Peter said 'baptism now saves you...'. Do you think I am a heretic for repeating Peter's teachings?
Let's set aside your assertion there for a second, and let me ask you, did Jesus say everything in the Bible to Nicodemus? Are the parts of the New Testament that Jesus did not say to Nicodemus true?
What about Mark 16?
15 And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature.
16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.
16 Then the eleven disciples went away into Galilee, into a mountain where Jesus had appointed them.
Matthew 28
17 And when they saw him, they worshipped him: but some doubted.
18 And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth.
19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:
20 Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you always, even unto the end of the world. Amen.
Jesus has authority, and He went them with instructions to teach and to baptize. Peter was one of them. A few weeks later, he is preaching, and we read how he responds to the crowd.
Acts 2
37 Now when they heard this, they were pricked in their heart, and said unto Peter and to the rest of the apostles, Men and brethren, what shall we do?
38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.
Consider this passage:
John 3
5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.
6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.
7 Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again.
I had a conversation with a friend who was a seminary student who would later become a Bible college professor in Hebrew. He said that according to the Greek the way it is constructed it indicates that baptism of water and the Spirit refer to the same baptism. But I am not sure about that. I don't know enough Greek yet to confirm this for sure.
I see the Greek
ἐξ ὕδατος καὶ Πνεύματος
ex hudatos kai Pneumatos
Maybe it is because 'ex' is only there once. Matthew 20:23 uses ek/ex for each phrase when it says 'sit on My left or My right'.
He also looked up all the references to the verse he could find in the works known as the 'church fathers' and the ones that commented on it took the verse about being born of water and the Spirit to refer to water baptism. I think there were 18 or so references, and there were speakers/readers of Greek not that far removed in time from when John was written.
You left out the part where he baptized the household of Stephanas and he couldn't remember if he baptized any other. Let's look at Acts 18:8.
And Crispus, the chief ruler of the synagogue, believed on the Lord with all his house; and many of the Corinthians hearing believed, and were baptized.
If Paul didn't baptize them, they were still baptized.
The idea of disembodied spirits going to heaven is inferred from passages like II Corinthians 5, and isn't directly stated or emphasized in scripture. Jesus and the apostles spoke about the resurrection of the dead. But be that as it may, God judges such things.
Let me give you a what if. Your pastor preaches a sermon on salvation and gives an altar call. Two men hear and want to respond. They walk down to the front, but before they can repeat a prayer or confess Jesus as Lord, this atheistic Antifa neoNazi Communist LGBT activist Muslim terrorist guy walks into the building with a shot gun, runs to the front, and shoots these two men in the back of the head and says, "Hahaha! I got them before they got saved. They're goin' to Hell." Would those who men go to Hell?
This is written to readers who are already Christians. It isn't a book about how to become a Christian.
That's a straw man argument. Peter says baptism now saves us... by the resurrection of Jesus Christ.
I quoted Peter and Paul in my last message and you respond like this. Which of these quotes from Peter and Paul that are found in the Bible do you consider to be heretical?
Presidente:
Here is what God said about his people in the old testament Jeremiah 4:22
English Standard Version
“For my people are foolish; they know me not; they are stupid children; they have no understanding. They are ‘wise’—in doing evil! But how to do good they know not.”
Berean Standard Bible
“For My people are fools; they have not known Me. They are foolish children, without understanding. They are skilled in doing evil, but they know not how to do good.”
King James Bible
For my people
is foolish, they have not known me; they
are sottish children, and they have none understanding: they
are wise to do evil, but to do good they have no knowledge.
God says his people are foolish, they have not known me, they are sottish children(sottish means stupid) they have no understanding: they are wise to do evil but to do good they have no knowledge.
You clam to be a child of God does that make you foolish, a little stupid, know how to do evil, but to do you have no knowledge?
Here is what you said to me
Thewatchman said:
Presidente are you saying that it through baptism that we are saved?
Then you said
Peter said 'baptism now saves you...'. Do you think I am a heretic for repeating Peter's teachings?
As I read John 3 Jesus never told Nicodemus he must be baptized in order to enter the kingdom of heaven.
Let's set aside your assertion there for a second, and let me ask you, did Jesus say everything in the Bible to Nicodemus? Are the parts of the New Testament that Jesus did not say to Nicodemus true?
What about Mark 16?
15 And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature.
16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.
16 Then the eleven disciples went away into Galilee, into a mountain where Jesus had appointed them.
Then you moved on to Matthew 28
Here is my reply
From reading your posts here is how I thank you would interoperate
Lets look at the verses you just used. You sent this to me: What about Mark 16?
15And He said to them, “Go into all the world and preach the gospel to every creature.
16Whoever believes and is baptized will be saved, but whoever does not believe will be condemned.
17And these signs will accompany those who believe: In My name they will drive out demons; they will speak in new tongues;
d 18they will pick up snakes with their hands, and if they drink any deadly poison, it will not harm them; they will lay their hands on the sick, and they will be made well.”
Lets look at it 15
And he(the He being Jesus so Jesus is speaking)
said unto them( who are the them the 11 disciples,)
Go into the world and preach the gospel (“the good news of Jesus”I thank that to mean Jesus came He died on the cross, rose from the dead and is seated at the right hand of God and He will return again to gather His people and set up the millennial temple here on earth)
to every creature.(So Jesus is sending out the 11 disciples to preach to gospel to the cats, the dogs, the cow, the horses, snake fish worms: they are creatures right.) Verse 16-18 Whoever believes and is baptized will be saved, but whoever does not believe will be condemned.
17And these signs will accompany those who believe: In My name they will drive out demons; they will speak in new tongues;
18they will pick up snakes with their hands, and if they drink any deadly poison, it will not harm them; they will lay their hands on the sick, and they will be made well.” And all of them (the creatures) are going to become believers, get baptized and do some or all these sings and wonders.
That is what it says right.