiving them. And leading them from the Truth.

This country will fall to the antichrist. God proclaimed it. An no one on the left OR right is going to change that. They are all leading us down the merry path to tribulation.

And anyone who follows them - left or right - is being being deceived and led astray.

"Where there are prophecies, they will fail" (1 Corinthians 13:8).

The world does not have to fall to the Antichrist on our watch.

...he cannot rule and reign until the power of the holy people has been scattered (Daniel 12:7)

The Holy Ghost within the church is a restraining factor that keeps the Antichrist at bay.

As long as the church prays to God, "Thy kingdom come, thy will be done...give us day by day our daily bread...deliver us from evil" the Antichrist spirit's kingdom and agenda will be diminished and thwarted as the kingdom and agenda of Christ grows and is exalted.

I prophesied in 2019 at Christianityboards that 2021 would be recorded in history as "the year of discrimination".

This has been happening with the vaccine mandates as Christians are being discriminated against over the fact that we will not stand for anything close to the mark.

Because the vaccine mandates are only one step away from the mark.

But I do not believe that they will succeed at getting the whole world to take the vaccines unless the church is taken out of the world (and the Holy Ghost with it) first

 

[justbyfaith]

I totally get abandoning the sins of the left. Immorality, abandonment of personal responsibility, enablement of the lazy, abortion, a/poly-theism... No, Christians shouldn't have anything to do with those, they're against Biblical principals. And Jehovah God Himself.

But there's this lie, this deception, this mindset that if you abandon one side, you MUST embrace the other side. It's the American way. It's one or the other.

And to embrace the right, one must turn a blind eye to their equally egregious sins. Mammon worship. Self idolatry. Greed. Cheating workers. Abandonment of the sick and poor. Lies and deceit. Those aren’t Biblical principals either.

And if you don't discern the sins of the right, then maybe you my friend need to pray with a more open mind.

But what concerns me is that only one of these two sides couches their actions as being "of God". And as such they are the more deceptive, because they are fooling the faithful and deceiving them. And leading them from the Truth.

This country will fall to the antichrist. God proclaimed it. An no one on the left OR right is going to change that. They are all leading us down the merry path to tribulation.

And anyone who follows them - left or right - is being being deceived and led astray.

Also, a person can vote Republican without being immersed in the sins that you have attributed to the Republican party.

But I think that one cannot vote democratic without being immersed in the sins of the democratic party.

So, to not vote Republican can very effectively be counted as a democratic half-vote.

Because to vote Independent instead of Republican is to steal a vote from the party against the democrats that is really the only party that has the possibility of winning against them...the Republican party.

In voting Independent, you would not be voting Republican. And that Republican vote could be the vote that takes it over the edge so that the Democrat candidate loses.

Because you wasted your Republican vote on the Independent party or otherwise, you gave the democrats an advantage.

 

[JaumeJ]

jWe are instructed to give without looking, and not to allow the left hand to know what the right hand is doing. It is a wonderful manner of being. I do not care if a person, other thana brother, is lazy or what. We are here to do what we are taught to do, not to follow the doctrines of men.

 

[soberxp]

That is total nonsense. But let me ask you: Do you love Communism, and how it is destroying lives in China and other parts of the world? And how much they hate Chinese Christians? And now it is being established in America with a vengeance, and history is repeating itself.

Did I say politics has anything to do with the Bible? But all Christians have to evaluate political parties and politicians. And a cold sober assessment of the Democratic party in the USA shows that they are misrepresenting themselves. They are now committed Fascists and Communists.

Explaining the truth of the Bible has nothing to do with whether I love the Communist Party. The Communist Party's ignorance of the Bible is probably indistinguishable from American politicians.

They are all politicians. As for how to evaluate them, it's up to God.

Don't be deceived by the lies of the media in USA.The news about China is just to spread the seeds of hatred.

We want to live for Christ, not for the world.

 

[soberxp]

I don't quite understand what you said. The American Democratic Party has become the Communist Party.

By the way, neither Republicans nor Democrats in the United States can successfully learning from the Communist Party.

Because in my opinion, the United States spends too much money on wars,
Now the United States wants to build infrastructure. I think it's too late.

 

[JTB]

W It was awesome wonderful to hear the name JESUS CHRIST again.

Matthew 7:21“Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. 22Many will say to me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name and in your name drive out demons and in your name perform many miracles?’ 23Then I will tell them plainly, ‘I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!’

 

[JTB]

Except God's way is the...right way.

Currently we see both being played out .

Another way to put it is secular (leftist) vs righteous. (Christian). ...or Liberals (leftist) vs conservative (righteous-Christian).

This is the basis of the vast majority of opposition discord in congress, govt. society.

One thing also for certain.....it is growing rapidly and will be the basis of major near future civil unrest.

How the right ever allowed the left to steal the word...progressive...as a descriptive mascot...is beyond me.

And to embrace the right, one must turn a blind eye to their equally egregious sins. Mammon worship. Self idolatry. Greed. Cheating workers. Abandonment of the sick and poor. Lies and deceit. Those aren’t Biblical principals either.

 

[JTB]

Firstly, there is NO RIGHT, we conservatives are God-fearing, for the most part, down the middle citizenry in the exact same place/mindset as the Forefathers/Framers of the Constitution.

And herein lays another problem ... those who lean so far to one side they're about to topple over, yet thinking they are in the middle. There is no middle any more. Not much of one anyway.

 

[JTB]

"Where there are prophecies, they will fail" (1 Corinthians 13:8).

The world does not have to fall to the Antichrist on our watch.

...he cannot rule and reign until the power of the holy people has been scattered (Daniel 12:7)

The Holy Ghost within the church is a restraining factor that keeps the Antichrist at bay.

As long as the church prays to God, "Thy kingdom come, thy will be done...give us day by day our daily bread...deliver us from evil" the Antichrist spirit's kingdom and agenda will be diminished and thwarted as the kingdom and agenda of Christ grows and is exalted.

I prophesied in 2019 at Christianityboards that 2021 would be recorded in history as "the year of discrimination".

This has been happening with the vaccine mandates as Christians are being discriminated against over the fact that we will not stand for anything close to the mark.

Because the vaccine mandates are only one step away from the mark.

But I do not believe that they will succeed at getting the whole world to take the vaccines unless the church is taken out of the world (and the Holy Ghost with it) first

You prophesied.

 

[JTB]

Also, a person can vote Republican without being immersed in the sins that you have attributed to the Republican party.

But I think that one cannot vote democratic without being immersed in the sins of the democratic party.

So, to not vote Republican can very effectively be counted as a democratic half-vote.

Because to vote Independent instead of Republican is to steal a vote from the party against the democrats that is really the only party that has the possibility of winning against them...the Republican party.

In voting Independent, you would not be voting Republican. And that Republican vote could be the vote that takes it over the edge so that the Democrat candidate loses.

Because you wasted your Republican vote on the Independent party or otherwise, you gave the democrats an advantage.

Again, a view tainted by division.

 

[JaumeJ]

Many are judge, jury and executioner in the forum, however we are to extend our love and share our mercy received with all who will come to Jesus.

Those who have not yet arrived we must not judge, for God has given many men extra years in order to have time to repent. Do not Hurry out father, God bless all, amen.

 

[Rondonmon]

And herein lays another problem ... those who lean so far to one side they're about to topple over, yet thinking they are in the middle. There is no middle any more. Not much of one anyway.

You don't even know me Mr Jack-leg, I have been a Preacher for over 35 years, LOL. I am a far-right boogy man. I believe some people on these interwebs are Soros paid actors and or Gov. backed spies who are paid to divide us. If you don't have enough intelligence to look at the foundations of our nation, to look at Jesus own words, and to apply it to everyday life, and thus understand that Abortion is murder, and thus Homosexuality is EVIL, and thus that the Forefathers of America gave us FREEDOMS that never existed before that time, because the COMMON MAN did not have a voice/VOTE, only the Aristocrats/Lords had a voice/vote. The Framers of our constitution stated that all men are created with inalienable rights given by God. Jesus was CENTER not Right nor Left. We follow Jesus Christ, we are like unto our Forefathers/Framers, we want Capitalism, not Socialism.

You can call it what you will, we know your type.

 

[JTB]

You don't even know me Mr Jack-leg, I have been a Preacher for over 35 years, LOL. I am a far-right boogy man. I believe some people on these interwebs are Soros paid actors and or Gov. backed spies who are paid to divide us. If you don't have enough intelligence to look at the foundations of our nation, to look at Jesus own words, and to apply it to everyday life, and thus understand that Abortion is murder, and thus Homosexuality is EVIL, and thus that the Forefathers of America gave us FREEDOMS that never existed before that time, because the COMMON MAN did not have a voice/VOTE, only the Aristocrats/Lords had a voice/vote. The Framers of our constitution stated that all men are created with inalienable rights given by God. Jesus was CENTER not Right nor Left. We follow Jesus Christ, we are like unto our Forefathers/Framers, we want Capitalism, not Socialism.

You can call it what you will, we know your type.

Wow, there's whole bunch of the Holy Spirit in that post.

NOT