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Why do you concern about others, is CHRIST


My only concern here, is what it always is. You should only insist of others what you are actually able to attain to in your own life, otherwise you are being Phariseeical. That crushes the sincere who would believe you
 
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My only concern here, is what it always is. You should only insist of others what you are actually able to attain to in your own life, otherwise you are being Phariseeical. That crushes the sincere who would believe you
Even the people of the 'pattern of this world' are hypocritically 'sincere' too to one another, who 'bitterly' do not really believe and like in the 'hard like fire' CHRIST for GOD, in words of HIS conditional 'conviction', given for one's good growth blessings, in order for that person to turn back in 'shame' and repentance while they can.

But they would rather 'gladly' love and remain in the 'soft like a teddy bear' CHRIST for GOD, in words of HIS unconditional 'love' and 'kindness' and 'forgiveness', where 'sinners of CHRIST have something in common because of GOD's love with the sinners of this world and can be 'equally yoked' together in 'one house', where they are able to give 'comforting words' to one another like;

"It is okay to be where we are, and GOD understands and loves you unconditionally and moreover HIS Grace shall abound in us greatly, being in our 'imperfection' ".

As a witness to the New Covenant, i am sorry to say but i have to say this as a 'true' friend, with no deceit, that one's concerns can come also from a deceitful heart of carnal/flesh love for others and not from the Heart of GOD's 'AGAPE', the written concerns for others to be 'built up' in the New Covenant.

For example, for 'ignorant some', black is and can be white and vice versa white and black. But for the Kingdom of GOD, CHRIST will only say to all believers tas these;

'You are neither 'hot' nor 'cold' but 'lukewarm', for I will 'spit you out'."

"Your sins are forgiven thee, sin no more or something worst will happen to you."

"Oh ye of 'little faith' how much longer must I be with you and how much longer must I put up with you?"

"I speak what I see with the FATHER and you do what your father tells you to do."

"Why do you not understand what I say? It is because you cannot bear to hear my word. You are of your father the devil and you will is to do your father's desires, He was a murderer from the beginning and has nothing to do with the truth, because there is no truth in him, When he lies, he speaks out of his own character, for he is a liar and the father of lies, But because I tell the truth, you do not believe me. Which one of you convicts me of sin? If I tell the truth, why do you not believe Me? Whoever is of GOD hears the words of GOD, The reason why you do not hear them is that you are not of GOD."

"Truly, truly I say to you, if anyone who keeps my word, he will never see death."


Please stop the hypocritical 'concerns' for others, for the written New Covenant 'insists' all of these that i have been guided to share, in all of us who say they 'believe' in CHRIST.

Who am i to 'believe' in, who is only an unworthy servant of CHRIST and CHRIST is actually the 'author' with the HOLY SPIRIT and teacher of the HOLY BIBLE gave them also in 'conviction' those who remain in sins.

What i have 'attain' in life was Salvation of GOD and the gifts of the HOLY SPIRIT in 'prophesying', but submission and obedience to the Word of the New Covenant in knowledge, i am called by CHRIST, to put them into 'practice' and deny 'self' and 'carry your own cross'.

Please let the FATHER of our LORD JESUS CHRIST 'judge' who is the 'Phariseeical prince'.

Anyway thank you for your 'self' concerns but no thank you, i cannot 'keep' them, for they are not of CHRIST of the New Covenant..
 

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Do you know the 'definition' of carrying each others burdens?
The Lord Jesus carries our burdens, in that He has taken our sin and shame for us and has presented us to the Father blameless.

The least we can do, in recognition of that, is to carry each others burdens, love each other as He loves us.

If you know that your Master carries heavy burdens wouldn't you want to show people that's what He does? Out of Love?

I think that is what Michael56 is trying to show the lawyers, is that they don't have to carry those stone tablets around anymore. They were always too heavy anyway...
 
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Even the people of the 'pattern of this world' are hypocritically 'sincere' too to one another, who 'bitterly' do not really believe and like in the 'hard like fire' CHRIST for GOD, in words of HIS conditional 'conviction', given for one's good growth blessings, in order for that person to turn back in 'shame' and repentance while they can.

But they would rather 'gladly' love and remain in the 'soft like a teddy bear' CHRIST for GOD, in words of HIS unconditional 'love' and 'kindness' and 'forgiveness', where 'sinners of CHRIST have something in common because of GOD's love with the sinners of this world and can be 'equally yoked' together in 'one house', where they are able to give 'comforting words' to one another like;

"It is okay to be where we are, and GOD understands and loves you unconditionally and moreover HIS Grace shall abound in us greatly, being in our 'imperfection' ".

As a witness to the New Covenant, i am sorry to say but i have to say this as a 'true' friend, with no deceit, that one's concerns can come also from a deceitful heart of carnal/flesh love for others and not from the Heart of GOD's 'AGAPE', the written concerns for others to be 'built up' in the New Covenant.

For example, for 'ignorant some', black is and can be white and vice versa white and black. But for the Kingdom of GOD, CHRIST will only say to all believers tas these;

'You are neither 'hot' nor 'cold' but 'lukewarm', for I will 'spit you out'."

"Your sins are forgiven thee, sin no more or something worst will happen to you."

"Oh ye of 'little faith' how much longer must I be with you and how much longer must I put up with you?"

"I speak what I see with the FATHER and you do what your father tells you to do."

"Why do you not understand what I say? It is because you cannot bear to hear my word. You are of your father the devil and you will is to do your father's desires, He was a murderer from the beginning and has nothing to do with the truth, because there is no truth in him, When he lies, he speaks out of his own character, for he is a liar and the father of lies, But because I tell the truth, you do not believe me. Which one of you convicts me of sin? If I tell the truth, why do you not believe Me? Whoever is of GOD hears the words of GOD, The reason why you do not hear them is that you are not of GOD."

"Truly, truly I say to you, if anyone who keeps my word, he will never see death."


Please stop the hypocritical 'concerns' for others, for the written New Covenant 'insists' all of these that i have been guided to share, in all of us who say they 'believe' in CHRIST.

Who am i to 'believe' in, who is only an unworthy servant of CHRIST and CHRIST is actually the 'author' with the HOLY SPIRIT and teacher of the HOLY BIBLE gave them also in 'conviction' those who remain in sins.

What i have 'attain' in life was Salvation of GOD and the gifts of the HOLY SPIRIT in 'prophesying', but submission and obedience to the Word of the New Covenant in knowledge, i am called by CHRIST, to put them into 'practice' and deny 'self' and 'carry your own cross'.

Please let the FATHER of our LORD JESUS CHRIST 'judge' who is the 'Phariseeical prince'.

Anyway thank you for your 'self' concerns but no thank you, i cannot 'keep' them, for they are not of CHRIST of the New Covenant..
I notice you cannot answer the question put to you, just attack me personally. I guess that is the best way to deflect from answering.

The truth is, Jesus died for all a converts sins, past, present and future. If you are a witness to the new covenant you will witness to that fact. You will also know why that is not a licence to sin under the new covenant.

Reading your post makes it easy to understand sadly why so many sincere of heart people feel shut out of the kingdom of Heaven. Obedience comes by faith, not striving to obey the literal letter of comandments
 
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As it is written;

"GOD will send a strong delusion to those who have not welcome the Gospel."

"The road that leads to the Kingdom is narrow and very difficult to follow and only a few will make it."

"Many are called but only a few are chosen."

"But woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you shut the Kingdom of Heaven in people's faces. For you neither enter yourselves nor allow those who would enter to go in."
 
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As it is written;

"GOD will send a strong delusion to those who have not welcome the Gospel."

"The road that leads to the Kingdom is narrow and very difficult to follow and only a few will make it."

"Many are called but only a few are chosen."

"But woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you shut the Kingdom of Heaven in people's faces. For you neither enter yourselves nor allow those who would enter to go in."

The teachers of the law and the Pharisees sit in Moses’ seat. [SUP]3 [/SUP]So you must be careful to do everything they tell you. But do not do what they do, for they do not practice what they preach. Matt23:2&3

Then they asked him, “What must we do to do the works God requires?”[SUP]29 [/SUP]Jesus answered,
“The work of God is this: to believe in the one he has sent.” John 6:28&29


What shall we say then? Is the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, Thou shalt not covet.
[SUP]8 [/SUP]But sin, taking occasion by the commandment, wrought in me all manner of concupiscence. For without the law sin was dead.
[SUP]9 [/SUP]For I was alive without the law once: but when the commandment came, sin revived, and I died.
[SUP]10 [/SUP]And the commandment, which was ordained to life, I found to be unto death.
[SUP]11 [/SUP]For sin, taking occasion by the commandment, deceived me, and by it slew me. Rom 7:7-11

It does not, therefore, depend on human desire or effort, but on God’s mercy Rom 9:16
What then shall we say? That the Gentiles, who did not pursue righteousness, have obtained it, a righteousness that is by faith; [SUP]31 [/SUP]but the people of Israel, who pursued the law as the way of righteousness, have not attained their goal. [SUP]32 [/SUP]Why not? Because they pursued it not by faith but as if it were by works Rom 9:30-32


For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth Rom 10:4

[SUP]14 [/SUP]For the entire law is fulfilled in keeping this one command: “Love your neighbor as yourself. Gal5:14

Carry each other’s burdens, and in this way you will fulfill the law of Christ Gal6:2

For it is we who are the circumcision, we who serve God by his Spirit, who boast in Christ Jesus, and who put no confidence in the flesh Phil 3:3

not having a righteousness of my own that comes from the law, but that which is through faith in[SUP][a][/SUP] Christ—the righteousness that comes from God on the basis of faith Phil3:9

Through him we received grace and apostleship to call all the Gentiles to the obedience that comes from[SUP][c][/SUP] faith for his name’s sake Rom 1:5

For in the gospel the righteousness of God is revealed—a righteousness that is by faith from first to last,[SUP][e][/SUP] just as it is written: “The righteous will live by faith Rom 1:17

[SUP] [/SUP]For all who rely on the works of the law are under a curse, as it is written: “Cursed is everyone who does not continue to do everything written in the Book of the Law.”[SUP][e][/SUP] [SUP]11 [/SUP]Clearly no one who relies on the law is justified before God, because “the righteous will live by faith Gal3:10&11
 
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The teachers of the law and the Pharisees sit in Moses’ seat. [SUP]3 [/SUP]So you must be careful to do everything they tell you. But do not do what they do, for they do not practice what they preach. Matt23:2&3

Then they asked him, “What must we do to do the works God requires?”[SUP]29 [/SUP]Jesus answered,
“The work of God is this: to believe in the one he has sent.” John 6:28&29


What shall we say then? Is the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, Thou shalt not covet.
[SUP]8 [/SUP]But sin, taking occasion by the commandment, wrought in me all manner of concupiscence. For without the law sin was dead.
[SUP]9 [/SUP]For I was alive without the law once: but when the commandment came, sin revived, and I died.
[SUP]10 [/SUP]And the commandment, which was ordained to life, I found to be unto death.
[SUP]11 [/SUP]For sin, taking occasion by the commandment, deceived me, and by it slew me. Rom 7:7-11

It does not, therefore, depend on human desire or effort, but on God’s mercy Rom 9:16
What then shall we say? That the Gentiles, who did not pursue righteousness, have obtained it, a righteousness that is by faith; [SUP]31 [/SUP]but the people of Israel, who pursued the law as the way of righteousness, have not attained their goal. [SUP]32 [/SUP]Why not? Because they pursued it not by faith but as if it were by works Rom 9:30-32


For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth Rom 10:4

[SUP]14 [/SUP]For the entire law is fulfilled in keeping this one command: “Love your neighbor as yourself. Gal5:14

Carry each other’s burdens, and in this way you will fulfill the law of Christ Gal6:2

For it is we who are the circumcision, we who serve God by his Spirit, who boast in Christ Jesus, and who put no confidence in the flesh Phil 3:3

not having a righteousness of my own that comes from the law, but that which is through faith in[SUP][a][/SUP] Christ—the righteousness that comes from God on the basis of faith Phil3:9

Through him we received grace and apostleship to call all the Gentiles to the obedience that comes from[SUP][c][/SUP] faith for his name’s sake Rom 1:5

For in the gospel the righteousness of God is revealed—a righteousness that is by faith from first to last,[SUP][e][/SUP] just as it is written: “The righteous will live by faith Rom 1:17

For all who rely on the works of the law are under a curse, as it is written: “Cursed is everyone who does not continue to do everything written in the Book of the Law.”[SUP][e][/SUP] [SUP]11 [/SUP]Clearly no one who relies on the law is justified before God, because “the righteous will live by faith Gal3:10&11
Mr wise 'guy' of the flesh/carnal and it's 'passions' and 'desires', need to 'become foolish first according to the HOLY BIBLE whole Scripture, in order to become wise to them that is written', that what you have quoted in 'self' thinking and opinion interpretation, only 'opposes' the written sound doctrine Spiritual knowledge of the New Covenant of GOD through CHRIST and the HOLY SPIRIT, words of 'spirit' and 'life' 'believe' and 'practices'.

You and others with you, who are in 'ignorant deception blindness of carnal/flesh 'corruption' continuation, like a true Pharisee of the Old', remain still 'bound' as babes in CHRIST again in carnal/flesh and therefore so called in 'self' proclaimed and interpretation 'faith' using partial Holy Scripture, 'picked' and 'choose' to suit 'imperfection', only 'fooling' one 'self' and those who are 'weak' with you, to 'testify' 'boldly' that the teaching of the New Covenant, is of the 'Pharisees' and is the 'seat of Moses' given even today, that we are 'insisting' and 'imposing' on others?

Or 'wisely' testify, is the word/teaching of CHRIST of 'spirit' and 'life' of the New Covenant, that even Moses himself of the Old Covenant in that given 'seat' that day before leaving the earth, Himself proclaimed and say to the 'redeemed' people of Israel and in 'reminder', in 'Deuteronomy'; 'of a 'Prophet of GOD to come among you, that all of you will have to listen to HIM and those who do not, GOD will require of them'?

i feel sorry for you and others with you in the name of LORD JESUS CHRIST, who is boldly testifying in 'vain interpretation' of carnal/flesh deception about what is made 'Spiritual' to spiritual discerning people of the written New Covenant.
 
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Mr wise 'guy' of the flesh/carnal and it's 'passions' and 'desires', need to 'become foolish first according to the HOLY BIBLE whole Scripture, in order to become wise to them that is written', that what you have quoted in 'self' thinking and opinion interpretation, only 'opposes' the written sound doctrine Spiritual knowledge of the New Covenant of GOD through CHRIST and the HOLY SPIRIT, words of 'spirit' and 'life' 'believe' and 'practices'.

You and others with you, who are in 'ignorant deception blindness of carnal/flesh 'corruption' continuation, like a true Pharisee of the Old', remain still 'bound' as babes in CHRIST again in carnal/flesh and therefore so called in 'self' proclaimed and interpretation 'faith' using partial Holy Scripture, 'picked' and 'choose' to suit 'imperfection', only 'fooling' one 'self' and those who are 'weak' with you, to 'testify' 'boldly' that the teaching of the New Covenant, is of the 'Pharisees' and is the 'seat of Moses' given even today?

Or 'wisely' testify, is the word/teaching of CHRIST of 'spirit' and 'life' of the New Covenant, that even Moses himself of the Old Covenant in that given 'seat' that day before leaving the earth, Himself proclaimed and say to the 'redeemed' people of Israel and in 'reminder', in 'Deuteronomy'; 'of a 'Prophet of GOD to come among you, that all of you will have to listen to HIM and those who do not, GOD will require of them'?

i feel sorry for you and others with you in the name of LORD JESUS CHRIST, who is boldly testifying in 'vain interpretation' of carnal/flesh deception about what is made 'Spiritual' to spiritual discerning people of the written New Covenant.

A perfect example of a legalist. Quote the letter, show a judgemental attitude and lack the love.
 
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A perfect example of a legalist. Quote the letter, show a judgemental attitude and lack the love.
That 'legalist' you have judge boldly, is CHRIST of the written New Covenant, who have given us the HOLY BIBLE and the HOLY SPIRIT to 'abide'.
 
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That 'legalist' you have judge boldly, is CHRIST of the written New Covenant, who have given us the HOLY BIBLE and the HOLY SPIRIT to 'abide'.
As it is written for HIS disciples and followers of the New Covenant that;

"You cannot give what is 'Good' and 'Holy' to 'dogs', for it will turn around and 'bite' you."

This is what the true 'lambs' and 'sheep' of the New Covenant of GOD in CHRIST are 'witnessing' today, carnal/flesh 'hypocrisy and deception interpretation of self faith'.
 
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As it is written for HIS disciples and followers of the New Covenant that;

"You cannot give what is 'Good' and 'Holy' to 'dogs', for it will turn around and 'bite' you."

This is what the true 'lambs' and 'sheep' of the New Covenant of GOD in CHRIST are 'witnessing' today, carnal/flesh 'hypocrisy and deception interpretation of self faith'.
Yes we can see that :)
 
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That 'legalist' you have judge boldly, is CHRIST of the written New Covenant, who have given us the HOLY BIBLE and the HOLY SPIRIT to 'abide'.
No, actually, that legalist he judged boldly was you.
 
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No, actually, that legalist he judged boldly was you.
Yes i am not at all surprise, for i have been prepared ahead of time, even before the foundation of this world, that there is a whole 'bunch' of 'yous', as those CHRIST JESUS had to deal with HIS days and now. A generation in lineage of 'whitewashed' imposters, in their fine sheep 'robes', who only 'strain out' a small 'fly' for GOD, while they gobble a 'camel' and in disguise as sheep. They are but have already been exposed by GOD's Word, as 'raven wolves' on the inside, who have not come through the 'gate', but have climb over the 'fence', to devour the written truth LEGALIST's and in all of them founded lambs and sheep practitioners, by first 'leading' them 'astray' in sweet testimony of a 'twisted short cut summarised version', 'bits and pieces' taken out from HIS 'original' written in 'whole' and given version of the HOLY BIBLE, which was initially taught by the HOLY SPIRIT since during youth.

i have been taught well and to share with Grace and Truth founded lambs and sheep how to distinguish between the 'spirit of error' and the 'spirit of Truth', exposing 'disguised' 'yous' and how 'sleek' yous also 'smoothly operate' amongst and midst, by that same Grace and Truth 'Redeemer' and 'Rabboni' and 'LEGALIST' of the HOLY BIBLE, who gave them all as HIS FATHER's 'legalism' of the New Covenant that came from Heaven 'Covenant orders', in the first place to it's newly redeemed citizens and until today is still at hand to 'believe' and 'practice', and is 'by far' Superior than any other and not to be 'reckon with' nor be 'deceived' to compromise by any of them 'shortsighted imposters'.

i have been taught by my Rabboni and MASTER and KING, how these 'blind guides' work as 'hypocrites' and are 'brood of vipers', the 'ones' who are in 'disguise' in 'sheep clothing', 'insisting' and 'imposing' on others their 'twisted version'. They love to remain in their boasted imperfection unshamefully and excusing one another, both remain in bondage, still in mortal corrupted carnal/flesh mind and thinking, and meantime testify their version of the Gospel and judge accordingly to them, being 'shortsighted' and not been able to see 'afar'. They are even not able to perceiving truthfully actually who is the True New Covenant Grace and Truth 'LEGALIST' who have come and gone, who have been called as Israel's promised 'RABBONI' of 'GOD's Spiritual legalism' from Heaven, given to HIS taught faithful ones as disciples and followers, who they 'shortsightedly' come against and oppose, and even 'shortsightedly' 'target' them, HIS chosen 'vessels' and they even 'shortsightedly' judge according to 'appearances' and not by what is right.

Their MASTER, HE wisely from the beginning have stored these, 'HIS FATHER's New and Old Treasures' inside these 'washed earthen vessels' and times HE made to manifest 'in full context' their 'qualities', in order 'HIS FATHER'S Treasures', all to be witnessed which from the beginning remain the same 'genuine', and still 'stands out' complete from the incomplete 'fake' ones amongst in display.

As it is written;

"Do not judge by appearances but judge by what is right."

GOD bless you in the name of LORD JESUS CHRIST.
 
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That 'legalist' you have judge boldly, is CHRIST of the written New Covenant, who have given us the HOLY BIBLE and the HOLY SPIRIT to 'abide'.
Oh no, Jesus was not a legalist. He said the law hung on two commandments. Love God with all your heart, body, mind and soul, and love others as yourself. Jesus teaching can be summed up as examples of love God and love your neighbour. Paul knew that:

Let no debt remain outstanding, except the continuing debt to love one another, for whoever loves others has fulfilled the law. [SUP]9 [/SUP]The commandments, “You shall not commit adultery,” “You shall not murder,” “You shall not steal,” “You shall not covet,”[SUP][a][/SUP] and whatever other command there may be, are summed up in this one command: “Love your neighbor as yourself.”[SUP][b][/SUP] [SUP]10 [/SUP]Love does no harm to a neighbor. Therefore love is the fulfillment of the law. R 13:8-10

The only thing that counts is faith expressing itself through love. Gal5:6

Carry each others burdens(show love to them) and in this way you will fulfil the law of Christ Gal 6:2


Sadly, many do not understand this. Instead of viewing Christ's commands through a central theme of examples of loving God and loving others, they strive(or say they do) to obeying each and every literal command, and they insist others must also or they are opposing Christ. The problem is they are then demanding of others what they fail to achieve in their own lives. They then have to become somewhat hardnosed, for they know they cannot live up to the standard they have convinced themselves they must live by.
The Pharisees of Jesus day had the same problem. They fixated on the literal letter, without understanding the heart of the message that letter contained. The problem with doing this is you must then neglect what Christ said were the higher points of the law. Justice, mercy, faithfulness, compassion and of course love. Your recent posts do not appear to show any of those attributes in them

The true circumcision: worship by the spirit of God, they glory in Christ Jesus and put no confidence in the flesh(themselves) Phil 3:3. That is hard to do when you are striving to attain to what you do not/cannot attain to
 
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If you want victory and to grow strong then yes keep reading the commandments There Gods words they can do you no harm but only help you, The ten Commandments are very important!
 
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James 2: 8

If you really keep the royal law found in the scripture.* "Love your neighbour as yourself,"** you are doing ŕight "but if you show favouritism, you sin and are, convicted by the law as law breakers. For whoever keeps the whole law and yet stumble at just one point is quilt of breaking g all of it
Speak and act as those who are going to be judge by the law that gives freedom
 
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Oh no, Jesus was not a legalist. He said the law hung on two commandments. Love God with all your heart, body, mind and soul, and love others as yourself. Jesus teaching can be summed up as examples of love God and love your neighbour. Paul knew that:

Let no debt remain outstanding, except the continuing debt to love one another, for whoever loves others has fulfilled the law. [SUP]9 [/SUP]The commandments, “You shall not commit adultery,” “You shall not murder,” “You shall not steal,” “You shall not covet,”[SUP][a][/SUP] and whatever other command there may be, are summed up in this one command: “Love your neighbor as yourself.”[SUP][b][/SUP] [SUP]10 [/SUP]Love does no harm to a neighbor. Therefore love is the fulfillment of the law. R 13:8-10

The only thing that counts is faith expressing itself through love. Gal5:6

Carry each others burdens(show love to them) and in this way you will fulfil the law of Christ Gal 6:2


Sadly, many do not understand this. Instead of viewing Christ's commands through a central theme of examples of loving God and loving others, they strive(or say they do) to obeying each and every literal command, and they insist others must also or they are opposing Christ. The problem is they are then demanding of others what they fail to achieve in their own lives. They then have to become somewhat hardnosed, for they know they cannot live up to the standard they have convinced themselves they must live by.
The Pharisees of Jesus day had the same problem. They fixated on the literal letter, without understanding the heart of the message that letter contained. The problem with doing this is you must then neglect what Christ said were the higher points of the law. Justice, mercy, faithfulness, compassion and of course love. Your recent posts do not appear to show any of those attributes in them

The true circumcision: worship by the spirit of God, they glory in Christ Jesus and put no confidence in the flesh(themselves) Phil 3:3. That is hard to do when you are striving to attain to what you do not/cannot attain to
Oh no, pick and choose hypocrites who have gone ahead of CHRIST's teachings written in the Gospels, from Matthew chapter 5 onwards, who is the true breather of words/teaching of 'spirit' and 'life' about AGAPE, to those who have been born from above. And when they continue with CHRIST's AGAPE teaching kingdom knowledge as disciples and followers, even in 'practices' with HIM and the HOLY SPIRIT, they later discover towards the ending part of the Gospel, CHRIST then sum them up and gave them these two commandments. Meaning that all HIS word/teaching of GOD's love written in the New Covenant from Matthew chapter 5 onwards, are which were actually made out and given from these same Two Commandments.

This is the same, as reference written in the Old, was done by the same GOD through HIS servant Moses, where the Law and the Prophets' were made out and given from these Two Commandments as well.

These people do not truly believe in all of CHRIST's teaching or have them or workout using them. CHRIST's teaching is that actual 'AGAPE', the teaching/word came from above, taught and given and also their called 'practices', were actually also made out and given from these same Two Commandments. But sadly majority, those who have not add/supplement to their faith, are 'shortsighted' to perceive them, They therefore have gone ahead by not 'abiding'/'continuing'/keeping' in CHRIST's teaching/word of the New Covenant and are at work here being 'shortsighted' therefore deceiving also others, to follow them instead, who have decided to know better by pick and choose Holy Scriptures for that season, how to love others better than even CHRIST's teaching/word.

Oh no sadly again they are 'shortsightedly' ignorant that even sinners love each other and even the world loves it's own too.

Oh no finally, sadly these people have gone ahead of CHRIST.s teaching/word and the Apostles and soon they are going to be 'shipwrecked' or 'fallen into a ditch'.

May GOD the FATHER of our LORD JESUS CHRIST forgive them and help them know through CHRIST's teaching/word 'spirit' and 'life' Kingdom, how to 'add/supplement to their faith'.
 
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My only concern here, is what it always is. You should only insist of others what you are actually able to attain to in your own life, otherwise you are being Phariseeical. That crushes the sincere who would believe you
Actually, what I think we should do is live up to the standard Christ set, not one that we can set...

1Co 11:1 Be ye followers of me, even as I also am of Christ.

1Pe 2:21 For even hereunto were ye called: because Christ also suffered for us, leaving us an example, that ye should follow his steps:
 

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Oh no, Jesus was not a legalist. He said the law hung on two commandments. Love God with all your heart, body, mind and soul, and love others as yourself. Jesus teaching can be summed up as examples of love God and love your neighbour. Paul knew that:

Let no debt remain outstanding, except the continuing debt to love one another, for whoever loves others has fulfilled the law. [SUP]9 [/SUP]The commandments, “You shall not commit adultery,” “You shall not murder,” “You shall not steal,” “You shall not covet,”[SUP][a][/SUP] and whatever other command there may be, are summed up in this one command: “Love your neighbor as yourself.”[SUP][b][/SUP] [SUP]10 [/SUP]Love does no harm to a neighbor. Therefore love is the fulfillment of the law. R 13:8-10

The only thing that counts is faith expressing itself through love. Gal5:6

Carry each others burdens(show love to them) and in this way you will fulfil the law of Christ Gal 6:2


Sadly, many do not understand this. Instead of viewing Christ's commands through a central theme of examples of loving God and loving others, they strive(or say they do) to obeying each and every literal command, and they insist others must also or they are opposing Christ. The problem is they are then demanding of others what they fail to achieve in their own lives. They then have to become somewhat hardnosed, for they know they cannot live up to the standard they have convinced themselves they must live by.
The Pharisees of Jesus day had the same problem. They fixated on the literal letter, without understanding the heart of the message that letter contained. The problem with doing this is you must then neglect what Christ said were the higher points of the law. Justice, mercy, faithfulness, compassion and of course love. Your recent posts do not appear to show any of those attributes in them

The true circumcision: worship by the spirit of God, they glory in Christ Jesus and put no confidence in the flesh(themselves) Phil 3:3. That is hard to do when you are striving to attain to what you do not/cannot attain to
Are you talking about the Christ who said this?

Mat 5:18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.
Mat 5:19 Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.

And this?

Mat 19:17 And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments.

And this?

Mat 23:2 Saying, The scribes and the Pharisees sit in Moses' seat:
Mat 23:3 All therefore whatsoever they bid you observe, that observe and do; but do not ye after their works: for they say, and do not.