my brother became a Mormon and my mom is freaking out

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miknik5

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jaybird88 said:
there were crowds that followed Jesus that believed He was a prophet. the bible called them believers. I think you focus to much on trying to define who Jesus was missing all those lessons He taught.
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Actually that is the issue

HE did say Who do the people say I am
but after Peters confession, HE said (upon that true confession) HE would build HIS CHURCH

And HE is
 
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We aren't supposed to be altering THE TRUTH nor are we supposed to be teaching "another truth"

because there is only ONE TRUTH and ONE TESTIMONY

The apostles were able to discern TRUTH because they were led by THE SPIRIT who leads us to ALL TRUTH

When someone comes (Joseph smith) bringing something other than the foundational teachings

it is to be discarded (not adopted) and clearly identified for what it is
additives: yeast - the suggestions additions imaginings ideas of men
 
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Nevertheless the foundation of God standeth sure, having this seal, The Lord knoweth them that are his. And, Let every one that nameth the name of Christ depart from iniquity.

lol how am i conned when i made clear that i read the book myself ? an should have added prayerfully read it?

im assuming catholics also dont believe in the same God because the life mary up and have the blessed mother prayer?

listen carefully. it is not for any Human on earth to decide whos accepted of God, and you are maybe judging form things you have heard rather than from one who read the bom, not sure really, but first, the kjv bible is a part of mormon doctrine, they believe the Law was fulfilled in Jesus and the gospel is our way. they believe in repentance of sin, they believe in following the word of Jesus Christ as He set forth in the gospel.

now, that being said, i dont have agreement on sertain things at all, which is why i made clear, no one should go convert to mormonism, nor would i ever. but i wouldnt convert to catholosism i would never follow such a teacher as joseph prince wither, never would convert to many different sects and denominations. the Only "True church" are those who truly put faith in Jesus, repent of sin, and follow the things taught in the Bibles new testament.

any man made doctrine is off the mark, doesnt matter who is making it or what they call it. what im saying is we cant judge anything until we go do the study and compare it to the Holy bible. I did so, and found it to be not at all opposite, but very much in Line with scripture. anyone who knows me well in these forums Know where my Life is, and what Book i trust in, and its not the bom, its the Word of God, the Bible.

there are alot of things that arent written though, Jesus is not able to be limited but By His own enduring word. If Ive been " Conned" it is by the words in the gospel of the Kingdom of God, according to matthew, mark, Luke and John.

thats the reason i sat and discussed with them, because ive met mormons and they are great people. and when you sit and talk with them awhile, all they talk about is Jesus, and they have good understanding of the 4 gospels, the only real difference is that the doctrine and covenants are based on Joseph smitths prophecies, which may be a real thing, but they arent for me because i have what i need with Faith In Jesus Christ and His word, supported fully and completely by the Bible.

God bless buddy
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What I meant was, that you've been conned by the Mormons, if you believe they are following the same Jesus that we are.

They have taken the Bible, and added so much to it that it has become a completely different belief system.

As someone else has mentioned, even demons can quote scripture. We need to discern between what is of God, and what is a distortion of God.

Muslims say they worship "God", calling Him Allah, but the god they worship has very few of the characteristics of the one true God. If you believe what they say, you will be conned by them as well...... we are called to test what others preach against scripture, not what we think.
 
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Pr 22:6 Train up a child in the way he should go: and when he is old, he will not depart from it.

For the cause of Christ
Roger
 
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I think they probably do believe in God.
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But do not believe that HE had the power to lay down the life and take it up again

if they did, they wouldn't be celebrating a memorial to HIS death but would be celebrating THE PASSOVER keeping in mind that HE entered in for us and we enter in by the TRUE VEIL hidden/ covered over in HIS COVERING and kept to the day of redemption
 
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While we're at it let's not forget Joseph Smith was a Freemason & incorporated a great deal of Freemasonry into his belief system.

This continued long after Smith was gone because we can see Masonic symbols in the headquarters in Utah, which are also luciferian:


 
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miknik5 said:
Actually that is the issue

HE did say Who do the people say I am
but after Peters confession, HE said (upon that true confession) HE would build HIS CHURCH

And HE is
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Peter answered "the Christ" the problem is every group has a different definition of "the Christ".
 
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miknik5 said:
But do not believe that HE had the power to lay down the life and take it up again

if they did, they wouldn't be celebrating a memorial to HIS death but would be celebrating THE PASSOVER keeping in mind that HE entered in for us and we enter in by the TRUE VEIL hidden/ covered over in HIS COVERING and kept to the day of redemption
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Do you consider Jews to be Atheists also?
 
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Peter answered "the Christ" the problem is every group has a different definition of "the Christ".
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Yes and it changes also the understanding of HIS CHURCH...BODY...BRIDE
 
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What did CHRIST mean when HE said
Tear down this temple and I in three days I will build it up
 
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If anyone is in CHRIST he is a NEW CREATION

But not all are in HIM
 
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miknik5 said:
Please don't add anything to what I have said


we see only ONE TRUTH:

those inside THE DOOR

And those outside
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I am no expert on Mormonism, but as near as I can tell, if you love the Lord with all your heart, mind, and soul, and love your neighbor as yourself, the Lord is pleased with you, whether you're a Christian or a Mormon.
 
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resurrection33 said:
I am no expert on Mormonism, but as near as I can tell, if you love the Lord with all your heart, mind, and soul, and love your neighbor as yourself, the Lord is pleased with you, whether you're a Christian or a Mormon.
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Should we lie and be flexible about GOD's TRUTH?

Is that pleasing to GOD

And is it loving your neighbor as your soul

Who loves their brother/sister and withholds THE TRUTH?
 
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I am no expert on Mormonism, but as near as I can tell, if you love the Lord with all your heart, mind, and soul, and love your neighbor as yourself, the Lord is pleased with you, whether you're a Christian or a Mormon.
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Lots of religious groups make those claims or do those things. Takes more than that. Mormons say Jesus and Lucifer are brothers. Is that the same God as the Christian God?
 
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miknik5 said:
Should we lie and be flexible about GOD's TRUTH?

Is that pleasing to GOD

And is it loving your neighbor as your soul

Who loves their brother/sister and withholds THE TRUTH?
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I think that if we obey the Lord, the Lord will be pleased with us.
 
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Ugly said:
Lots of religious groups make those claims or do those things. Takes more than that. Mormons say Jesus and Lucifer are brothers. Is that the same God as the Christian God?
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Theology can get confusing. If you obey the Lord's commandments, I see no reason he will be displeased with you.
 
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