Myth: Humans were hunter-gatherers first, farmers later

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Hakawaka

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I would agree on Acts 15:29 and Colossians 2:16, but I dont know why people keep saying Peter's vision has anything to do with food, just cause in the vision it says rise Peter kill and eat? If you look at the explanation of the vision its talking about calling no human unclean, the animals represent gentiles.
Oh and I would also add another proof text for eat as you please (except blood and food sacrificed to idols obviously as the letter to the gentiles says in acts 15):

Mark 7:19 For it doesn’t go into their heart but into their stomach, and then out of the body.” (In saying this, Jesus declared all foods clean.)
 

ewq1938

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1 Corinthians 15:20 and 1 Corinthians 15:45 and 1 Corinthians 15:22 Christ has indeed been raised from the dead, the firstfruits of those who have fallen asleep. The first man Adam became a living being; the last Adam a
life-giving spirit. In Adam all die, so in Christ all will be made alive.

Thank you for the inspiration! I hope you and yours are well .:)

So, if the last Adam does not mean the last human then the first Adam does not mean the first human. Adam was the first of his line, the first Adamite. It's like Jacob being changed to Israel and being the first Israelite.
 

Magenta

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So, if the last Adam does not mean the last human then the first Adam does not mean the first human. Adam
was the first of his line, the first Adamite. It's like Jacob being changed to Israel and being the first Israelite.
I would tend to think of either as prototypes. All are born into the first and need to be reborn into the last.

What you present looks more like a logical fallacy, and does not seem to take context into consideration.
 

SaysWhat

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The system and the so called science tells us that humans were hunter-gatherers before being farmers. Biblically I can see this is not so, Adam and Eve were farming from the get go.

Can someone show me any evidence of hunter-gatherers from the Bible? I know there are many primitive tribes in the earth today that do this, not denying that reality of course.

I just watched a video detailing the "worst time to be a human" and they gave some details on how life was for these humans, what they ate, how they lived in trees etc. And all im thinking is: "how on earth can these people know any of this? This is just a religious belief. There is 0 evidence of what they ate, 0 evidence of how long they lived. This is just absolute guess work" The Bible warns us about science falsely so called, and this is definitely it, its not repeatable of observable, its a religious belief pushed as science.

Anyone who disagrees is free to give me evidence to the contrary.
But mostly, I would like to know if the Bible mentions these hunter-gatherer tribes or peoples anywhere? Maybe somewhere in the books of Kings, Chronicles, who knows. I havent seen it, but I admit my knowledge of the OT is limited.
Well Abel was taught how to raise live stock, probably from Adam his father. Not alot of B12 in plants.
 

Magenta

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Well Abel was taught how to raise live stock, probably from Adam his father. Not alot of B12 in plants.
What conclusion do you draw from this? And, do you assume man needed meat in his diet before God allowed for meat in man's diet?
 

SaysWhat

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What conclusion do you draw from this? And, do you assume man needed meat in his diet before God allowed for meat in man's diet?
Dairy isn't necessarily meat. There's a few nutrients that are essential and mainly come from animals like DHA. Though recently through science There's a synthetic version. ALA in plants can be converted to DHA by the body but it's minimum.
 

Magenta

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Dairy isn't necessarily meat. There's a few nutrients that are essential and mainly come from animals like DHA. Though recently through science There's a synthetic version. ALA in plants can be converted to DHA by the body but it's minimum.
Dairy is not meat at all... but I thought you were making a case for the pre-flood consumption of meat to meet B12 requirements?