Muslim ask if you believe you go to heaven when you die why you pray for healing

[Blik]

Yep Paul say to life is for Christ and die is a gain why not happy to make profit
Muslim try to insult us but yes we believe heaven is happy

Because we know that this life is a life of flesh and temporary does not mean that the Lord does not value our life on earth. It belongs to God and God uses us in this life for Himself. God does not ask us to not enjoy and live this life well. We live with faith in all that is of God, including our life here on earth and our life in heaven with Him eternally.

 

[Pilgrimshope]

Because we know that this life is a life of flesh and temporary does not mean that the Lord does not value our life on earth. It belongs to God and God uses us in this life for Himself. God does not ask us to not enjoy and live this life well. We live with faith in all that is of God, including our life here on earth and our life in heaven with Him eternally.

I think he’s speaking from a different life experience Indonesia is abbey non Christian place as many nations are in Islam dominated areas , in America we don’t know about real persecutions when people are beaten to death exclusively because they are Christian in a non Christian nation and community it’s going to be a totally different experience on earth , than if we live in a society that allows and has laws that say you have the right to practice and speak of your faith and laws against harming others because of it

other places in the world aren’t like other free societies and that’s going to change the persons view of the worldly life

 

[Blik]

I think he’s speaking from a different life experience Indonesia is abbey non Christian place as many nations are in Islam dominated areas , in America we don’t know about real persecutions when people are beaten to death exclusively because they are Christian in a non Christian nation and community it’s going to be a totally different experience on earth , than if we live in a society that allows and has laws that say you have the right to practice and speak of your faith and laws against harming others because of it

other places in the world aren’t like other free societies and that’s going to change the persons view of the worldly life

Don't you think that being a Christian means to hold fast to the truth that is universal and absolute no matter what circumstances we find ourselves in? We are heading into the last days when it is so important that we grab hold of the armor of God and keep it around us in a world full of demons who are running it?

 

[Pilgrimshope]

Don't you think that being a Christian means to hold fast to the truth that is universal and absolute no matter what circumstances we find ourselves in? We are heading into the last days when it is so important that we grab hold of the armor of God and keep it around us in a world full of demons who are running it?

sure I think we should cling to the truth , all I was saying brother was that this world and it’s value to the person is dofferent goven thier experiences in it

so one person might look at this world as a blessing and great time they may be rich and have all they need in a country like america the world looks a lot better from the view of an Afghan Christian or Chinese Christian or Kerry Korean Christian still locked in concentration camps and having thier organs harvested

or people in Muslim countries with sharia law where they are beheaded just for believing the many ooor and starving nations across Africa ect

it’s alot easier to talk about the enjoyment and good life on earth if we are well taken care of and aren’t suffering , my only point is the world doesn’t look the same to everyone but heavenly glory does

 

[Magenta]

Don't you think that being a Christian means to hold fast to the truth that is universal and absolute no matter what circumstances we find ourselves in? We are heading into the last days when it is so important that we grab hold of the armor of God and keep it around us in a world full of demons who are running it?

We have been in the last days since Christ walked this world in the flesh...

 

[Icedaisey]

How about turning the table on the Muslim? Ask them if they mourn when a fellow Muslim dies. And how they feel about Yawm al-din .

 

[Jackson123]

Because we know that this life is a life of flesh and temporary does not mean that the Lord does not value our life on earth. It belongs to God and God uses us in this life for Himself. God does not ask us to not enjoy and live this life well. We live with faith in all that is of God, including our life here on earth and our life in heaven with Him eternally.

2 cot 4:18

18 While we look not at the things which are seen, but at the things which are not seen: for the things which are seen are temporal; but the things which are not seen are eternal.

Paul not focus on temporary life he may suffer a lot on his temporary life but it’s ok only few minute but he will have a lot of valuable life for billions years

 

[Pilgrimshope]

2 cot 4:18

18 While we look not at the things which are seen, but at the things which are not seen: for the things which are seen are temporal; but the things which are not seen are eternal.

Paul not focus on temporary life he may suffer a lot on his temporary life but it’s ok only few minute but he will have a lot of valuable life for billions years

“If ye then be risen with Christ, seek those things which are above, where Christ sitteth on the right hand of God. Set your affection on things above, not on things on the earth.

For ye are dead, and your life is hid with Christ in God. When Christ, who is our life, shall appear, then shall ye also appear with him in glory.”
‭‭Colossians‬ ‭3:1-4‬ ‭KJV‬‬

 

[Jackson123]

“If ye then be risen with Christ, seek those things which are above, where Christ sitteth on the right hand of God. Set your affection on things above, not on things on the earth.

For ye are dead, and your life is hid with Christ in God. When Christ, who is our life, shall appear, then shall ye also appear with him in glory.”
‭‭Colossians‬ ‭3:1-4‬ ‭KJV‬‬

Amen
Paul know how to compare which one he focus
I live in simple house if rich offer me million dollar house for free I say yes I am not cry and make any delay I want it now

Heaven is million time more than our house if Jesus you can have it now why we cry?

 

[Pilgrimshope]

Amen
Paul know how to compare which one he focus
I live in simple house if rich offer me million dollar house for free I say yes I am not cry and make any delay I want it now

Heaven is million time more than our house if Jesus you can have it now why we cry?

yes where we are looking with our hope is important because of this part

“Love not the world, neither the things that are in the world. If any man love the world, the love of the Father is not in him.

For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world.

And the world passeth away, and the lust thereof: but he that doeth the will of God abideth for ever.”
‭‭1 John‬ ‭2:15-17‬ ‭

when Jesus came he made clear that mankind’s judgement and heart has been corrupted to seek after the worldly things and he taught how backwards we really are

“And he said unto them, Ye are they which justify yourselves before men; but God knoweth your hearts: for that which is highly esteemed among men is abomination in the sight of God.”
‭‭Luke‬ ‭16:15‬ ‭KJV‬‬

the thkngs normal man seeks after and desires what we think is to be highly esteemed , money , popularity , the places of honor at the table , self accomplishment and self exaltation we want others to think we are really something we want lord of
Money for security ect

but those things are of the world and contrary and offensive to God an abomination he said

that’s why the gospel seems so different from what we know and feel it shows us how far gone we are and don’t even know it he’s calling us to look away from the world and towards Jesus the authors of life and salvation and the king of the eternal Places and kingdom of our God

our hearts are tuned to the world and he is calling them to the promises ahead so we will Live for the truth and not the strong delusion in the world

the gospel turns our eyes and hearts to God and his kingdom of eternal joy and peace as we live in this world we should be looking here

“But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.

Seeing then that all these things shall be dissolved, what manner of persons ought ye to be in all holy conversation and godliness, Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat?

Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness.

Wherefore, beloved, seeing that ye look for such things, be diligent that ye may be found of him in peace, without spot, and blameless. And account that the longsuffering of our Lord is salvation; even as our beloved brother Paul also according to the wisdom given unto him hath written unto you;”
‭‭2 Peter‬ ‭3:10-15‬ ‭KJV‬‬

it’s hard to repent until we start hearing about the worlds corruption and our perfect home ahead

 

[inukubo]

Because in this life we have the privilege of representing Christ and bringing others to Him. We can no longer do that in Heaven.

 

[Jackson123]

Love not the world, neither the things that are in the world. If any man love the world, the love of the Father is not in him.

I my self some time think money is blessing
Love of money is root all evil but I am still learn not love money

Easier for camel into the eye of the nidle and often time I want to be rich

Pride of life is not easy to eliminate, some time I am thinking and pondering the reason God not make me rich is to make me easier to go to heaven

 

[Jackson123]

Because in this life we have the privilege of representing Christ and bringing others to Him. We can no longer do that in Heaven.

That is good reason but it is great sacrifice
Imagine you delay to life in the mansion million time better than White House for 20 years to make yourself a viable to help other go to heaven

 

[tourist]

Amen
Paul know how to compare which one he focus
I live in simple house if rich offer me million dollar house for free I say yes I am not cry and make any delay I want it now

Heaven is million time more than our house if Jesus you can have it now why we cry?

Jesus wept at the death of Lazarus even though He was going to raise him from the dead a minute later because at that moment His friend was dead and not with him.

 

[tourist]

That is good reason but it is great sacrifice
Imagine you delay to life in the mansion million time better than White House for 20 years to make yourself a viable to help other go to heaven

That's what it's all about brother.

 

[Pilgrimshope]

I my self some time think money is blessing
Love of money is root all evil but I am still learn not love money

Easier for camel into the eye of the nidle and often time I want to be rich

Pride of life is not easy to eliminate, some time I am thinking and pondering the reason God not make me rich is to make me easier to go to heaven

money isn’t evil but it brings many temptations with it and also with wealth comes the responsibility to use it for others as well as our own desires

Contentment without or with

“And having food and raiment let us be therewith content. But they that will be rich fall into temptation and a snare, and into many foolish and hurtful lusts, which drown men in destruction and perdition.”
‭‭1 Timothy‬ ‭6:8-9‬ ‭KJV‬‬

Money itself is inanimate can be used by man for good or evil but also it comes with the commandment to share with the needy who have too little

If we have much it becomes a test of how we manage it if we’re self centered and it’s all about our want , we’re going to fall into temptation but if our possessions belong to God and we care for others from our blessing we are going to be blessed having been generous with his stewardship of mammon .

if we let Christ make us faithful we will be able to handle wealth if we are after the wealth we’re misguided

“If therefore ye have not been faithful in the unrighteous mammon, who will commit to your trust the true riches?”
‭‭Luke‬ ‭16:11‬ ‭KJV‬‬

 

[Pilgrimshope]

Jesus wept at the death of Lazarus even though He was going to raise him from the dead a minute later because at that moment His friend was dead and not with him.

yes it was required that he experience everything we do in life to be our high priest

 

[Jackson123]

Jesus wept at the death of Lazarus even though He was going to raise him from the dead a minute later because at that moment His friend was dead and not with him.

It may because his death will bring some go to hell
Lazarus may use his live to help other know Jesus and save
Jesus know his death mean move to heaven why He cry ? Lazarus go to better place He know for sure It must make Hom happy
Just my speculation Jesus not cry for Lazarus go to heaven He may cry for some lost soul as a result of the death of lazarus

 

[Jackson123]

How about turning the table on the Muslim? Ask them if they mourn when a fellow Muslim dies. And how they feel about Yawm al-din .

Muslim not sure will go to heaven
They believe God will weigh good thing we do vs bad thing so it is reasonable to wept

 

[presidente]

Ex Muslim give testimony, she was duisgnose with stadium 4 cancer. Her friend is also ex Muslim now Christian preacher
She call her old friend that she was very sick in the hospital. Her friend told her to wake up and come to his house in Jesus name she did and baptized the next day after hours of bible study
It was in life stream YouTube. Than Muslim caller ask question, if you so sure will go to heaven when you die, why pray for healing why not pray to die as soon as posible?

I think This question is also our question what do you think?

I suppose it depends on the individual. I'd change that to 'if you are so sure you will obtain a good resurrection at the end of the age, why pray for healing...'


There are different reasons for different people. I have children. I would like to do more with this life in terms of ministering to others, etc. The Bible also instructs 'Is there any sick among you? Let him call for the elders of the church..."